Originally posted by Schecter
are you suggesting a state ordered execution?
I'm not for killing people just because they're assholes, but this group believes that homosexuality in of itself is sending everyone to hell, with the exception of "Gods selected few", which just happen to be Phelps and his congregation/family. Not saying I agree with Bardock, but he does have a valid point.
Originally posted by debbiejo
False.I'm not taling about court rulings. I'm talking about this certain right to collect under the law. To limit what we like would be great and wonderful, but what if would inhibit others under the law? What about people really distressed? And for different reasons. Are we to take away their rights also because of an obscure point?
Ok, but we are talking about court ruilings. Theoretically, I am not saying that one cannot sue for "mental anguish", just that the must be able to demonstrate a fiscal value that accounts for the damages caused by the offender.
I think we may be having a miscommunication, I am not trying to prevent people from speaking out against things. I am saying that, for any arm of the government to take what is an individual's property, there must be a clear justification for the value they choose. It cannot be arbitrary based on what the judge "thinks" is a good amount.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
mental anguish i think is fair in a lot of such cases. imagine if a million christians arracnge an all out protest at another funeral. and only 2 or three people are attending the funeral. perhaps the actual mental anguish wont be greater than a few hundred people saying the same thing around them. but that isnt the problem. the ones who did it and expressed their spite shoud be made to pay for it. if there are 10 million the penalty should be equally higher.
ok, so what would be the objective measure of mental anguish that allows a transparent and just amount of compensation to be paid to the victims?
Originally posted by Strangelove
If I were the plaintiff, I would sue for slander, not mental anguish. God doesn't actually hate f@gs, as was proven by Robtard et al, so they have a much better case there, I think 😛I don't believe in suing for intangible reasons for exactly that reason: they're intangible and immeasurable. You can't put a monetary value on mental anguish.
I agree with you entirely. Defimation and slander cases should have been easy wins, though clearly not with the 11 mil price tag.
Originally posted by Schecter
inimalist, i kinda agree with what you're saying. while i get a certain amount of pleasure from the news its still troubling since its a valid slippery slope argument.i think one solution would be to pass a law protecting the dignity of a funeral (and weddings as well if gay marriage is ever allowed). in fact, i feel if phelps wants to protest against gays and the war and america in general, its his right to, and he has plenty of options for where to spew his excrement besides a funeral.
there has to be a way to resolve this without trampling on our rights, though i doubt it will ever be found without earmarks galore.
:edit: perhaps the exception being that carrying on in front of a family in mourning at a funeral cerimony (a volitale situation to begin with) is a direct endagerment to everyone, like crying "fire" in a crowded theater....i dont know
I agree with your sentiment. The "though i doubt it will ever be found without earmarks galore" probably says it best 🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
You know "hundreds" of gay men and it's a bit personal... hmmm.
Ha ha...leave it to you to try to see things that imply homosexuality.
It was ab6out my job history and dating with my wife...it was off topic and it was a little personal, I don't feel like putting my career history AND our conversation was off topic. I like you enough, Robtard, to have that information I sent to Devil King. Would you like me to PM it to you?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Ha ha...leave it to you to try to see things that imply homosexuality.It was ab6out my job history and dating with my wife...it was off topic and it was a little personal, I don't feel like putting my career history AND our conversation was off topic. I like you enough, Robtard, to have that information I sent to Devil King. Would you like me to PM it to you?
Sure, I actually am curious how you know "hundreds" of gay men. Did you work in the steel industry at some point?
Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, I actually am curious how you know "hundreds" of gay men. Did you work in the steel industry at some point?
I sent it to you. Enjoy! 😄 teehee
Re: Church Fined Millions for Anit-Gay Protest at Funeral
Originally posted by InnerRise
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/01/ap/national/main3439663.shtmlThe church says the United States is losing troops because it tolerates gays, including in the military -- hence the many protests it has held at military funerals such as Snyder's. His sexuality was not an issue at the trial.
I figured it was because of bullets and I.E.D.'s...guess not. That church must be overflowing with geniuses. It's nice to see that they make the most of their resources by doing positive affairs.
Alright, could someone explain to my why they are targeting the military? The I thought that most of the time, you were kicked out if you admitted to being gay?...or the others would beat the shit out of you?
My point is, they are going about this very idiotically. Of all the organizations to target for homosexuality, they target the US military, which has a record of blatantly discriminating against homosexuals...? I am confused about that.
I think I know the reason they are targeting the military funerals: they know that it would be very controversial and will get them the most attention to target American Funerals. It is a publicity act to get their point across and obviously, it is very effective. "Don't feed the trolls" is probably the best way to go about it...however, it is very hard to no "feed the trolls" when they are celebrate that your son died in a very disrespectful. I wonder how many of the funerals that they have protested that actually had the passing of a homosexual man? Wouldn't it make much much more sense and be much more effective to protest outside of gay clubs? That is a major "duh!!!" on their part.
Idiots.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Alright, could someone explain to my why they are targeting the military? The I thought that most of the time, you were kicked out if you admitted to being gay?...or the others would beat the shit out of you?My point is, they are going about this very idiotically. Of all the organizations to target for homosexuality, they target the US military, which has a record of blatantly discriminating against homosexuals...? I am confused about that.
I think I know the reason they are targeting the military funerals: they know that it would be very controversial and will get them the most attention to target American Funerals. It is a publicity act to get their point across and obviously, it is very effective. "Don't feed the trolls" is probably the best way to go about it...however, it is very hard to no "feed the trolls" when they are celebrate that your son died in a very disrespectful. I wonder how many of the funerals that they have protested that actually had the passing of a homosexual man? Wouldn't it make much much more sense and be much more effective to protest outside of gay clubs? That is a major "duh!!!" on their part.
Idiots.
Because of the "don't ask, don't tell policy", they feel that by doing this, the military embraces and supports "faggotry", which in turn is the cause of why everyone (except their congregation) will be going to hell.
"Idiots" is correct; they're also hate mongers too.
Originally posted by Robtard
Because of the "don't ask, don't tell policy", they feel that by doing this, the military embraces and supports "faggotry", which in turn is the cause of why everyone (except their congregation) will be going to hell."Idiots" is correct; they're also hate mongers too.
Sherly said its because the US is country of "***-enablers" and the men and women of the US Armed Forces, by willing fighting for America, are in turn supoorting homosexuality, so God is punishing them for it. And according to the WBC, God invented IED's for that very reason. ( 🤨 )
There so much stuff in the Bible, but these nutcase Bible thumpers only concentrate on the few lines talk about gays.