Superman can defeat them all... Thor, Hulk, Gladiator, Hyperion, etc.

Originally posted by jedi90
if you say so.

wrong, go read kingdom come again. doesn't matter cause thor can shot magical bolts from his hammer but amazingly superman could with stand it............all of a sudden.

no it wouldn't. the point was that superman is very weak against magic and magical weapons. one blow K.O. him. superman only disarmed him in their next meeting. at that point (an issue later) superman tried to excuse his earlier loss to being caught off guard or from being surprised even though they fought face to face charging at each other in the first fight. kinda of like with lobo. 😕

i read your post, if you meant 100,000, you typoed... i quoted your post TWICE. if you can't be bothered to re-read it, tis not my fault...

lulz. MAGICAL lightning powered by the wizard shazam. and kingdom come isn't even the same superman/billy...

superman doesn't use excuses, as it would go against the whole 'honesty' thing...

Originally posted by jedi90
no it wouldn't. the point was that superman is very weak against magic and magical weapons. one blow K.O. him. superman only disarmed him in their next meeting. at that point (an issue later) superman tried to excuse his earlier loss to being caught off guard or from being surprised even though they fought face to face charging at each other in the first fight. kinda of like with lobo. 😕

Supes was caught off guard because he had the "wasp-knockoff" inside his head which distracted him.

Viking did knock him out, but he also put everything he had into a two-handed blow while using a weapon. If Viking was even close to Supes in strength (which he was) that would be enough for a KO, magic or no magic.

Originally posted by jedi90
thor is a magical god, who controls lighting. two things that superman is weak against. thor hit superman with his magic hammer and it barely phased him lol.

In regards to the lightning thing. Remember that Shazam's thunderbolts are not actually lightning; Shazam has explained that they are magic spells disguised as lightning. That's way different than summoning a natural lighting bolt.

Thor's lightning is not magical. He can control the weather psionically, much like he did when he fought Hercules without his hammer. The hammer gives him greater control, but it's still regular lightning.

Even if Hulk does get stonger with anger - his base level strength is nowhere near anything Superman's is. Supes could K.O. him before he even knows the fights begun.

Eg. Titannus knocked Hulk out in 3 blows (which proves it is possible) - imagine what Superman could do.

Let's look at this logically.

Superman. Super and man.

Super. He's super, none of the characters mentioned in the first post has "super" in their name, thusly they're not "super".

Man, Superman's obviously a man. none of the characters mentioned in the first post have "man" in their names. Thusly, they're not men, they have to be annoying little girls (I ****ing hate you Dakota Fanning! screaming sonuva *****) Krhm..

Conclusion: Super and man is more than everything. I rest my case.

Originally posted by jedi90
oh, almost forgot. doomday is not faster than hulk. hulk is actually faster and stronger than doomday. plus superman died too when they first fought, hardly a victory in his favor.

doomsday took on the JL with one arm tied behind his back. honestly i think doomsday actually died exhaustion rather than that "one" two handed punch superman managed to get in.

Doomsday could keep up with superman in battle hulk is no where the speed as doomsday.

Originally posted by jedi90
sure....

"the force of attraction between matter and anti-matter is irresistable. This feat is roughly equivilant to lifting the mass of a neutron star. doomsday can't do this and neither can superman"

Hulk has never demonstrated he could take on as many powerhouses as doomsday could to my knowledge. And two hulk is not beating superman unless the fight last's many hours and superman is to smart to alow that. And three i see nothing in that scan proving that hulk is faster then doomsday or supes. That scan was written as a strength feat for hulk.

Originally posted by jedi90
nope, that's just one example of many. doomsday is the next best example of what would really happen if superman fought the hulk.

ROFL. please take you comments to the hulk respect thread you are crazy.

Originally posted by jedi90
.........................yesssss

newp.

Originally posted by jedi90
here after hullk tosses superman into space, superman admits hulk is the strongest he has "EVER" faced. 1999 crossover.

How many times has superman ever said hey...............that was the toughest opponent i have ever fought.

Its in his character to say things like that. Thor in all reality would be a better fight for supes.

Originally posted by jedi90
sure....

"the force of attraction between matter and anti-matter is irresistable. This feat is roughly equivilant to lifting the mass of a neutron star. doomsday can't do this and neither can superman"

I hate how hulk fans use this one. There is no such thing as matter/anti matter attraction. Individual particles will be attracted to their anti particle because they have opposite charge. An anti atom won't be attacted to its normal equivalent as they would both have a neutral charge.

The comic scan only says Hulk has to keep the two anti matter orbs apart and that spider-man found it impressive.

superman drops all of them

Hulk pimpslap Sups in the stratosphere

Naw hulk couldnt even hit supes, supes would grabb each punch and just toss or flip him. thats if he doesnt dodge

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
I hate how hulk fans use this one. There is no such thing as matter/anti matter attraction. Individual particles will be attracted to their anti particle because they have opposite charge. An anti atom won't be attacted to its normal equivalent as they would both have a neutral charge.

The comic scan only says Hulk has to keep the two anti matter orbs apart and that spider-man found it impressive.

Plus, the fact that Superman has held and contained a black hole in his hand already tops this feat.

Originally posted by zeel
superman on his best day could not even touch galactus. supes can take any of the above you folks mentioned. But on the other hand they can all take supes to. there are many toons in marvel that can win a battle with supes. That goes for DC to.

Probably the most reasonable answer here.

Superman can fight any of the above and win but the same goes for them.

Gladiator if confident enough etc. shit stomps Superman though.

Collapsing Stars with his bare hands, containing Supernova's etc. is beyond Superman.

He was intended to be the Pre-Crisis Clark of Marvel.

Although he is very inconsistent. He has had some serious trouble with Colossus alone etc. They blame it on his confidence but that's ****ing stupid seeing as how he faced Tyrant and didn't lose confidence.

Either way, most of the time either of those beings would fight Superman to a stand still or it could be a toss up.

I personally give Superman the win over Hulk. He should defeat him.

Superman would win in a hand to hand fight with Thor but in an all out fight, unless he uses abilities like T-Vo, speed blitzes Thor at speeds faster than thought etc. he loses.

Thor is to versatile and powerful for Superman to match him head on in a fight of power and win.

Against Gladiator, it depends what level of confidence he has but that's just an excuse writers created to justify his losses. His core power set is if he believes he can, he therefore will, but majority of the time, writers would make this a stalemate.

This better be King Hyperion. Any other incarnation should be steam rolled by Superman.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Probably the most reasonable answer here.

Superman can fight any of the above and win but the same goes for them.

Gladiator if confident enough etc. shit stomps Superman though.

Collapsing Stars with his bare hands, containing Supernova's etc. is beyond Superman.

He was intended to be the Pre-Crisis Clark of Marvel.

Although he is very inconsistent. He has had some serious trouble with Colossus alone etc. They blame it on his confidence but that's ****ing stupid seeing as how he faced Tyrant and didn't lose confidence.

Either way, most of the time either of those beings would fight Superman to a stand still or it could be a toss up.

I personally give Superman the win over Hulk. He should defeat him.

Superman would win in a hand to hand fight with Thor but in an all out fight, unless he uses abilities like T-Vo, speed blitzes Thor at speeds faster than thought etc. he loses.

Thor is to versatile and powerful for Superman to match him head on in a fight of power and win.

Against Gladiator, it depends what level of confidence he has but that's just an excuse writers created to justify his losses. His core power set is if he believes he can, he therefore will, but majority of the time, writers would make this a stalemate.

This better be King Hyperion. Any other incarnation should be steam rolled by Superman.

How does Superman beat Galactus?

Also Thor has no problem with keeping up with speed.

He could beat Galactus if Galactus was starving and hadn't eaten in months

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How does Superman beat Galactus?

Gladiators confidence is going to drop after the first trade of attacks.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Probably the most reasonable answer here.

Superman can fight any of the above and win but the same goes for them.

Gladiator if confident enough etc. shit stomps Superman though.

Collapsing Stars with his bare hands, containing Supernova's etc. is beyond Superman.

He was intended to be the Pre-Crisis Clark of Marvel.

Although he is very inconsistent. He has had some serious trouble with Colossus alone etc. They blame it on his confidence but that's ****ing stupid seeing as how he faced Tyrant and didn't lose confidence.

Either way, most of the time either of those beings would fight Superman to a stand still or it could be a toss up.

I personally give Superman the win over Hulk. He should defeat him.

Superman would win in a hand to hand fight with Thor but in an all out fight, unless he uses abilities like T-Vo, speed blitzes Thor at speeds faster than thought etc. he loses.

Thor is to versatile and powerful for Superman to match him head on in a fight of power and win.

Against Gladiator, it depends what level of confidence he has but that's just an excuse writers created to justify his losses. His core power set is if he believes he can, he therefore will, but majority of the time, writers would make this a stalemate.

This better be King Hyperion. Any other incarnation should be steam rolled by Superman.