The one teaching of Christianity I have never seen proponents of said religion live by:
"Audistis quia dictum est, 'Diliges proximum tuum et odio habebis inimicum tuum.' Ego autem dico uobis, 'Diligite inimicos uestros, benefacite his qui oderunt uos, et orate pro persequentibus et calumniantibus uos.'"
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Originally posted by debbiejo
You said for [Mental Anguish]
mental anguish is indemonstrable
If someone has hospital bills, fine, misses work, sure. I am sure you could even twist my arm on this one pretty far, however, just plain old "mental anguish" is too ambiguous.
The government should only be allowed to take money away from people in an amount that can be rationally demonstrated by harm caused by the actions or neglect of an individual. Courts shouldn't just be allowed to make up numerical punishments for people, especially as this one was based on the celebrity status of the Phelps.
mental anguish is indemonstrableFalse.
I'm not taling about court rulings. I'm talking about this certain right to collect under the law. To limit what we like would be great and wonderful, but what if would inhibit others under the law? What about people really distressed? And for different reasons. Are we to take away their rights also because of an obscure point?
mental anguish i think is fair in a lot of such cases. imagine if a million christians arracnge an all out protest at another funeral. and only 2 or three people are attending the funeral. perhaps the actual mental anguish wont be greater than a few hundred people saying the same thing around them. but that isnt the problem. the ones who did it and expressed their spite shoud be made to pay for it. if there are 10 million the penalty should be equally higher.
Originally posted by inimalistIf I were the plaintiff, I would sue for slander, not mental anguish. God doesn't actually hate f@gs, as was proven by Robtard et al, so they have a much better case there, I think 😛
Freedom of speech covers "ruining someone's day".
I don't believe in suing for intangible reasons for exactly that reason: they're intangible and immeasurable. You can't put a monetary value on mental anguish.
inimalist, i kinda agree with what you're saying. while i get a certain amount of pleasure from the news its still troubling since its a valid slippery slope argument.
i think one solution would be to pass a law protecting the dignity of a funeral (and weddings as well if gay marriage is ever allowed). in fact, i feel if phelps wants to protest against gays and the war and america in general, its his right to, and he has plenty of options for where to spew his excrement besides a funeral.
there has to be a way to resolve this without trampling on our rights, though i doubt it will ever be found without earmarks galore.
:edit: perhaps the exception being that carrying on in front of a family in mourning at a funeral cerimony (a volitale situation to begin with) is a direct endagerment to everyone, like crying "fire" in a crowded theater....i dont know