Church Fined Millions for Anti-Gay Protest at Funeral

Originally posted by Robtard
Because of the "don't ask, don't tell policy", they feel that by doing this, the military embraces and supports "faggotry", which in turn is the cause of why everyone (except their congregation) will be going to hell.

"Idiots" is correct; they're also hate mongers too.

After rereading my post, you could tell what I was saying...however, it hurt my eyes to try to read that atrocity of a post...here it is again with corrections, only because it was so horrible the first time.

"Alright, could someone explain to my why they are targeting the military? I thought that most of the time, you were kicked out if you admitted to being gay?...or the others would beat the shit out of you?

My point is, they are going about this very idiotically. Of all the organizations to target for homosexuality, they target the US military, which has a record of blatantly discriminating against homosexuals...? I am confused about that.

I think I know the reason they are targeting the military funerals: they know that it would be very controversial and will get them the most attention to target American military funerals. It is a publicity act to get their point across and obviously, it is very effective. "Don't feed the trolls" is probably the best way to go about it...however, it is very hard to not "feed the trolls" when they are celebrating that your son died in a very disrespectful way. I wonder how protested funerals actually had the passing of a homosexual man? Wouldn't it make much much more sense and be much more effective to protest outside of gay clubs? That is a major "duh!!!" on their part.

Idiots."

Originally posted by dadudemon
After rereading my post, you could tell what I was saying...however, it hurt my eyes to try to read that atrocity of a post...here it is again with corrections, only because it was so horrible the first time.

"Alright, could someone explain to my why they are targeting the military? I thought that most of the time, you were kicked out if you admitted to being gay?...or the others would beat the shit out of you?

My point is, they are going about this very idiotically. Of all the organizations to target for homosexuality, they target the US military, which has a record of blatantly discriminating against homosexuals...? I am confused about that.

I think I know the reason they are targeting the military funerals: they know that it would be very controversial and will get them the most attention to target American military funerals. It is a publicity act to get their point across and obviously, it is very effective. "Don't feed the trolls" is probably the best way to go about it...however, it is very hard to not "feed the trolls" when they are celebrating that your son died in a very disrespectful way. I wonder how protested funerals actually had the passing of a homosexual man? Wouldn't it make much much more sense and be much more effective to protest outside of gay clubs? That is a major "duh!!!" on their part.

Idiots."

So you weren't asking a question, when you said "Alright, could someone explain to my why they are targeting the military?"

Originally posted by dadudemon
After rereading my post, you could tell what I was saying...however, it hurt my eyes to try to read that atrocity of a post...here it is again with corrections, only because it was so horrible the first time.

"Alright, could someone explain to my why they are targeting the military? I thought that most of the time, you were kicked out if you admitted to being gay?...or the others would beat the shit out of you?

My point is, they are going about this very idiotically. Of all the organizations to target for homosexuality, they target the US military, which has a record of blatantly discriminating against homosexuals...? I am confused about that.

I think I know the reason they are targeting the military funerals: they know that it would be very controversial and will get them the most attention to target American military funerals. It is a publicity act to get their point across and obviously, it is very effective. "Don't feed the trolls" is probably the best way to go about it...however, it is very hard to not "feed the trolls" when they are celebrating that your son died in a very disrespectful way. I wonder how protested funerals actually had the passing of a homosexual man? Wouldn't it make much much more sense and be much more effective to protest outside of gay clubs? That is a major "duh!!!" on their part.

Idiots."

They are not targeting homosexuals as individuals, but the nation, and the army as the symbollic representation of the nation, for being permissive of homosexual lifestyles. The believe that negative things that happen to heterosexual individuals stem directly from this tollorance of homosexuality.

Rather than just being controversial, they interpret the dead soldiers as being the material consequence of sin.

Originally posted by Robtard
So you weren't asking a question, when you said "Alright, could someone explain to my why they are targeting the military?"

It was a question and you answered it. But in the same post, I also explained why it was stupid to target the military, regardless of the reason.

Originally posted by inimalist
They are not targeting homosexuals as individuals, but the nation, and the army as the symbollic representation of the nation, for being permissive of homosexual lifestyles. The believe that negative things that happen to heterosexual individuals stem directly from this tollorance of homosexuality.

Rather than just being controversial, they interpret the dead soldiers as being the material consequence of sin.

Hmmm, why wouldn't they go to the source? Really, wouldn't God be punishing the homosexuals for being homosexuals if indeed God actually punishes homosexuals for being homosexuals?

Last time I checked, Jesus Christ taught to be loving to a sinner, not hate the sinner. He showed us clearly with the story about stopping everyone from stoning the adulterous women. I think this point was already made. You cannot be called a Christian unless you are trying to follow the teachings of Christ.

Because they're a bunch of delusional assholes, guided my a bigger delusional @sshole, who happens to be a hatemonger with a God-complex. Good news, Fred Phelps is pushing 80; he won't be around much longer.

(Mods... why is "assholes" allowed, but the singular isn't?)

Originally posted by Robtard
Good news, Fred Phelps is pushing 80; he won't be around much longer.

Bad news, Fred Phelps has infected the minds of the next four generations of his family. What he has to say will be around for a long time to come.

Originally posted by Devil King
Bad news, Fred Phelps has infected the minds of the next four generations of his family. What he has to say will be around for a long time to come.

Sadly, you are right.

Just the same as Muslim Jihad extremists, these Christians extremists are a scourge and an insult to their peers.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Hmmm, why wouldn't they go to the source? Really, wouldn't God be punishing the homosexuals for being homosexuals if indeed God actually punishes homosexuals for being homosexuals?

Last time I checked, Jesus Christ taught to be loving to a sinner, not hate the sinner. He showed us clearly with the story about stopping everyone from stoning the adulterous women. I think this point was already made. You cannot be called a Christian unless you are trying to follow the teachings of Christ.

you actually hit the nail on the head. Christianity, compared to other religions (and this is a really arguable point anyways) has a higher tollorance for individual freedom. The concept of free will (ie, people have the right to choose to turn away from god) has created a christian religion where "loving the sinner" is promoted. We can argue what this loving actually entails, but it is at the core of the reason why these people think it is a national issue and not an individual one.

I, as a person who doesn't believe in God, wouldn't claim to know what makes a real Christian, but the philosophy that is at the core of christianity would see this as an issue of christian society and not of sinners. I heard Tim Phelps interviewed, and again, you can disagree with the conclusion, but this is HIS logic. God is the one who gets to judge "faggots", but as a society, to be a pious group of individuals, the government must not allow these people, who have made their descision, to be part of the religious nation.

Again, you or I could argue what this "tollorance" really means, or if it really is tolloration, but it is what the Phelps will use as their rationalization. At that, you can either believe them or come up with a reason why they would make up almost indefensable beliefs.