Originally posted by anaconda
you right it aint in use anymore but under the old use Spaniard was caucasians just like Scandinavian was labeled as caucasian, Caucasoids are just another name for caucasians, it covers the same geographical areas as the caucasian label did, and in there we find Spain. Now a days though we see a lot of interacial couplings together with immigrants to countries geting children in their new homeland, so to label areas as being just one racial type will be wrong at present time. And in 100 years or maybe more we have probably have to quit the racial identification for good since the world turns more and more into a melting pot. And thats the way it should be we are all human beings and thats all that should count
I have already shown you a reference that shows the possibility that Europe has incorrectly used "Caucasian" and this would explain why you believe what you believe. Making this distinguishment is not racist; this is anthropological.
Originally posted by anaconda
yeah but in a country were groups dress in white sheets and use share ignorance to make a point the above quoting aint really a surprise.
Riiiiiiiight...because all American Anthropologists are members of the KKK and the entire rest of the world doesn't have any racists in it.
Originally posted by anaconda
so does a lot of scandinavian this proves what actually?
It means that more frequently Hispanics than other classifications, Hispanics are mixed with Negroids. Nothing wrong with it being that way...I wanted to make that point because someone know it all might have wanted to make the point.
Yes, I really can't think of any of the big three that are not mixed. In fact, a Caucasoid/Negroid person may mix with a Mongoloid. Like you said, one big melting pot.
However, that will not chance the fact that anthropologists will stop classifying humans because they study peoples of the past as well as the present.
I have already shown you a reference that shows the possibility that Europe has incorrectly used "Caucasian" and this would explain why you believe what you believe. Making this distinguishment is not racist; this is anthropological.and I showed you that the anthropological caucasoid is just another way of saying caucasian they are synonyms quit using one for the other, another name used for caucasoid is europoid.......the latter sound more like some lame currency
Riiiiiiiight...because all American Anthropologists are members of the KKK and the entire rest of the world doesn't have any racists in it.Not all but some are.
Hispanics are mixed with Negroids. Nothing wrong with it being that way...I wanted to make that point because someone know it all might have wanted to make the point.the origin of Hispanic is the tribes that lived on the Iberian peninsula, (many theories claim that we all came from Africa so we all probably are Negroids if you gonna be all technical about it). Point is that even before the Americas was settled by Europeans Hispanics was used towards those who lived on the Iberian peninsula Today it is probably mostly used in referring to Spanish speaking people from the south of the US border, west indies and or Spanish speaking people with descent from the same area mentioned earlier i
However, that will not chance the fact that anthropologists will stop classifying humans because they study peoples of the past as well as the presentagree with you here
Re: As a Black American....
Originally posted by Futureman
I cannot get over the "jokes" from many members of this forum in recent threads. To me skin colour is never an issue, unless others make it one. It seems because one black fool is insulting white members. The white members feel they have the right to be as foolish.Live and let live, judge the individual not the race.
Throwaway humour should be thrown away when it comes to certain issues.
lawl, good joke..but we all know you guys dont know how to use the internet.
Originally posted by anaconda
and I showed you that the anthropological caucasoid is just another way of saying Caucasians they are synonyms quit using one for the other, another name used for caucasoid is europoid.......the latter sound more like some lame currency
And I told that that definition is not completely correct because Caucasoid is a super class and Caucasians is a class inside of Caucasoid...okay wait...that is wrong. Caucasian is a common term that is misused by Americans and Europeans. So is "Hispanic"..."Hispanic" is a common term that anthropologists don't use either and if they do, it is only to put things in layman's terms.
Originally posted by anaconda
Not all but some are.
point is in the States they are good at making up their own view on stuff for no particular reason. Why should a classification like Caucasians differ in the US?
That's an easy question to answer. The terms were used to separate where all the immigrants are coming from. The US stopped using the term "Hispanic" officially in 2003 I believe. However, they were official distinguished terms that were specifically mutually exclusive.
Originally posted by anaconda
Caucasoid refers to people of European origin the nordic(,Scandinavia, Baltic, Germany, France, Britain) the mediterranean( Southern France, Spain, Italy , Egyptians, Semites, Persians, Afghans and some Indians)and the Alpine (extends from the Mediterranean to Asia)
Fact of the matter is...we have determined why I said that Caucasians are not Hispanics. Europeans improperly used the term "Caucasian" and Americans use the word Caucasian to specifically exclude Hispanics. I have already mentioned the US's non-use of "Hispanic".
Here are all of the Caucasoid sub-races.
http://racialreality.110mb.com/subraces.html
Originally posted by anaconda
the origin of Hispanic is the tribes that lived on the Iberian peninsula, (many theories claim that we all came from Africa so we all probably are Negroids if you gonna be all technical about it). Point is that even before the Americas was settled by Europeans Hispanics was used towards those who lived on the Iberian peninsula Today it is probably mostly used in referring to Spanish speaking people from the south of the US border, west indies and or Spanish speaking people with descent from the same area mentioned earlier i
I have already shown what Hispanic means. In the same reference, one could have seen that Latino is another classification to distinguish those in the Americas from the Spaniards.
Originally posted by anaconda
agree with you here
And I agreed fully with the melting pot comment....sooooo, it looks like we still disagree on Hispanic and Caucasian word use.
Maybe we can meet in the middle and say that the US had to use a different common use of the word Caucasian because of immigration. Where do Spaniards fall under the Caucasoid group? I looked on the list and I couldn't really find a place for them under Caucasoid.
And I agreed fully with the melting pot comment....sooooo, it looks like we still disagree on Hispanic and Caucasian word useon hispanic its probably cause due to the original use of the words groups of people have been added to that due to the colonisation of the Americas and so on. The original though, was people in today's Spain and Portugal. The Scandinavian use of the term hispanic translated into English is people of Spanish ancestry 😎
Where do Spaniards fall under the Caucasoid group?I looked on the list and I couldn't really find a place for them under Caucasoidthe Mediterranean group/proper Mediterranean Proper: Short-statured, dolicho- and mesocephalic form found in Spain , Portugal, the western Mediterranean islands, and to some extent in North Africa, southern Italy, and other Mediterranean borderlands. Its purest present-day racial nucleus is without doubt Arabia. Most of the Cappadocian, isolated in the skeletal material, seems to have been absorbed into the western Mediterranean variety after its early Metal Age migration, while that which remained in Asia Minor became assimilated into the Dinaric and Armenoid. It still appears, however, among individuals in its original form, and is particularly common among Oriental Jews.
Re: Re: Re: Re: As a Black American....
Originally posted by Creshosk
slyMore accurate for you to say:
"The i.p. the site sees is an american i.p., it's not my i.p. since I've masked mine, but it is an american i.p. thgat the site sees none the less."
Witchcraft? (scared)The paranoia. Imagine he might be someone "respected" on this forum 😆. How is such a thing possible. He could be anyone on this forum, couldn't he? 😕
Originally posted by Futureman
I studied in England for some time. My i.p. is an American i.p.
Originally posted by Futureman
Yes. 🙂My i.p. is in west New York where I live. It is 64.118.87.103 I have nothing to hide.
Originally posted by Dexter_Morgan
I am not Whirly. I am in Canada. My i.p. is 64.15.157.49🙂
You really need to develop these socks of yours better and keep the idiosyncrasies separate.
Pointing out the region of your ip address only further highlights that it is not what you're claiming it to be. It comes off as an attempt to deliberatly point out a seperation from what your actual ip is.
In fact even knowing the region associated with your ip pretty much indicates quite a bit of thought into your ip. and if you were telling the truth there would be no reason for it.
Originally posted by anaconda
on hispanic its probably cause due to the original use of the words groups of people have been added to that due to the colonisation of the Americas and so on. The original though, was people in today's Spain and Portugal. The Scandinavian use of the term hispanic translated into English is people of Spanish ancestry 😎
I agree with you there. Sounds correct to me. 🙂
Originally posted by anaconda
the Mediterranean group/proper Mediterranean Proper: Short-statured, dolicho- and mesocephalic form found in Spain , Portugal, the western Mediterranean islands, and to some extent in North Africa, southern Italy, and other Mediterranean borderlands. Its purest present-day racial nucleus is without doubt Arabia. Most of the Cappadocian, isolated in the skeletal material, seems to have been absorbed into the western Mediterranean variety after its early Metal Age migration, while that which remained in Asia Minor became assimilated into the Dinaric and Armenoid. It still appears, however, among individuals in its original form, and is particularly common among Oriental Jews.
But look at the pattern of how the author introduces each subset. He tells us where they originally came from and then tells us where they are today. The group you listed came from Spain, Portugal, the western Mediterranean Islands, etc. Then he says "its purest present-day racial nucleus is without doubt Arabia." That tells me that, though this people originated in that area, they migrated and became the people of the Arabias...not Spain or the surrounding areas he listed. So this isn't the correct people for Spain/Portugal. So which groups of Caucasoids are the ancestors of Spain?
I couldn't find it on the list.
Is it possible that I was wrong the whole time and Hispanics aren't Caucasoids at all and they belong to one of the other groups? Surely not because this is an anthropological classification and the Spanish/Portuguese people have similar skull structure to just about every other Caucasoid people but not Mongoloid or Negroid.
Wait..
Isn't all of this anthropological nomenclature antiquated?
Originally posted by Futureman
Yes. 🙂My i.p. is in west New York where I live. It is 64.118.87.103 I have nothing to hide.
According to http://www.ip-adress.com its in California. 🙂
IP address [?]: 64.118.87.103
IP address country: flag United States
IP address state: California
IP address city: Oakhurst