Sephiroth vs Samus Aran

Samus is still human, Sephiroth will end the fight in no time at all, yes Sephiroth has TK, why is that so hard to understand? Hes shown using it in FFVII and in AC, or perhaps he was just psychic and knew the building was going to fall somehow, and held out his arms and looked up to make it seem like hes using his TK? Yeah no thats just farfetched, and dont say they sliced up the top of the building, because they didnt touch the top of the building. Its funny because you dont even say how Samus could beat Sephiroth.

Why would AC Sephiroth use spells, hes toying around..

You seem to be using a poor logic that if u dont see it, means the character is incapable of doing it, sometimes you just have to use ur common sense, because you have never seen Sephiroth chop a piece of bread, then that means hes incapable of that then? Or that because you've never seen Tifa drink water, that means shes immune to thirst. Thats how poor ur logic is.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Samus is still human, Sephiroth will end the fight in no time at all, yes Sephiroth has TK, why is that so hard to understand? Hes shown using it in FFVII and in AC, or perhaps he was just psychic and knew the building was going to fall somehow, and held out his arms and looked up to make it seem like hes using his TK? Yeah no thats just farfetched, and dont say they sliced up the top of the building, because they didnt touch the top of the building. Its funny because you dont even say how Samus could beat Sephiroth.

Why would AC Sephiroth use spells, hes toying around..

You seem to be using a poor logic that if u dont see it, means the character is incapable of doing it, sometimes you just have to use ur common sense, because you have never seen Sephiroth chop a piece of bread, then that means hes incapable of that then? Or that because you've never seen Tifa drink water, that means shes immune to thirst. Thats how poor ur logic is.

Why wouldn't Sephiroth use his TK while fighting Genesis? Or Cloud? Or Cloud's entire party? You know when he was Safer Sephiroth. Why didn't Sephiroth use this TK when he went for Cloud that last time in FF7? Heck that time when Sephiroth was using TK on the entire party and yet they still were able to fight; whoo I can see why Samus would be threatened by that.

^ You can say that to just about any character, why didnt Cloud use Omnislash against bahamut? Why didnt superman use frostbreath against darkseid? Why didnt Jiraiya use the frog sage against orochimaru? We dont know because we arent the character, so just because they didn't use it at the time, it means they cannot do it? If theyve displayed they can do it, then it usually means they can do it, but he probably didn't use anything crazy against Genesis because they were basically just sparring, and he was a regular SOLDIER back then, not a crazy maniac.

First of all, your talking about FFVII Sephiroth not AC Sephiroth, and if you're going by gameplay, then once again, Sephiroth will be fighting someone who fights little creatures and has no list of feats whatsoever; whoo i can see why Sephiroth would be threatened by that

Originally posted by Terryc250
^ You can say that to just about any character, why didnt Cloud use Omnislash against bahamut? Why didnt superman use frostbreath against darkseid? Why didnt Jiraiya use the frog sage against orochimaru? We dont know because we arent the character, so just because they didn't use it at the time, it means they cannot do it? If theyve displayed they can do it, then it usually means they can do it, but he probably didn't use anything crazy against Genesis because they were basically just sparring, and he was a regular SOLDIER back then, not a crazy maniac.

First of all, your talking about FFVII Sephiroth not AC Sephiroth, and if you're going by gameplay, then once again, Sephiroth will be fighting someone who fights little creatures and has no list of feats whatsoever; whoo i can see why Sephiroth would be threatened by that

No lists of feats huh? Let's see going with just the Prime trilogy since I'm guessing that's what version of Samus we are using I'll go ahead and name off some feats since you clearly never even picked up anything with Metroid on it:

Battle against Metroid Prime part 1 , part 2 , part 3 , and part 4 .

Battle against Emperor Ing part 1 and part 2

Battle against Dark Samus from Metroid Prime 2 and from Metroid Prime 3 as well Corrupted Aurora Unit 313 and part 2 .

Battle against Meta-Ridley from Metroid Prime and from Metroid Prime 3 as well as Omega-Ridley .

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Okay...one thing I must say, just because a weaker character can do sumthin, doesn't mean Seph can do the things said weaker character can.

Actually... It does mean that. You have to remember that everything a character can do in FFVII, is because of the Lifestream. With exception of Jenova, everything is connected to it. So if Sephiroth can controll it, and is stated as being equal to the goddess of the Lifestream/planet, then he can do anything the Lifestream(and the other characters) can.

Sephiroth and Minerva controlls the source of... Everything in FFVII.

Originally posted by SHM
Actually... It does mean that. You have to remember that everything a character can do in FFVII, is because of the Lifestream. With exception of Jenova, [B]everything is connected to it. So if Sephiroth can controll it, and is stated as being equal to the goddess of the Lifestream/planet, then he can do anything the Lifestream(and the other characters) can. [/B]

That statement right there just proves that you are nothing more then a Sephiroth fanboy. So are you saying Sephiroth can do Cid's Limit Breaks such as Highwind? He can do Barret's Limit Breaks such as Big Shot? Tifa's Limit Breaks such as Dolphin Kick? Red XIII's Limit Break such as Howling Moon?

Vincent's Limit Break such as Chaos? Cait Sith's Limit Break such as Dice Roll? Yuffie's Limit Breaks such as All Creation? Aerith's Limit Break such as Great Gospel? Cloud's Limit Break such as Finishing Blow?

Congrats you have shown us all that you are an ultimate fanboy who is so obessed with Sephiroth that he cannot accpet the fact that Cloud defeated him (twice now) and that Chaos Vincent managed to do something that Sephiroth can't do and thus you have to try come up with some big idea that would explain that Sephiroth would be able to do it. He'll let me explain this to you:

Just because Vincent or any other character ever can do something doesn't mean Sephiroth can do it. Sephiroth is not omnipotent or else he would have easily countered Cloud's omnislash with little ease.

I have to co-sign the Sephiroth overration, but I still think he does take this fight (though not easily, if that pleases some people).

So floating characters that can still move, and still attempt attacks is psychokinesis? If that's what you believe, that's some extremely weak level psychokinesis. Couldn't even keep them "immobilized"

And then there's the fact that he's never used it on an opponent(Cloud, Genesis/Angel, Cloud and.co), but magically, this questionable ability is being used on Samus.

I suppose since I never seen Samus get sliced through by a sword, that she's not going to here.

Oh wait...

How did I know you would do this? Good job being proven wrong and that Sephiroth does have TK, and then instead of admitting being wrong trying to downplay it.

In any case he let the party go. He was amused by the fact that these lesser beings were trying to fight him, so he let them go and allowed them to attack, big mistake on his part. And if you'll notice, before he lets them go, the party members said they couldn't control their bodies, meaning Sephiroth had them completely in his grasp.

That statement right there just proves that you are nothing more then a Sephiroth fanboy. So are you saying Sephiroth can do Cid's Limit Breaks such as Highwind? He can do Barret's Limit Breaks such as Big Shot? Tifa's Limit Breaks such as Dolphin Kick? Red XIII's Limit Break such as Howling Moon?

Vincent's Limit Break such as Chaos? Cait Sith's Limit Break such as Dice Roll? Yuffie's Limit Breaks such as All Creation? Aerith's Limit Break such as Great Gospel? Cloud's Limit Break such as Finishing Blow?

Congrats you have shown us all that you are an ultimate fanboy who is so obessed with Sephiroth that he cannot accpet the fact that Cloud defeated him (twice now) and that Chaos Vincent managed to do something that Sephiroth can't do and thus you have to try come up with some big idea that would explain that Sephiroth would be able to do it. He'll let me explain this to you:

Just because Vincent or any other character ever can do something doesn't mean Sephiroth can do it. Sephiroth is not omnipotent or else he would have easily countered Cloud's omnislash with little ease.

You really suck at reading comprehension ESB. He never said Sephiroth could do everyone's limit breaks, he said Sephiroth can control the very thing that powers everyone's limit breaks, and that means he is far superior to everyone else in FF VII and on a godlike level. Samus fanboys sure don't know how to read.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
In any case he let the party go. He was amused by the fact that these lesser beings were trying to fight him, so he let them go and allowed them to attack, big mistake on his part. And if you'll notice, before he lets them go, [b]the party members said they couldn't control their bodies, meaning Sephiroth had them completely in his grasp. [/B]

Can you offer proof on your statement that Sephiroth just let them go?

Sephiroth having a superiority complex is confirmation of that statement. 313

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
You really suck at reading comprehension ESB. He never said Sephiroth could do everyone's limit breaks, he said Sephiroth can control the very thing that powers everyone's limit breaks, and that means he is far superior to everyone else in FF VII and on a godlike level. Samus fanboys sure don't know how to read.

Whoa; you amuse me almost as much as SHM. "You really suck as reading blah blah blah" ha here's what he said:

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Okay...one thing I must say, just because a weaker character can do sumthin, doesn't mean Seph can do the things said weaker character can.

Originally posted by SHM
Actually... It does mean that. You have to remember that everything a character can do in FFVII, is because of the Lifestream. With exception of Jenova, [B]everything is connected to it. So if Sephiroth can controll it, and is stated as being equal to the goddess of the Lifestream/planet, then he can do anything the Lifestream(and the other characters) can.

Sephiroth and Minerva controlls the source of... Everything in FFVII. [/B]

Comment Because a weaker character can do something, doesn't mean Sephiroth can do the things said weaker character can.

Response: Actually... It does mean that.

Enough said and there is NOTHING YOU CAN SAY THAT CAN DISPROVE THIS BECAUSE IT IS AS CLEAR AS DAY

Damn Sonic fanboys!

j/k

I don't think it's far-fetched to say that Sephiroth can do what the others can, but yeah there's no confirmation he can do everything all characters can do, but he does possess the (negative) lifestream which I think is the lifestream's equivalent.

Looks to me like he's saying Sephiroth is more powerful and on a god like level because he controls the thing that allows the others to do their special attacks. Not saying that he can do all their attacks, but that he has power greater than all their attacks, he's equating power levels, not the actual moves. ou still do suck at reading silly, that's why you can't comprehend anything people smarter than you say.

Also, calmdown, no need to get angry and use the dread all caps against me, lol. Silly Samus fanboy, can't control their tempers because they can't beat characters like Sephiroth.

Er....remember no bickering or hostility.

I would just like to see Sephiroth fighting seriously and not just ****ing around. Just once...to either see what he can really do when going all out...or to see how quickly he decimates his opponents. Perhaps Advent Children Complete will make that a reality.

Someone asked, and I paraphrase, "What will Sephiroth do to Samus with Telekinesis?" And I asnwer...lots and lots of crap. Seriously...I don't understand why telekinesis is getting underestimated now...wait...its because of Sephiroth.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Looks to me like he's saying Sephiroth is more powerful and on a god like level because he controls the thing that allows the others to do their special attacks. Not saying that he can do all their attacks, but that he has power greater than all their attacks, he's equating power levels, not the actual moves. ou still do suck at reading silly, that's why you can't comprehend anything people smarter than you say.

Also, calmdown, no need to get angry and use the dread all caps against me, lol. Silly Samus fanboy, can't control their tempers because they can't beat characters like Sephiroth.

You still seem to have a difficulty understanding:

Comment Because a weaker character can do something, doesn't mean Sephiroth can do the things said weaker character can.

Response: Actually... It does mean that.

Seriously dude; it's right there as plan as daylight. It's impossible not to understand; SHM basically said whatever any character can do Sephiroth can do it. Or does It does mean that. You have to remember that everything a character can do in FFVII, is because of the Lifestream. and then he can do anything the Lifestream(and the other characters) can. mean something different in fanboyism?

I had something in my mind, but it came completelly diferent when I wrote it. This is exactly what I meant:

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Sephiroth can control the very thing that powers everyone's limit breaks, and that means he is far superior to everyone else in FF VII and on a godlike level.

Thanks fascist for explaining it better than me.

Sorry to everyone else who didn't understand what I was trying to say. My bad.

Originally posted by SHM
I had something in my mind, but it came completelly diferent when I wrote it. This is exactly what I meant:

Thanks fascist for explaining it better than me.

Sorry to everyone else.

See SHM knew what he wrote that he basically said Sephiroth could do everything a character was; admitted he was wrong and corrected said statement.

Originally posted by Thiru
Ac sephiroth had no spells? Why are you assuming this? Because he doesn't demonstrate any spells?

"Zomg he didnt demonstrate any spells means he has no spells" = horrible logic

In whatever world you live in, that's usually how it works in ours. Speculation can only take you so far.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Why wouldn't Sephiroth use his TK while fighting Genesis? Or Cloud? Or Cloud's entire party? You know when he was Safer Sephiroth. Why didn't Sephiroth use this TK when he went for Cloud that last time in FF7? Heck that time when Sephiroth was using TK on the entire party and yet they still were able to fight; whoo I can see why Samus would be threatened by that.

Exactly my point. Telekinesis just doesn't disappear during important times. If he really had it, he'd have used it to stop Cloud when he went omnislashurn mode.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I would just like to see Sephiroth fighting seriously and not just ****ing around. Just once...to either see what he can really do when going all out...or to see how quickly he decimates his opponents. Perhaps Advent Children Complete will make that a reality.

Until then, it's pretty much fanfiction. And fanfiction isn't canon.

Someone asked, and I paraphrase, "What will Sephiroth do to Samus with Telekinesis?" And I asnwer...lots and lots of crap. Seriously...I don't understand why telekinesis is getting underestimated now...wait...its because of Sephiroth.

"Lots and lots of crap"

Like all the stuff he has performed with it already. You know, taking away Cloud's sword, decapitating Tifa, pulling down the Highwind, throwing massive boulders at Barrett, throwing Angeal at Genesis, holding Genesis' fireball in place.

Yeah, I can see why his telekinesis is so useful and great when he's done all of that.

Oh, wait?