Originally posted by leonheartmm
zeal, war = mass murder. the acts of war are not justified , simply because "its war". armed comflict is a great evil.
oh, n this discussion is useless. the bible is a selective compliation of gospels made by constantine and the like , which only chose the books which were in accodance with their beleifs{paul included} and discarded every other record as heresay. furthermore, most of it isnt even the words or teachings of christ. a very small percentage, {the red letter bible} even has a CHANCE {assuming the author didnt make it up or misquote it} of being the authentic word of the man, yeshua. and ironically, it doesnt say much at all about christianity's most orthodoxed beleifs like trinity, or jesus being the son of god, or redemption through his soul dying for their sins or the rapture etc etc. so i dont think u guys will get anywhere with this.its all down to faith.
Furthermore, some of the discarded books of the Bible have been proven to be forgeries, and those that didn't agree with the rest of the Bible would not be considered to be divinely inspired. Ergo, they don't belong in the Bible.
Furthermore, some of the discarded books of the Bible have been proven to be forgeries, and those that didn't agree with the rest of the Bible would not be considered to be divinely inspired. Ergo, they don't belong in the Bibleyeah but still those rejected ones could be much closer to the truth than the ones that was accepted as scripts of the bible/nt
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
And, no, Christ would not support murder--"murder" not being equivalent to "killing"--although he would support justice.
Justice? And who is defining "justice"? What would constitute "justice" in this case?
If Jesus popped up today, in that part of the world, who would he see forcing people off their land, forcing another people to live as second-class citizens?
Originally posted by Devil King
Justice? And who is defining "justice"? What would constitute "justice" in this case?If Jesus popped up today, in that part of the world, who would he see forcing people off their land, forcing another people to live as second-class citizens?
Originally posted by Devil King
With interest to not totally dismissing your reply as rhetoric, could you use specific examples of what you mean?
When all these blessings and curses I have set before you come upon you and you take them to heart wherever the LORD your God disperses you among the nations, and when you and your children return to the LORD your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today, then the LORD your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you. Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the LORD your God will gather you and bring you back. He will bring you to the land that belonged to your fathers, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live. 7 The LORD your God will put all these curses on your enemies who hate and persecute you. You will again obey the LORD and follow all his commands I am giving you today. Then the LORD your God will make you most prosperous in all the work of your hands and in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your land. The LORD will again delight in you and make you prosperous, just as he delighted in your fathers, if you obey the LORD your God and keep his commands and decrees that are written in this Book of the Law and turn to the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.