Originally posted by Kento
And two scientist at different times have tried to calculate Hulk's strength with their technology and yet they were unable to and he broke the machine. So if you can take what a reporter said about Superman's heat vision even though it was from a scientist than why is it so hard to accept Hulk's strength cannot be calculated? While apparently Superman's can be calculated...and when is his power ever said to be sixty five quintillion? Unless you're trying to do the math based on All-Star Superman which would be very faulty since All-Star isn't canon.
I never doubted that hulks strength was incalculable.
And as superman is three times as powerful as normal superman.
Thats where the sixty five quintillion came from.
Originally posted by Kento
It also took Gladiator a bit of time to get through Hulk's skin so what makes you think Superman will do it so effortlessly by covering Hulk's body as Hulk is walking towards him and does exactly like he did to Gladiator and push it back into his eyes?
Gladiator blasted a hole through hulk. It is stated that gladiators hv is as hot as the core of stars. It is stated that supermans hv is is
hotter than the core of stars, in fact it is stated that supermans hv is hotter than anything that scientists can measure. Which is three billion degrees at least. Hulk is not walking through that.
Originally posted by Sirius77And wasn't it stated in All-Star that he was three times stronger not any other comic. All-Star being three times stronger than he was doesn't mean the Canon Superman is that strong.
I never doubted that hulks strength was incalculable.And as superman is three times as powerful as normal superman.
Thats where the sixty five quintillion came from.Gladiator blasted a hole through hulk. It is stated that gladiators hv is as hot as the core of stars. It is stated that supermans hv is is
hotter than the core of stars, in fact it is stated that supermans hv is hotter than anything that scientists can measure. Which is three billion degrees at least. Hulk is not walking through that.
Gladiator didn't even blast a hole all the way through Hulk as he walked towards him and it was being poured on. And so Superman may have hotter heat vision but why would it work better against a stronger Hulk? Also a weaker Hulk has walked towards somebody while his skin was being flayed off so why would WW Hulk be unable. Maybe if Superman stayed up in the sky or was like a mile (or even maybe a 100 yards) or so away Hulk would be gone or hard pressed but if he jumped back as they are fighting and did it or if he tried while they are brawling what makes you think he'll have enough time to turn Hulk into ash before Hulk can push it back into his eyes?
Originally posted by Sirius77Cyborg aint got shit on Prime my friend. Prime took on scores of heroes including Superman when he wasnt at full power. Cyborg beats Supes ass and that was about it.
Actually, cyborg is on Superboy-primes level. He's more versitile. Also, he is leagues above superman in physical abilities and versitility.No, a reporter quoting from a scientist that has studied supermans hv enough to know that there is no limit that they can find said that. As we know, dc earth is alot more technologically advanced than our earth. We have only been \able to generate three billion degrees, dc earth is more advanced, so that is why three billion degrees is the minimum. Hulk has not shown himself to be able to stand temperatures as hot as supermans hv.
Thousands of tons doesn't compare to sixty five quintillion...
Even your abc logic is wrong... thats sad. Anyways, stop talking about me like you know me, and if you'd like to talk about defending characters, then who is the one who brings up thanos or darkseid in almost every thread?
The only reason why gladiators hv only blew a hole in the hulk is because he hasn't shown the ability to spread it out. If he did, then hulk would have been incinerated. Superman has shown the ability to do so.
Originally posted by Kento
And wasn't it stated in All-Star that he was three times stronger not any other comic. All-Star being three times stronger than he was doesn't mean the Canon Superman is that strong.
A/s superman started out at baseline strength. As strong as the normal superman. He got too close to the sun, and....
Also, can you prove that superman can't lift 65 quintillion tons?
In the nineies he threw a moon sized ship out of the solar system...
I'm pretty sure thats more than sixty five quintillion tons... I just used
that number as a lower base estimate.
Originally posted by Kento
Gladiator didn't even blast a hole all the way through Hulk as he walked towards him and it was being poured on. And so Superman may have hotter heat vision but why would it work better against a stronger Hulk?
Because three billion degreesa is alot hotter than fifteen million.
Originally posted by Kento
Also a weaker Hulk has walked towards somebody while his skin was being flayed off so why would WW Hulk be unable.
Because if fifteen million penetrated him, then three billion would incinerate him... do you know how big of a temp jump that is?
Originally posted by Kento
Maybe if Superman stayed up in the sky or was like a mile (or even maybe a 100 yards) or so away Hulk would be gone or hard pressed but if he jumped back as they are fighting and did it or if he tried while they are brawling what makes you think he'll have enough time to turn Hulk into ash before Hulk can push it back into his eyes?
Because the blast will be too hot for him to touch without being burned.
You can walk into a furnace and block the heat with your body... but you'll still get incinerated. Thats what would happen to hulk.
Originally posted by Sirius77No All-Star started out at what level they wanted that has no bearing on any other Superman at all.
A/s superman started out at baseline strength. As strong as the normal superman. He got too close to the sun, and....Also, can you prove that superman can't lift 65 quintillion tons?
In the nineies he threw a moon sized ship out of the solar system...
I'm pretty sure thats more than sixty five quintillion tons... I just used
that number as a lower base estimate.Because three billion degreesa is alot hotter than fifteen million.
Because if fifteen million penetrated him, then three billion would incinerate him... do you know how big of a temp jump that is?
Because the blast will be too hot for him to touch without being burned.
You can walk into a furnace and block the heat with your body... but you'll still get incinerated. Thats what would happen to hulk.
When did Superman throw a moon-sized ship out of the solar system? I know he threw one out of Earth's atmosphere when fighting Lobo but Lobo saying that he would be circling Earth for what was it a century or something I can't remember if he didn't stop himself was more impressive because just because it's moon-sized doesn't mean it was as heavy as the moon or even how heavy it was.
Sure three billion degrees is a big leap from fifteen million but wasn't the Hulk that Gladiator fought weaker in healing and durability? Hulk's taken reentry without having his skin burnt off, he's been put in the highest degrees Leader could do an he was fine, he survived just fine in lava. What proof is there Superman is going to incinerate him in just seconds?
Originally posted by TricksterPriestI know that Superman got beat down physically by Cyborg. We have yet to see anyone take down WW Hulk but youll still say Superman wins. I took out speedblitz. Superman dies.
Because Superman's feats far surpass those of Hulk and his powers are superior. Tell me, do you know what the Mageddon wheel feat is?
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never claimed I did. But I know about the asspounding he got recently.
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magg0ac.jpg
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Mageddon itself, at several light years distance from Earth.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest😆
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http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magg23jf.jpgMageddon itself, at several light years distance from Earth.
