Ok, so you want a numerical value. In Planet Hulk, he held together two tectonic plates. This is before he got upgraded to his now famous WWH strength level.
Let's calculate the mass of a tectonic plate on Earth's crust for comparison:
The lithosphere, consisting mainly of the cold, rigid, rocky crust of the earth extends to depths of 100 km (60 mi). The rocks of the lithosphere have an average density of 2.7 g/cm3 and are almost entirely made up of 11 elements, which together account for about 99.5 percent of its mass. The most abundant is oxygen (about 46.60 percent of the total), followed by silicon (about 27.72 percent), aluminum (8.13 percent), iron (5.0 percent), calcium (3.63 percent), sodium (2.83 percent), potassium (2.59 percent), magnesium (2.09 percent) and titanium, hydrogen, and phosphorus (totaling less than 1 percent). In addition, 11 other elements are present in trace amounts of 0.1 to 0.02 percent. These elements, in order of abundance, are carbon, manganese, sulfur, barium, chlorine, chromium, fluorine, zirconium, nickel, strontium, and vanadium. The elements are present in the lithosphere almost entirely in the form of compounds rather than in their free state. These compounds exist almost entirely in the crystalline state, so they are, by definition, minerals.
The lithosphere comprises two shells :the crust and upper mantle that are divided into a dozen or so rigid tectonic plates. The crust itself is divided in two. The sialic or upper crust, of which the continents consist, is made up of igneous and sedimentary rocks whose average chemical composition is similar to that of granite and whose density is about 2.7 g/cm3. The simatic or lower crust, which forms the floors of the ocean basins, is made of darker, heavier igneous rocks such as gabbro and basalt, with an average density of about 3. Taking all of this and some other factors into consideration, we get:
volume = 5.054 x10^19 cubic meters
density of 2.7 g/cm3
mass = 1.365 x10^23 kg = 2.18 % of earth's mass
= 2.72 % of earth's volume
Therefore if we divide this value into 12 (the given amount of tectonic plates on Earth), we have a value as follows:
mass per plate = 1.1375 x10^22 kg, or in terms of tons, 1.13 x10^19 metric tons (in layman's terms, that's 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons).
In other words, to even budge a tectonic plate, given that it is constantly forced against other tectonic plates, it requires trillions of tons of force at the bare minimum. What Hulk did was counter that force - counter trillions of tons of force being pressed in opposite directions. This is while getting burned by magma at the same time.
WWH for the win, 10/10.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Ok, so you want a numerical value. In Planet Hulk, he held together two tectonic plates. This is before he got upgraded to his now famous WWH strength level.Let's calculate the mass of a tectonic plate on Earth's crust for comparison:
The lithosphere, consisting mainly of the cold, rigid, rocky crust of the earth extends to depths of 100 km (60 mi). The rocks of the lithosphere have an average density of 2.7 g/cm3 and are almost entirely made up of 11 elements, which together account for about 99.5 percent of its mass. The most abundant is oxygen (about 46.60 percent of the total), followed by silicon (about 27.72 percent), aluminum (8.13 percent), iron (5.0 percent), calcium (3.63 percent), sodium (2.83 percent), potassium (2.59 percent), magnesium (2.09 percent) and titanium, hydrogen, and phosphorus (totaling less than 1 percent). In addition, 11 other elements are present in trace amounts of 0.1 to 0.02 percent. These elements, in order of abundance, are carbon, manganese, sulfur, barium, chlorine, chromium, fluorine, zirconium, nickel, strontium, and vanadium. The elements are present in the lithosphere almost entirely in the form of compounds rather than in their free state. These compounds exist almost entirely in the crystalline state, so they are, by definition, minerals.
The lithosphere comprises two shells :the crust and upper mantle that are divided into a dozen or so rigid tectonic plates. The crust itself is divided in two. The sialic or upper crust, of which the continents consist, is made up of igneous and sedimentary rocks whose average chemical composition is similar to that of granite and whose density is about 2.7 g/cm3. The simatic or lower crust, which forms the floors of the ocean basins, is made of darker, heavier igneous rocks such as gabbro and basalt, with an average density of about 3. Taking all of this and some other factors into consideration, we get:
volume = 5.054 x10^19 cubic meters
density of 2.7 g/cm3
mass = 1.365 x10^23 kg = 2.18 % of earth's mass
= 2.72 % of earth's volumeTherefore if we divide this value into 12 (the given amount of tectonic plates on Earth), we have a value as follows:
mass per plate = 1.1375 x10^22 kg, or in terms of tons, 1.13 x10^19 metric tons (in layman's terms, that's 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons).
In other words, to even budge a tectonic plate, given that it is constantly forced against other tectonic plates, it requires trillions of tons of force at the [b]bare minimum
. What Hulk did was counter that force - counter trillions of tons of force being pressed in opposite directions. This is while getting burned by magma at the same time.WWH for the win, 10/10.
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Those are awesome figures, but we have no idea how much bigger or how much smaller the planet in Planet Hulk was. I have a feeling that the Planet Hulk world (Sakaar?) would probably be about the size of Mercury, seeing as large explosions (the size of which would more than likely be smaller than Alvarez impact) have happened on Earth several times, and the Earth has obviously stayed in tact.
Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
Those are awesome figures, but we have no idea how much bigger or how much smaller the planet in Planet Hulk was. I have a feeling that the Planet Hulk world (Sakaar?) would probably be about the size of Mercury, seeing as large explosions (the size of which would more than likely be smaller than Alvarez impact) have happened on Earth several times, and the Earth has obviously stayed in tact.
Even if it was the size of Mercury, it would still take billions of tons of force to move tectonic plates.
Not to mention that he's strong enough to one-shot She-Hulk and then Ares like they're toilet paper:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/Hulk-Shehulk2.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/Hulkares.jpg
Not to mention, how many other characters can you think of that are strong enough to destroy adamantium:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkadamantium.jpg
Originally posted by Kutulu
Even if it was the size of Mercury, it would still take billions of tons of force to move tectonic plates.
I agree.
Not to mention that he's strong enough to one-shot She-Hulk and then Ares like they're toilet paper:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/Hulk-Shehulk2.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/Hulkares.jpg
There's tons of people that can do that, and it doesn't really show his current strength overshadowing anything else he used to do.
Not to mention, how many other characters can you think of that are strong enough to destroy adamantium:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkadamantium.jpg
He didn't destroy the adamantium at all in that scan, he just ripped the statue from the ground. Besides, I'm pretty sure they retconned that event later on.
Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
He didn't destroy the adamantium at all in that scan, he just ripped the statue from the ground. Besides, I'm pretty sure they retconned that event later on. [/B]
They retconned it to secondary adamantium, but he did in fact dig his fingers into the statue and not merely rip it from the ground.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/adamandigging.jpg
In addition check out these other scans:
Crushes an adamantium alloy:
http://img145.exs.cx/img145/7008/blastaar7os.jpg
Ties Doc Ock's adamantium arms into a bow:
http://img135.echo.cx/img135/5110/ock1d3kv.jpg
In this scan it states the machine can crush adamantium in 7.3 seconds, and it bites down right on top of Hulk's neck, yet he manages to endure it:
http://img99.echo.cx/img99/9221/durabilitydogowar3hm.jpg
He also dented Ultron who has an outer shell of adamantium:
http://img148.echo.cx/img148/4209/featsultron11cl.jpg
http://img148.echo.cx/img148/3866/featsultron1a2zz.jpg
How about just a base level strength check, of a Hulk pre-WWH:
Lifts a submarine with one hand (a modern submarine of that size would weight 7800 tons)
http://img129.exs.cx/img129/3789/submarine6sg.jpg
Or on Planet Hulk, lift a HUGE spaceship casually with one hand:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength1.jpg
How about ripping out a section of ground so big that throwing it was enough to destroy an entire mountain:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength3.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength4.jpg
Check out when he started going off on "classic" Juggernaut:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/comic%20book%20scans/juggslayout.jpg
Juggernaut was clearly winded from being punched.
And of course, the famous scan from Secret Wars of a Hulk that's weaker than his current incarnation in WWH:
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan100january1920069sw.jpg
One hundred and fifty BILLION tons.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Etrigan punched freaking superman all the way to the moon....I think that should go preety far in proving he could atleast break even with hulks strength.
uhhh... if he can hit superman to the moon he can hit hulk to the moon. isnt that BFR? so it wouldnt matter how much WWH can lift O_O cuz he will be on the moon....a loser on the moon.
Originally posted by SevenShackles
uhhh... if he can hit superman to the moon he can hit hulk to the moon. isnt that BFR? so it wouldnt matter how much WWH can lift O_O cuz he will be on the moon....a loser on the moon.
Really, what else has Etrigan done besides punching Superman to the moon?
