Darkseid Vs Superman:Validation of Superman's victories

Originally posted by Bad Ash231

http://www.starlin.com/todayspanel

haermm

😂

I kind of doubt that in the story, Superman is going to merely fly through Darkseid. There's almost certainly some extenuating circumstances behind that panel. It looks almost like a robot to me given the pieces flying around with no blood. Or perhaps Darkseid has been depowered by whatever it is that's in possession of the ALE in the background. We'll see when the issue comes out.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
I kind of doubt that in the story, Superman is going to merely fly through Darkseid. There's almost certainly some extenuating circumstances behind that panel. It looks almost like a robot to me given the pieces flying around with no blood. Or perhaps Darkseid has been depowered by whatever it is that's in possession of the ALE in the background. We'll see when the issue comes out.

Ill be 😆 if he does.

Actually it would be ridiculous if Superman killed Darkseid even if he was depowered. Either the mystery killer or Orion should be the ones to kill Darkseid if he has to die, especially since it's Orion's destiny to kill Darkseid.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Actually it would be ridiculous if Superman killed Darkseid even if he was depowered. Either the mystery killer or Orion should be the ones to kill Darkseid if he has to die, especially since it's Orion's destiny to kill Darkseid.

It's a comedic picture... God...

Unless it actually happens... then sweet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You will be hearing from me if Superman does indeed kill Darkseid.

Ill be 😆 if he does.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
I find it funny how whenever you see a new low showing for Ds, you get happier than a child in a candy shop.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No becuz I have always said this shit about Superman and how he matches up against Darkseid physically. I guess Starlin heard me becuz hes making everything I said emphatically true and if Superman kills Ds Ill rub it in so badly.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
And at the same time, you've said that Ds should be treated with respect by Dc. Contradicting much? How can you have respect for something, when you try to glorify an event that makes the said subject look bad? That to me, is an indication that you have little respect for Darkseid as a character, and that you in fact have some kind of personal grudge against him. Not suprising really, seeing how you spend most of your time downplaying New Gods in general.

😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ds should be treated with respect but losing to Superman isnt that bad of a thing. The real point is that this is what I have been saying on here for a while. Ds with all his mamma jamma powers is more than Superman but in a brawl for the umpteenth time he goes down. It is the way it is and all this pis and cis bullshit I have heard on here is getting changed up. I love every minute of it. I was right old starking and you were wrong. If superman does indeed kill Darkseid Ill celebrate it as quanchi was correct the whole time day.

😆

So for now on out, I'd like for you not to use that as evidence in your arguments. 🙂 Cause you know....it's irrelevent.

As for your little celebration statement, why would you be happy to see a negative effect on something, you claim to respect? That's as ridiculous as saying I'll celebrate when I see the twin towers collapse, because I always knew someone would knock them down. Yet at the same time I claim to be sad....wouldn't be very sad if I was celebrating would I?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Black adam could beat regular superman on average and that ww 3 black adam would lose to a sundipped superman but that it wouldnt be a cakewalk like some on here claimed.

You asked for it. 😉

Originally posted by spetznaz
While I agree that the fight (a more appropos phrase would be 'the beating'😉 would be awesome to see, I have to totally disagree with you when you state that it would be close. This fight (beating) would not be close to the slightest degree ....what it would be is one insane curb stomp.

Now, let me explain. Actually, before I do that I want to raise two issues that you yourself brought into this thread.

The first was your initial post, in which you said:

i)
[b]'superman from the story where he fought ds and took him to the sun vs black adam from ww 3. they both have the stae of mind to kill the ohter. who wins this anger fest?'

You clearly state that both are out for the kill.

The second point I want to raise is the following (which comes from the KMC rules, a set of rules that EVERYONE should read before posting ...if people read those rules around 90-95% of the stupid junk posted on the forum would no longer be churned out):

ii)
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.

Now, what is the meaning of this? It means that per KMC rules both characters shall be fighting to the best of their abilities (meaning that Black Adam will be pushing the powers granted to him by SHAZAM to their fullest, while Kal-El will also be stretching his Kryptonian powers to their utmost). Thus none of them will be holding back!

Alright.

However, as we both know, Black Adam is more vicious than Superman is. That is one of 2 reasons why he is always protrayed as 'stronger' than Captain Marvel (the other reason, which is not as big, is that Cap Marvel tends to have his powers split between Mary marvel and Marvel Junior ....while Teth tends to have all of his to himself, although in a recent arc he had also split his powers ....but that is not important since the major thing that marks BA as 'special' is that he uses his powers in a very ruthless manner).

HOWEVER, in your rush to post you also stated that Superman would be (to quote you) have a state of mind to kill. That means that Superman would not ONLY be fighting per KMC rules, BUT THAT HE WOULD ALSO be out to kill Black Adam.

Not defeat Black Adam ....not soften him up .....not teach him a lesson.

Kill him!

Outrightly kill him.

What you just did, my dear Quanchi, is effectively negate the ONLY advantage that Black Adam MIGHT have had against Superman. You basically ensured that Black Adam would lose in your very first post on this thread.

BUT ...it doesn't end there. You decided to go further. This is what you said (and the third thing on my list):

iii)
The Title of the Thread:
superman(sundipped)vs black adam (ww3)

Now, you stated that the fight would be between a sun-dipped Superman and Black Adam (based on his fight against the bunch of heroes in WW3).

Now, there are several things you need to realize. A sun-dipped Superman is something that is on an entirely different level. It is like bloody giving Popeye peyote-enriched Spinach! Or like enraging the Hulk for weeks on end while bathing him in enhanced Gamma radiation! Or like taking a Green Lantern and having his ring be able to tap into the ENTIRE power of Oa!

In essence, you are basically taking every single Kryptonian ability that Superman has, and amping it up to the nth level. (Note: The Sun Dip was a literary tool that DC could use when they wanted to take post-crisis Superman back to his pre-crisis ability levels for short-periods of time. It is a 'deus ex machina' (wiki the term) tool for when they wanted to have the powered-down post-crisis Superman achieve feat levels that were more akin to his pre-crisis days. Thus the sun-dip ....i.e. how do you have Superman handle a threat that is beyond his powers and would be against all logic ...simply have him spend some time near/on/in/at a/the yellow Sun).

What about BA in WW3? Well, that was simply BA being the same ol' bada$$ he is and stomping a bunch of heroes (although the whole thing with MM was stretched).

Anyways, having a sun-dipped Superman going against Black Adam (no matter how 'ruthless'😉 is simply tantamount to suicide for BA.

Conclusion:

This is a curbstomp!
Black Adam is attacked on Earth while Superman is still in the Sun's corona (you saw what some heat vision did to BA's face in that scan ....now imagine sun-amped heat vision striking a man sized object).

And I know someone will say that Black Adam is magically powered and that his powers (punches) could affect Superman.

Well, true ....but ask yourself this ....in a KMC fight (where none of the characters are holding back) when would BA have the opportunity to lay his hands on Kal El? BA is fast ....but not as fast as Superman (not to mention a sun-dipped one). And someone will say that BA will use the magical lightning to hit Kal (he had to use it on MM once)....but that would depower BA into his human state, and would that be prudent when you are facing a SUN-DIPPED SUPERMAN out to KILL YOU?

Superman (sun dipped) wins this 10/10.

It is not even a contest. Not the closest.

If you wanted to make it a fairer fight (note: I did not say fair) then you would have made it a fight between BA and Superman (none sun-dipped). And even then I would have given Superman the win (why? Read the KMC rules again ....the only way BA could hurt Superman is through the lightning, or by getting close enough to punch him. However, Superman has a variety of long-range attacks he could use that would put him out of range of BA's magically enhanced physical attacks). Now, in comic books what would happen is that the two would be trading physical blows within arm's length of each other, and then Superman would stupidly give BA a bear hug - at which point BA would call down the magical lightning that would smite Kal El like he was a rat inside a microwave. Goodness, that same approach has been used at least THREE TIMES in various depictions of fights against Captain Marvel and Superman. But in a KMC fight .....)

Anyways, Sun-dipped Superman vs Black Adam = Black Adam dies. Quickly. [/B]

Don't **** with Spetnaz. 😎

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You asked for it. 😉

Don't **** with Spetnaz. 😎

Why?

Was that post supposed to be impressive or something?

Originally posted by KK the Great
Why?

Was that post supposed to be impressive or something?

Humph. Cretin. 🙄

zomg teh sundip supreim 10/10 is teh best!!1

*swoon*

I like how he kept blathering on about Superman's sundip powerup, but never bothered to acknowledge the fact that Adam was also powered up in WWIII. It was like everyone forgot that detail. Until, of course, near the end of the thread when nvr suddenly wanted to discount WWIII feats on the grounds that BA was powered up. Hilarious.

I look forward to teaching this spetznaz lad his proper place one of these days.

Originally posted by KK the Great
zomg teh sundip supreim 10/10 is teh best!!1

*swoon*

I like how he kept blathering on about Superman's sundip powerup, but never bothered to acknowledge the fact that Adam was also powered up in WWIII. It was like everyone forgot that detail. Until, of course, near the end of the thread when nvr suddenly wanted to discount WWIII feats on the grounds that BA was powered up. Hilarious.

I look forward to teaching this spetznaz lad his proper place one of these days.

Originally posted by KK the Great
zomg teh sundip supreim 10/10 is teh best!!1

*swoon*

I like how he kept blathering on about Superman's sundip powerup, but never bothered to acknowledge the fact that Adam was also powered up in WWIII. It was like everyone forgot that detail. Until, of course, near the end of the thread when nvr suddenly wanted to discount WWIII feats on the grounds that BA was powered up. Hilarious.

I look forward to teaching this spetznaz lad his proper place one of these days.

Read. Then STFU and get the **** OFF KMC. You're herochat trash, and you're not wanted. 👇

Originally posted by Blight
Good luck 😉

You don't need luck when you've got an innately superior intellect.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Read.

I've read it. Own the trades.

I thought it was particularly hilarious that quanchi asked for a reference of Superman beating J'onn after a long fight (since, you know, it had been claimed that Superman has done such), and somehow you guys got it in your heads that Superman pushing Warworld would fill his request.

Just want to clear up a few things...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I could almost hear you saying this. Very good use of tone in your writing style. I will try and be nicer to everyone but air. 😄

just generally being nicer would be fine...

Originally posted by Avlon
😇

Remember, show positive energy, because YOU are the pack leader.

umm... what?

Originally posted by Soljer
Holy shit, PR.

I didn't think anyone was being serious about all of this.

I know I haven't been. Maybe I've been skipping over those posts - what are you referring to in particular? I definitely haven't seen anything to warrant being this upset...

I'm not talking about this thread in particular, i just happened to post it here... Every day when i log on, be it here or MSN, someone has something to complain about regarding someones bad attitude on kmc, and it has been getting worse and worse. Its a general message to anyone who thinks they can break the rules and get away with it...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That ain't how things work round these parts pilgrim.

what?

Also:

KK the great, I don't mind if you want to talk up your forum and whatnot, but the condescending attitude as to go...