Originally posted by Sirius77Cyborg isnt as powwerful as Prime and even though cyborg did have a powerup that doesnt change the fact that superman looked pathetic.
Henshaw has eight rings, abilities as powerful or more than supermans, the most powerful tech at his whim, and is completely immortal...
getting beaten by cyborg isn't a bad thing, being able to last three panels is a high feat imo.
Originally posted by Sirius77So a reporter saying Superman's hv exceeds the heat of the sun is okay but Doc Samson saying he can find no limit to Hulk's strength or Leader saying it while testing him can't be used to prove Hulk does have limitless or nearly limitless strength while Superman's strength has been measured? Superman in a slugfest is at a major disadvantage. Without his speedblitz which is really the only way to beat Hulk soundly.
It was the highest temp measured by human beings. The reporter said that supermans hv far exceeded that. Didn't you see the post?
Hulk has stood with people that compare to Superman in strength there is no reason Hulk can't beat Superman at all. And it's not like Hulk can't get to Superman's strength fast because his strength doesn't jump at a certain level. One minute he can be calm and the next he can be lifting thousands of tons.
Originally posted by KentoThats sirius for you. He defends his kryptonians to the end but isnt fair at all when looking at the hulk.
So a reporter saying Superman's hv exceeds the heat of the sun is okay but Doc Samson saying he can find no limit to Hulk's strength or Leader saying it while testing him can't be used to prove Hulk does have limitless or nearly limitless strength while Superman's strength has been measured? Superman in a slugfest is at a major disadvantage. Without his speedblitz which is really the only way to beat Hulk soundly.Hulk has stood with people that compare to Superman in strength there is no reason Hulk can't beat Superman at all. And it's not like Hulk can't get to Superman's strength fast because his strength doesn't jump at a certain level. One minute he can be calm and the next he can be lifting thousands of tons.
Yes I know becuz Hulk has beaten Thor down and he was nowhere near as mad as he is in ww hulk.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestWell this is the ww hulk where are talking about here. I think without the speed blitz Superman would go down for sure. Physically Hulk and his healing factor are just to much. Hulk had his power levels lowered and had his neck snapped only to recover. I mean the guys freakin amazing.
Hulk's strength is dynamic. It's never the same. Which is why I give him the nod in a pure slugfest with Superman's other powers turned off. Pure strength&durability only, Hulk would win a majority. BUT, with Superman's other powers still on, Hulk's boned.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Well this is the ww hulk where are talking about here. I think without the speed blitz Superman would go down for sure. Physically Hulk and his healing factor are just to much. Hulk had his power levels lowered and had his neck snapped only to recover. I mean the guys freakin amazing.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestI don't see what Freeze Breath would do at all since Hulk can survive the extreme cold, and who is to say Superman's heat vision could really do anything that Hulk couldn't just regen from. He's walked through Glad's, he's walked through having all his skin flayed off, he's been in lava, and other high temps also.
Hulk's strength is dynamic. It's never the same. Which is why I give him the nod in a pure slugfest with Superman's other powers turned off. Pure strength&durability only, Hulk would win a majority. BUT, with Superman's other powers still on, Hulk's boned.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345Superman's healing factor is nothing compared to Hulk's though. While I do admit Superman has some great durability feats.
The thing is superman does have better durability feats...and a sick healing factor of his own.
Originally posted by Kento
I don't see what Freeze Breath would do at all since Hulk can survive the extreme cold, and who is to say Superman's heat vision could really do anything that Hulk couldn't just regen from. He's walked through Glad's, he's walked through having all his skin flayed off, he's been in lava, and other high temps also.
The only difference between supes's heatvision and glad's is about 3 billion degrees
Hulk has never been exsposed to anything that hot.
I dont think anybody in marvel has
Originally posted by Gecko4lifOh here we go. I mean come on and get off this now. Superman doesnt beat everyone with heat vision now. When hes in trouble he doesnt just say oh I think ill use my hotter than the sun heat vision for the win. Nope sorry but WW Hulk is physically more than Superman. He'll beat the stuffing out of him.
The only difference between supes's heatvision and glad's is about 3 billion degreesHulk has never been exsposed to anything that hot.
I dont think anybody in marvel has
Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh here we go. I mean come on and get off this now. Superman doesnt beat everyone with heat vision now. When hes in trouble he doesnt just say oh I think ill use my hotter than the sun heat vision for the win. Nope sorry but WW Hulk is physically more than Superman. He'll beat the stuffing out of him.
I said he beats hulk with it.
Did the op say there was or wasnt bfr on?
There are so many ways for supes to win this isnt even funny. (hence the restrictions)
Supes is far beyond hulk at the start of this fight.
Depending on how angry the hulk actually is and how long the fight lasts supes dominates horribly
If this was a fight of attrition how ever hulk would more likly then not win out over superman in the end
Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh here we go. I mean come on and get off this now. Superman doesnt beat everyone with heat vision now. When hes in trouble he doesnt just say oh I think ill use my hotter than the sun heat vision for the win. Nope sorry but WW Hulk is physically more than Superman. He'll beat the stuffing out of him.
1. Superman doesn't kill. That's one reason. 2. He holds back alot of the time. 3. Just because he doesn't go all out doesn't mean you get to disregard the times when he does.
Originally posted by Kento
How? He could have killed a lot of people yet he didn't. He could have killed the Illuminati members right where they all stood with the exception of Dr. Srange yet he didn't. He's making them all battle each other sure but nobody has died so far.
or did you miss that part?
And yet nobody has died yet because they are able to block or dodge or whatever. If he really wanted to kill them don you think he would have stopped himself from killing Blackbolt or Skrull Blackbolt or whatever it was that he beat, or Iron Man, or Reed, or Xavier, or any of the others who were in his way that he didn't kill that stood between him and his goals.