Originally posted by Cosmic Cube1. When did he do that.?
Turning someone into a powerless body-less spirit, is the closest he's come to doing that.The Triforce of Power is a plot device, and without it, he cannot do any of the things I mentioned. Without it, he isn't invincible.
Me too.
2. He is still more powerful than any single mortal in LoZ.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
He sent Phantom Ganon to a pocket dimension when it failed him. He also creates life from nothing.
Baal creates life from nothing...he summons hordes of demons varying in type and power, from creatures that can ressurect their own dead, swarming balrogs, his own special minions of destruction and he has an indestructable shield.
I don't see why anyone would have an obvious win over Ganon.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
It's not as though he's going to be outclassed by someone. People fail to realize that while using the Triforce of Power, he is more than a match for just about any video game character.
thats quite a fanboyish statement, i mean Kain could defeat Ganon with ease, and i wasnt saying gameplay Baal would do it with ease, only he wouldnt be stomped, i would say Baal 7/10 wins
Originally posted by Burning thoughtKain = vulnerable to magic, and Ganon is "more" invincible.
Baal creates life from nothing...he summons hordes of demons varying in type and power, from creatures that can ressurect their own dead, swarming balrogs, his own special minions of destruction and he has an indestructable shield.I don't see why anyone would have an obvious win over Ganon.
thats quite a fanboyish statement, i mean Kain could defeat Ganon with ease, and i wasnt saying gameplay Baal would do it with ease, only he wouldnt be stomped, i would say Baal 7/10 wins
Ganon would take an easy win over him.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I'll stand by my statement.Unless the said character is on par with the Goddesses, with all of his abilities, Ganon would be a match for him.
thats a foolish statement imo, as i said, kain would rip an y incarnation of Ganon and ime sure V2D would agree with me that Pyron would beat the hell out of Ganon, as could many Darkstalkers.
what are the Goddesses feats? can Ganon show comparisons? simply because he uses some of her power doesnt mean he can do everything she can
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. When did he do that.?2. He is still more powerful than any single mortal in LoZ.
2. Not necssarily so. Before he possessed the Triforce, he had to bargian with the Deku Tree, and Darunia. Had he been simply more powerful, he could have taken what he wanted.
Originally posted by Burning thought1. Kay. Ganon can summon on a whim invulnerable wraiths to attack enemies. Als can summon Phantom Ganons.
Baal creates life from nothing...he summons hordes of demons varying in type and power, from creatures that can ressurect their own dead, swarming balrogs, his own special minions of destruction and he has an indestructable shield.I don't see why anyone would have an obvious win over Ganon.
thats quite a fanboyish statement, i mean Kain could defeat Ganon with ease, and i wasnt saying gameplay Baal would do it with ease, only he wouldnt be stomped, i would say Baal 7/10 wins
2. ....I didn't say that...
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Kain = vulnerable to magic, and Ganon is "more" invincible.Ganon would take an easy win over him.
lmfa!! make the thread, kain vs ganon....lol..Ganon could have his soul ripped, his mind sparked, TKed into oblivion, warped in time and every other aspect you could imagine
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube1. When?
1. Twilight Princess2. Not necssarily so. Before he possessed the Triforce, he had to bargian with the Deku Tree, and Darunia. Had he been simply more powerful, he could have taken what he wanted.
2. Lol, he KILLED the Deku Tree. He wanted to keep a low profile and cut the Gorons off from their food to get the stone from them.
Also, Pyron would PWN Ganon.
Originally posted by Burning thought
thats a foolish statement imo, as i said, kain would rip an y incarnation of Ganon and ime sure V2D would agree with me that Pyron would beat the hell out of Ganon, as could many Darkstalkers.what are the Goddesses feats? can Ganon show comparisons? simply because he uses some of her power doesnt mean he can do everything she can
Invincible people don't get "ripped".
The Goddesses created the realm that Hyrule is in. They don't have feats; they are simply omnipotent. The Triforce is a small fraction of their power.
No, Ganondorf can't do everything that Din can do.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeEveryone was turned into a body-less spirits by the Twilight magic, amplified by the Triforce of Power. The only reason Link and Zelda weren't transformed is that htey had the Triforce pieces.
1. When?2. Lol, he KILLED the Deku Tree. He wanted to keep a low profile and cut the Gorons off from their food to get the stone from them.
Also, Pyron would PWN Ganon.
He gave the Deku tree a parasite. It wold like me giving you HIV via a needle. Doesn't make me more powerful than you.
If you're more powerful than everyone, why keep a low profile?
Pyron is like Galactus. Ganon wouldn't be able to defeat him, but using the Triforce of Power, Ganon wouldn't be killed either.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube1. Oh right, that's what you meant. Technically, Zant did that, but logically Ganon could as well, as Zant's power is a small portion of Ganon's.
Everyone was turned into a body-less spirits by the Twilight magic, amplified by the Triforce of Power. The only reason Link and Zelda weren't transformed is that htey had the Triforce pieces.He gave the Deku tree a parasite. It wold like me giving you HIV via a needle. Doesn't make me more powerful than you.
If you're more powerful than everyone, why keep a low profile?
2. He used a CURSE that gave a parasite.
3. He's smart, he's more powerful than any single human, not the entirety of Hyrule.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeHe wouldn't be as powerful as Din.
Logically, if Ganon attained full control over the ToP, he could do everything Din can. If just anyone got a Triforce piece, they might not be able to do much with it, like Link.
Link sucks at using the Triforce.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Oh right, that's what you meant. Technically, Zant did that, but logically Ganon could as well, as Zant's power is a small portion of Ganon's.2. He used a CURSE that gave a parasite.
3. He's smart, he's more powerful than any single human, not the entirety of Hyrule.
You might be right about that. Maybe.
Originally posted by Burning thought
lmfa!! make the thread, kain vs ganon....lol..Ganon could have his soul ripped, his mind sparked, TKed into oblivion, warped in time and every other aspect you could imagine
Not if he's invulnerable. It's hard to debate on Ganondorfs behalf without saying that.
Ganondorf can turn him into a powerless soul.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I don't see why anyone would have an obvious win over Ganon.It's not as though he's going to be outclassed by someone. People fail to realize that while using the Triforce of Power, he is more than a match for just about any video game character.
That's what I've said all along.. Ganon woop his ass with Pyron, Jedah, Sargeras, KOS-MOS, Amazo and the Old Gods, the Prime Evils and Sonic combined, on his own, without breaking a sweat.. At least that's how some of you lot make it appear to be..
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Oops. I was thinking of another character. Doesn't matter.Not if he's invulnerable. It's hard to debate on Ganondorfs behalf without saying that.
Ganondorf can turn him into a powerless soul.
no, him being invulerable doesnt mean anything to kain, has he ever had his soul ripped out before? has he ever defended against a soul ripping attack?...if not...then kain wins through soul reaving even if Ganons soul cannot be destryoed, he wins through submission when Ganon is inside the reaver
when does he do this? is it a fast attack? what form of attack is it? Kains soul is not powerless, it has incredible power in it...so you would have to tell me the specifics of this move, kain has hundreds of powers at his disposal and a shield from any magic attack is one of them, not to menstion with a gesture he can have ganon since with a thought he stops time all around him with the reaver, with a gesture, he could freeze Ganon in place.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtThey don't do a lot of "Soul Ripping" in TLOZ.
no, him being invulerable doesnt mean anything to kain, has he ever had his soul ripped out before? has he ever defended against a soul ripping attack?...if not...then kain wins through soul reaving even if Ganons soul cannot be destryoed, he wins through submission when Ganon is inside the reaverwhen does he do this? is it a fast attack? what form of attack is it? Kains soul is not powerless, it has incredible power in it...so you would have to tell me the specifics of this move, kain has hundreds of powers at his disposal and a shield from any magic attack is one of them, not to menstion with a gesture he can have ganon since with a thought he stops time all around him with the reaver, with a gesture, he could freeze Ganon in place.
So, simply because he hasn't had his soul ripped means he's vulnerable to it? Not necessarily.
Ganondorf uses Twilight Magic, which turns anyone in the vicinitity (except for those with Triforce pieces) into spirits.
If Ganondorf turned him into a spirit, he would be powerless.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
They don't do a lot of "Soul Ripping" in TLOZ.So, simply because he hasn't had his soul ripped means he's vulnerable to it? Not necessarily.
Ganondorf uses Twilight Magic, which turns anyone in the vicinitity (except for those with Triforce pieces) into spirits.
If Ganondorf turned him into a spirit, he would be powerless.
And yes if hes never shown any resistences then it means it would effect him..simple...otherwise i could pull out rubbish like just because kain has never been effected by Twilight magic hes not going to be affected by it..Kains soul rip can rip the souls out of basically anything, infact nothing escapes his soul rip unless one does not have a soul, he would stop time, then do this to stop ganon easily.
ahh i see Twilight magic, Kain can cast Repel, while its active he is near invincible and it reflects spells back on who casts them....Ganon if it werent for his triforce piece would become a spirirt, also why would kain be in the vicinity?