Possible battlezone? Anyone want to represent Superman

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Originally posted by KK the Great
I've brought it to their attention, but it may take a bit to hear back.
Thanks. 👆

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Which doesn't mean much. If it isn't kryptonite from said planet, it won't work.

It's the form of radiation that hurts Superman. The exact form of radiation. There would be no difference between it and normal kryptonite.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The argument is that he would base it off Kal's physiology.

Surfer would have to be shown doing such a thing..and even with that...as it currently stands the rule is different universe...kryptonite doesn't work.

Besides...Ko'ing with fists is a lot easier and simpler than...let me try to scan your physiology, try to come up with your weakness and they try and affect you with it even though chances are it won't.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's the form of radiation that hurts Superman. The exact form of radiation. There would be no difference between it and normal kryptonite.

Then that would be the case for all forms of kryptonite.

Originally posted by Soljer
Not a bit of evidence for that.

Said kryptonite from different worlds dont' work on different kryptonians. So it's go to be from that world. Unless the surfer runs into a piece of it and knows what he is looking for, how would he know how to make it?

Originally posted by Avlon
Surfer would have to be shown doing such a thing..and even with that...as it currently stands the rule is different universe...kryptonite doesn't work.

That's a really weak interpretation.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Said kryptonite from different worlds dont' work on different kryptonians. So it's go to be from that world. Unless the surfer runs into a piece of it and knows what he is looking for, how would he know how to make it?

Scan Superman the way he did to Galdiator.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Scan Superman the way he did to Galdiator.

When Gladiator is from his own universe? And glads was what? standing there giving him time to do it? he sure as hell doesn't use this method every time he is in MID battle.

Just FYI, Astro on HeroChat is a bigger DS fan than Nvr or Jimmy-san but he actually is fair and impartial in New God debates.

If you want to know anything about the NGs, just ask Astro and he'll give you a fair assessment of the character and what t hey can do. No "true God DS >>>> all!!!! or "it was a Darkseid avatar!" Even though he thinks the Doomsday stories suck, he isn't gonna make the avatar excuse because it's simple speculation.

Originally posted by KK the Great
That's a really weak interpretation.

It's been shown and said that Kryptonite from a different universe doesn't work.
Artificial kryptonite is even worse.

Surfer's best claim on the subject was trash talking Gladiator.

2 for Supes.

0 for Surfer.

In this regard anyway...and when SS and Glads fought straight up...Glads looked better in their fight.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Said kryptonite from different worlds dont' work on different kryptonians. So it's go to be from that world. Unless the surfer runs into a piece of it and knows what he is looking for, how would he know how to make it?

Superman has been hurt with kryptonite radiation before, not JUST the actual stone itself.

Hence, it seems that each universes' kryptonite puts off a different wavelength of radiation. The Surfer would just have to isolate the correct one. 🙂.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Just FYI, Astro on HeroChat is a bigger DS fan than Nvr or Jimmy-san but he actually is fair and impartial in New God debates.

If you want to know anything about the NGs, just ask Astro and he'll give you a fair assessment of the character and what t hey can do. No "true God DS >>>> all!!!! or "it was a Darkseid avatar!" Even though he thinks the Doomsday stories suck, he isn't gonna make the avatar excuse because it's simple speculation.

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
When Gladiator is from his own universe?

What does that have to do with anything?

And glads was what? standing there giving him time to do it? he sure as hell doesn't use this method every time he is in MID battle.

Are you aaware of the fact that you're soundly proving darthgoober's point?

Originally posted by Soljer
Superman has been hurt with kryptonite radiation before, not JUST the actual stone itself.

Hence, it seems that each universes' kryptonite puts off a different wavelength of radiation. The Surfer would just have to isolate the correct one. 🙂.

And in the infinity of wavelengths that would accompany the infnite earths that have existed, how would he have time to do such before superman vibrates a finger thru his eye?

Originally posted by KK the Great
What does that have to do with anything?

Are you aaware of the fact that you're soundly proving darthgoober's point?

No. The point is, Superman isn't going to be standing there giving surfer time to do such an analysis. That is the point.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And in the infinity of wavelengths that would accompany the infnite earths that have existed, how would he have time to do such before superman vibrates a finger thru his eye?

He does it immediately.

There are an infinite number of wavelengths that could have affected Gladiator too, but the Surfer casually and instantly isolated the correct one.

Originally posted by Avlon
It's been shown and said that Kryptonite from a different universe doesn't work.

Again, a really, really weak interpretation.

Kryptonite "from a different universe" doesn't work because it is a wholly different rock emitting a completely different radiation.

If Surfer is producing Kryptonite radiation, he would produce the wavelength from Superman's universe--not Earth-2 or any other universe.

Originally posted by Soljer
He does it immediately.

There are an infinite number of wavelengths that could have affected Gladiator too, but the Surfer casually and instantly isolated the correct one.

While Gladiator was standing there. And let's be clear, Kryptonite doesn't affect superman the way that radiation affects gladiator. Nuff said.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No. The point is, Superman isn't going to be standing there giving surfer time to do such an analysis. That is the point.

Really? Because it seemed to me that your point was, "he sure as hell doesn't use this method every time he is in MID battle."

That's why, I suspect, you said, "he sure as hell doesn't use this method every time he is in MID battle."

Confirming exactly what darthgoober said to begin with.

Originally posted by Soljer
He does it immediately.

There are an infinite number of wavelengths that could have affected Gladiator too, but the Surfer casually and instantly isolated the correct one.


Not that it really matters because if we apply the same standards to Surfer that we do to DC characters, he wins 10/10 against Supes by BFRing him to another part of the universe or into the far future. After all, Surfer has defenses against physical attacks, Supes has no way to counter time travel...