The thing about Superman, is what Superman are you going to get? The Superman that stands for Truth and Justice? Or the Superman that realized he has to kill to save the world. (Doomsday.. unfortunately, it was too late when he realized he had to go against beliefs and kill him.)
Superman always pussy-foots around his powers and uses as much necessary just to win the battle and send the opponent home in shambles. I think if Superman lets loose at all costs, he is unbeatable. He is the #1 superhero for a reason.
Thor obviously has magical powers that can give Superman FITs. Thor might be versatile, but that's the whole origin of Superman's character. Superman is constantly thinking, and with his Super intelligence with an attitude of a time to kill, Supes takes him down.
The Hulk is just too damn dumb to have any other power other than power, power, strength, and more power. He has one way to do things. Superman out smarts the Hulk in every sense of the word and takes care of him when the time is right. Yes, Bruce Banner is one of the best minds in the business, but unfortuantly, Bruce Banner is NOT the Hulk and Vise Versa.
SS would be a great fight. I can see either way swaying like a scale, but the debate can go either way when comparing both characters that benefit from radiation, or the sun itself. SS manipulates his strength from sources such as radiation, energy and things like that. Superman is completely powered by the yellow sun, and continues to grow stronger and stronger each day that he's on Earth.
In All Star Superman, Superman actually tried to save a shuttle (that Lex Luthor orchestrated) that was gathering info from the Sun. Superman took in so much Sun Radiation to save the shuttle, that his cells actually burst from an overload exposure of the suns radiation.
I don't think it matters who beat who, and who struggled against who in the world of comics. Comic book characters are CONSTANTLY changing, and you can't just say he would win over he/she because he/she beat him or her. Anyone can beat anyone, but it just so happens to be that Superman is pretty much the king of all hero's for a reason.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Current Thor now would own Supes.
From what I read, Jor-El owns him as well.
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
From what I read, Jor-El owns him as well.
he likes to get "owned" quite a bit. i wonder if he uses a "safe" word?
Originally posted by jedi90
he likes to get "owned" quite a bit. i wonder if he uses a "safe" word?
On a another note, Supes is good but cmon man, He aint stronger that every super hero.
across Marvel and DC supes would be like %80 against the comic universe.
Silver Surfer, Thanos and Darkseid for instance would evaporate him easily.
Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
On a another note, Supes is good but cmon man, He aint stronger that every super hero.across Marvel and DC supes would be like %80 against the comic universe.
Silver Surfer, Thanos and Darkseid for instance would evaporate him easily.
i give him 60%. superman is not a great fighter, just popular. he can get pummeled by someone who is just good with their fist (i.e. lobo, doomsday) . he may have versatile powers but he sure doesn't know how to be versatile with them.
Originally posted by jedi90
i give him 60%. superman is not a great fighter, just popular. he can get pummeled by someone who is just good with their fist (i.e. lobo, doomsday) . he may have versatile powers but he sure doesn't know how to be versatile with them.
Look man, Super human powers I say again....super HUMAN powers, vs a cosmic entity is a loss cause. I got love for Supes with truth justice and all that but in a cosmic fight he'll get that ass whipped.
Originally posted by jedi90
i give him 60%. superman is not a great fighter, just popular. he can get pummeled by someone who is just good with their fist (i.e. lobo, doomsday) . he may have versatile powers but he sure doesn't know how to be versatile with them.
wow. you don't read the comics, do you?
the man trains with wonder woman and batman regularly. he recently beat another kryptonian using pressure points.
he CAN fight. well.
Originally posted by jedi90
i give him 60%. superman is not a great fighter, just popular. he can get pummeled by someone who is just good with their fist (i.e. lobo, doomsday) . he may have versatile powers but he sure doesn't know how to be versatile with them.
Originally posted by Raoul
wow. you don't read the comics, do you?the man trains with wonder woman and batman regularly. he recently beat another kryptonian using pressure points.
he CAN fight. well.
i read them and with variations too. you on the other hand sound like someone who can't bring himself to read anything else.
thanks for validating my point, superman has to get fighting lessons from a woman and a human to learn to fight effectively.
i said he is not a "VERSATILE" fighter meaning on a regular his fights consist of "super punches", some flight, and him using his durability to withstand the tough blows. for a man with such an array of powers most of his battles are just super fist fights, like the fight to death he had with doomsday. 🙄
Originally posted by The ScribeSuperman was first, so how can a copy beat the original?
The pre-crisis Superman needs to be brought back. 😉
actually superman was not the first. he was a copy/combination of other popular pulp heroes at the time.
pre-crisis superman sucked. if you enjoy a juvenile fantasy of a hero who can never lose and develops new powers for every situation then maybe he is for you.
Originally posted by jedi90
i read them and with variations too. you on the other hand sound like someone who can't bring himself to read anything else.thanks for validating my point, superman has to get fighting lessons from a woman and a human to learn to fight effectively.
i said he is not a "VERSATILE" fighter meaning on a regular his fights consist of "super punches", some flight, and him using his durability to withstand the tough blows. for a man with such an array of powers most of his battles are just super fist fights, like the fight to death he had with doomsday. 🙄
His fights also consist of tossing someone across the city and gift wrapping the bad guy in a metal rod.
Versatility, pressure points ect is NOT going to win a fight against a superior being.
Superior and super are two different things gentlemen.
Yes Supes can whip every earthling easily but when he has to face competition 2 things happens: he loses the fight and then in the next "version" of the issue he beats the villian with no apparent reason. I call it readers choice.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Actually, Superman is the most versatile character when it comes to how little amount of powers he has. He is very creative.
lol, okay. i can understand your logic of him having "little amount of powers" since the only powers he mainly uses in fights is his strength and flight. yes very creative indeed.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Actually, Superman is the most versatile character when it comes to how little amount of powers he has. He is very creative.
Coming from a Green Lantern fan I'm Incredulous at that statement.
Resourceful is what I'd call Supes but versatile no.
A good definition of versatile is Spider man but to stay on subject,
Supes being resourceful is what saves the day in most his big fights.
As you see, Punches and kicks mostly works for the Hulk but being a "smart" brawler aint Super Mans game.
I have no favorites in the comic world as they all bring something to the table but some of you sound more like possessed groupies than anything.
Originally posted by jedi90
i read them and with variations too. you on the other hand sound like someone who can't bring himself to read anything else.thanks for validating my point, superman has to get fighting lessons from a woman and a human to learn to fight effectively.
i said he is not a "VERSATILE" fighter meaning on a regular his fights consist of "super punches", some flight, and him using his durability to withstand the tough blows. for a man with such an array of powers most of his battles are just super fist fights, like the fight to death he had with doomsday. 🙄
lulz.
firstly, i read plenty.
secondly, wonder woman and batman are considered two of the finest fighters in dc. you'd know that if you read about them.
nice of you to refer to wonder woman as simply "a woman" and not what she is; a warrior, born and bred. do i detect some sexism?
he IS a versatile fighter, which is what you're missing. he just only uses such versatility when it's required, which he has done on many occasions.
Originally posted by jedi90
actually superman was not the first. he was a copy/combination of other popular pulp heroes at the time.
I've never heard that before.
Superman was the first Superhero.
pre-crisis superman sucked. if you enjoy a juvenile fantasy of a hero who can never lose and develops new powers for every situation then maybe he is for you.
He did? People hate that Superman can beat their favorite hero or villains. That's the reason behind the hate.
That's just sad.