Baal VS Ganon

Originally posted by MadMel
undefeatable my arse 🙄
link has defeated him too many times for that claim to be true..
heres some facts -
1. kain only has one real weakness, and raziel survived 10000 years of it..raziel at the time was merely a weak vampire, whereas kain is the vampire's messiah, the scion of balance..
2. the blood reaver (the weakest form of the soul reaver) was built to destroy the [b]evil hylden..the fully powered soul reaver is the ultimate weapon of balance, meaning that it is also a weapon created to destroy evil such as the elder god (the biggest source of evil in the game)
soul reaver = evil destroying sword..
gannon/dorf - can only be destroyed be swords than can destroy evil...your words, not mine..
time stop + reaver blast/stab = dead gannon 😬 [/B]

I'm not saying that if Ganon made it rain Kain would die instantly, but it would affect him negatively.

As I asserted before, time stop wouldn't be a problem.

Remember that the Reaver didn't kill the Elder God.

If the Soul Reaver is in fact an evil destroying sword, then you're right, and Kain would win, as that would be a means of exploiting Ganon's weakness, and Kain is a much more capable foe than Link. If it isn't, Ganon would win.

Regardless, I'm through debating the topic.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Once again, the only reason that Link has been able to do so is that Ganon has an inherent weakness to magical evil destroying swords, and nothing else.

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
The "only harmed by light sword/arrow" thing is removed, to make the actual discussion fair, or that'll be all we'll be hearing from those that is for Ganon..

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Once again, the only reason that Link has been able to do so is that Ganon has an inherent weakness to magical evil destroying swords, and nothing else.

I'm not saying that if Ganon made it rain Kain would die instantly, but it would affect him negatively.

As I asserted before, time stop wouldn't be a problem.

Remember that the Reaver didn't kill the Elder God.

If the Soul Reaver is in fact an evil destroying sword, then you're right, and Kain would win, as that would be a means of exploiting Ganon's weakness, and Kain is a much more capable foe than Link. If it isn't, Ganon would win.

Regardless, I'm through debating the topic.

Kain has an evil destroying sword oringinally, and now he is likely to have Raziels reavers and powers (Raziels power and soul has gone into the reaver wheras his reaver twin on his arm itself has gone into kain, so either he can use raziels powers through the reaver OR he can do it himself) but Kains got a light sword reaver, like the light arrows are light.

Dont even try and debate against the Elder God, the fact the thing gets cut at all is quite powerful and stopped, the Elder God also unlikely has a soul, so the reaver would be less effective.

The Reaver is not an evil-destroying weapon...it's just a sword infused with vampriric energy. It can be used for good or evil. The original Soul Reaver in Blood Omen was distinctly dark, chaotic, filled with Raziel's insanity and hatred. The new Soul Reaver is free of all corruption but that doesn't mean it has an anti-evil aura or anything.

If you are going to bump, at least add some relevance to the actual thread with it.

Nah. I'll respond to the posts in the thread if they need correcting.

Threads has been locked for not remaining on topic, so if you decide to bump, please bump with information to the actual thread concerning the matter at hand..

The matter at hand was the misconception the Soul Reaver ws an evil destroying blade like the Master Sword.

Wrong choice of words from my side there, I guess.. What I mean is that no matter what conclusion one comes to concerning the Soul Reaver, it will not help achieving a conclusion to the actual versus..

Hm. That is true then.

This isn't even Kain vs. Ganon...

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
This isn't even Kain vs. Ganon...

QFT

I'd say Baal wins though..

agreed

and yea it is an evil destroying sword...read my post concerning that particular topic 😬

originally posted by MadMel
2. the blood reaver (the weakest form of the soul reaver) was built to destroy the evil hylden..the fully powered soul reaver is the ultimate weapon of balance, meaning that it is also a weapon created to destroy evil such as the elder god (the biggest source of evil in the game)
soul reaver = evil destroying sword..
gannon/dorf - can only be destroyed be swords than can destroy evil...your words, not mine..
time stop + reaver blast/stab = dead gannon

Except the Hylden aren't evil or at least weren't. They were just the enemies of the vampires who were a bunch of nutjob zealots like Christian crusaders or Islamic terrorists. So the Ancients constructing the Blood Reaver isn't proof it's anti-evil.
The Soul Reaver damages the Elder God because it's a pure blade andattacks multiple dimensions. I guess that might count as evil destroying blade but it's a bit dubious.

while its true that the EG is the only true evil in the series (except maybe the hylden lord), the fact is that raziel sacrificed himself so that kain would destroy the elder god using the reaver, as it was the only weapon capable of touching him..the soul reavers true purpose was to not only contain raziels soul, but to kill the elder god..
so while i was partially wrong about the blood reaver, the soul reaver is in fact, an evil destroying blade..

Evil destroying blades can't kill Ganon either, so who the hell cares?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Different Ganon. Twilight Princess Ganon and Wind Waker Ganon aren't one and the same. Besides, having fire breathed on him isn't the same as a spell being cast, so in the context he used it, it is irrelevant.

Well technically, they are the same person, just not a single being, in that one occupies the second future born from OOT's single past. It's been stressed before that no matter how many Links or Zeldas there are, there's only one Ganondorf in that he doesn't have descedants/reincarnations, a second self in a second future is different.

EDIT: But seriously, where the hell did Baal go?

No idea.

Baal as he appeared in Diablo 2 though would be crushed.

a demonlord who makes people explode by waving his hands, and can summon an army of monsters with that same motion?
baal stuns ganon with his uber shout than thrashes him with magic..
ganons gets crushed 😬

Originally posted by MadMel
a demonlord who makes people explode by waving his hands, and can summon an army of monsters with that same motion?
baal stuns ganon with his uber shout than thrashes him with magic..
ganons gets crushed 😬