Superman can defeat them all... Thor, Hulk, Gladiator, Hyperion, etc.

Started by jalek moye35 pages

Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
LOL i know that cartoon aint the same, I was using it as an example of "writers" writing the story.

You say Hulk has never shown super human abilities? LOL

I wont even entertain that notion.


not on supermans level

superman is one of the fastest, strongest, and durable super humans in any company

hulk has shown nothing on his level besides regen

Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
LOL i know that cartoon aint the same, I was using it as an example of "writers" writing the story.

You say Hulk has never shown super human abilities? LOL

I wont even entertain that notion.

No one has stated that. Let me give you examples of superhuman abilities.

Flight
Energy projection/manipulation
super strength
transmutation

those are superhuman abilities and Hulk has one of those, but he still isn't above Superman. Superhuman abilities are basically things that humans can't do

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Hulk remembers a lot of what he does. Are you saying that Hulk is an undefeatable character that would crush everyone but he loses due to writing purposes?

Bad example since that is an alternate Thor and Hulk and is in no way canon to the characters we are debating.


the savage hulk is alot of times out smarted by his opponents. so far folks in this thread have referred to pre crisis supes and supermanprime. if you want to get technical superman was rebooted recently (...again) with "birthright".

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Hulk remembers a lot of what he does. Are you saying that Hulk is an undefeatable character that would crush everyone but he loses due to writing purposes?

Bad example since that is an alternate Thor and Hulk and is in no way canon to the characters we are debating.

The writers could make him "ALMOST" unbeatable.

I say again on the cartoon, I no its not accurate to the real thing, I just used an example of the writers writing their story as they wanted to.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No one has stated that. Let me give you examples of superhuman abilities.

Flight
Energy projection/manipulation
super strength
transmutation

those are superhuman abilities and Hulk has one of those, but he still isn't above Superman. Superhuman abilities are basically things that humans can't do


hulk has way more abilities than that. he does have great durability and regeneration. he can leap across states. superhuman stamina and endurance, and his most famous power.....his strength.

Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
The writers could make him "ALMOST" unbeatable.

I say again on the cartoon, I no its not accurate to the real thing, I just used an example of the writers writing their story as they wanted to.


show me one thing that hulk has done that superman can't

Originally posted by jedi90
the savage hulk is alot of times out smarted by his opponents. so far folks in this thread have referred to pre crisis supes and supermanprime. if you want to get technical superman was rebooted recently (...again) with "birthright".

Most of the stuff that has been said has been about current Superman. Claiming they outsmarted him isn't really saying much. The first time him and Cain fought there was no tricks, he basically outlasted and outfought him due to greater strength and stamina. Second time, he just bullrushed him and punched him in the face faster than he could heal. He has recently outfought WWH.

Originally posted by jedi90
the savage hulk is alot of times out smarted by his opponents. so far folks in this thread have referred to pre crisis supes and supermanprime. if you want to get technical superman was rebooted recently (...again) with "birthright".

superman is way stronger then he was in his reboot

he's been upgraded alot

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No one has stated that. Let me give you examples of superhuman abilities.

Flight
Energy projection/manipulation
super strength
transmutation

those are superhuman abilities and Hulk has one of those, but he still isn't above Superman. Superhuman abilities are basically things that humans can't do

WRONG !!!

Super Strength (check)
Super leaping (check)
Superior resistance (check)

The list goes on man, you have no dollar in that debate.

Originally posted by jedi90
hulk has way more abilities than that. he does have great durability and regeneration. he can leap across states. superhuman stamina and endurance, and his most famous power.....his strength.

Didn't say he didn't, you miss the point. Everyone and their grandma has superhuman durability, strength and stamina. Clark could leap just as far.

Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
WRONG !!!

Super Strength (check)
Super leaping (check)
Superior resistance (check)

The list goes on man, you have no dollar in that debate.

Yes those are superhuman abilities as well, I suppose you missed the point. I named abilities even Superman didn't have yet those abilities would make someone superhuman. Let's be honest, leaping isn't going to really help in this fight. What superior resistance does Hulk have? Clark survived a double black hole.

Originally posted by jalek moye
not on supermans level

superman is one of the fastest, strongest, and durable super humans in any company

hulk has shown nothing on his level besides regen

no he is not. first superman is not human. there are plenty of DC and marvel characters that can break superman's jaw to pieces....like silver surfer.

hulk's invulnerability goes beyond regen. go do some research junior.

Originally posted by jedi90
no he is not. first superman is not human. there are plenty of DC and marvel characters that can break superman's jaw to pieces....like silver surfer.

hulk's invulnerability goes beyond regen. go do some research junior.

No one said he was human, he's superhuman. Silver Surfer can't physically beat Superman.

Hulk is in no way invulnerable and I dare you to prove so. Prove he is invulnerable and I will concede and forever address you as master across KMC.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Yes those are superhuman abilities as well, I suppose you missed the point. I named abilities even Superman didn't have yet those abilities would make someone superhuman. Let's be honest, leaping isn't going to really help in this fight. What superior resistance does Hulk have? Clark survived a double black hole.

leaping helped doomsday stomp superman to the ground plenty in DOS.

Originally posted by jedi90
no he is not. first superman is not human. there are plenty of DC and marvel characters that can break superman's jaw to pieces....like silver surfer.

hulk's invulnerability goes beyond regen. go do some research junior.


no if they fought hand to hand superman would crush him

and no there arn't

superman is at the upper limits other people can beat him but he can beat many more

Originally posted by jedi90
leaping helped doomsday stomp superman to the ground plenty in DOS.

doomsday is faster then hulk and stronger then most forms

Originally posted by jedi90
leaping helped doomsday stomp superman to the ground plenty in DOS.

A weaker Clark yes.

how about we all post proof of our points

you guys post stuff and i'll do the same for superman

Originally posted by jalek moye
show me one thing that hulk has done that superman can't

Superman can do it all but stand toe to toe with an increasingly angered Hulk.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No one said he was human, he's superhuman. Silver Surfer can't physically beat Superman.

Hulk is in no way invulnerable and I dare you to prove so. Prove he is invulnerable and I will concede and forever address you as master across KMC.

define invulnerable and i will. silver surfer wouldn't have to touch superman. SS could easily suck the solar energy right out of him.