I would assume that as well from what I know of Bane. He seemes smart and cunning, but I'm not sure if he could best Lord Tyranus.
However, I don't know too much about Bane, and I have a friend with a major hard on for him who says he could probably defeat Sidious. I was under the impression Sidious was the strongest Sith ever, and that Palpatine could curbstomp Bane. Anyone with a decent knowledge of the rule of two's creator care to enlighten me?
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
I would assume that as well from what I know of Bane. He seemes smart and cunning, but I'm not sure if he could best Lord Tyranus.However, I don't know too much about Bane, and I have a friend with a major hard on for him who says he could probably defeat Sidious. I was under the impression Sidious was the strongest Sith ever, and that Palpatine could curbstomp Bane. Anyone with a decent knowledge of the rule of two's creator care to enlighten me?
Sidious is the strongest sith ever. This actually being argued in the sidious vs sion thread. Gahlaktus has posted several quotes supporting it. And Gideon gets props giving some posted on it aswell. And I think we will need a new Bane vs dooku thread soon.
Originally posted by GahLakTus
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Page 109 from the Dark Empire sourcebook:"Palpatine has risen from the dead. The most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived had returned."
Empire's End, one of the Sith spirits: "He gave up everything to the Dark Side long ago. He has become the greatest who ever lived. He is the strongest who ever lived....I say we give what he wishes."
Star Wars Insider, Kevin J. Anderson, upon asked if he ever intended his Sith to be stronger than the OT sith: "No. Exar Kun, Naga Sadow and the others are on a firmly lower tier than Emperor Palpatine."
On TFN.net, official response to the strongest Sith: "Palpatine at his peak."
Essential Chronology: "the most powerful Sith who had ever lived, Emperor Palpatine had returned from the grave."
Now thanks to gideon for these
"The Rebels were turning out to be more troublesome than many had expected. The Emperor had known it would be thus, of course; the resistance had not been a surprise to him. The Emperor was completely in concert with the dark side of the Force. He was the most powerful Sith to have ever existed."
-- Death Star, page 76."...Yoda could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history."
-- The New Essential Chronology, page 84Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting."
-- The Complete Visual Dictionary, page 72
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Thanks for the infor on Palpy. Back to Bane, how does he stack up against the Sith Lords from the prequel and original trilogy?
Bane vs Dooku or Vader would very close and go either way for me personally. But Bane beats Maul. And no problem on the info the credit goes to Gahlaktus and Gideon since they provided the quotes.
Bane would tool this duo and Dooku in seconds. Not only is he one of the smartest force users and fighters there is, he's an incredibly skilled lightsaber duelist, extremely strong with the force, and possesses armour that is virtually indestructible, with only a few gaps in the joints, and stopping at Bane's neck.
He's beyond Sidious for sure.
Originally posted by Ultra Omega
Bane would tool this duo and Dooku in seconds. Not only is he one of the smartest force users and fighters there is, he's an incredibly skilled lightsaber duelist, extremely strong with the force, and possesses armour that is virtually indestructible, with only a few gaps in the joints, and stopping at Bane's neck.He's beyond Sidious for sure.
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Oh Really? Given his pure status within the force (Sith Chosen One), the fact that his power was described as far greater than that of the entire Brotherhood of Darkness, and his showings (which I'll get on to) I'd say Bane is clearly the more powerful of the two.
Take for instance his near complete destruction of Ruusan. He was able to quite simply absorb the power of the other then current BoD Masters in the form of lightning (which puts to shame Corran Horn's gift of energy absorption), which he partially was taking forcefully, so that he could focus their entire combined power into himself (remember that Bane's force powers was stated as being far greater than that of the entire BoD, which would consist of all of these mentioned Masters + more) and unleash their power by himself. Now, rather than be consumed by such a level of power (which was described as being able to consume anything and everything in its path, and would have destroyed the whole of Ruusan if the Sith Masters had stuck with the ritual), he was able to fully harness it, and rather than lose control over it, he was able to direct it on a planet wide scale.
Or, of course, you could consider his BotS incarnation, which grows in power heavily, to the point where he's able to nudge the moon Dxun towards Onderon for a pretty considerable distance.
Now, factor in his fighting smarts, as well as his orbalisk armour, and the fact that he was able to contend with Kas'im, possibly the greatest swordsman ever up until his time on even terms in saber combat, and you have Bane destroying Sidious.
He's likely on par with the Luke Skywalkers of the SWU, and he's clearly beyond Sidious.
Originally posted by Ultra Omega
Bane would tool this duo and Dooku in seconds. Not only is he one of the smartest force users and fighters there is, he's an incredibly skilled lightsaber duelist, extremely strong with the force, and possesses armour that is virtually indestructible, with only a few gaps in the joints, and stopping at Bane's neck.He's beyond Sidious for sure.
Oh god, honestly...hasn't Palpatine being the strongest ever been proven beyond reasonable doubt like a zillion times in these forums. I'm tired of noobs coming here and blabbering on about random crap and misinformed opinions. I refuse to argue it, someone just link to one of the like 200 threads where it has been proven because its really annoying and tiresome to keep saying, and reading, the same stuff over and over and over. Palaptine is the strongest Sith who ever , live with it, deal with it, move on.
Originally posted by Ultra Omega
Oh Really? Given his pure status within the force (Sith Chosen One), the fact that his power was described as far greater than that of the entire Brotherhood of Darkness, and his showings (which I'll get on to) I'd say Bane is clearly the more powerful of the two.
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"Bane recognized him as one of the lesser students from the Academy on Korriban: so weak in the Dark Side, it wasn't even worth learning his name." pg276
These are the kind of JOKES that are made DARK LORDS.
Oh and remember the masters claiming the strongest of the academy are sent to worlds like ruusan? There you go
The Sith students on Korriban were supposedly the best of the best, yet most were made Lords after MONTHS of training just to fill numbers
Githany a Jedi Knight after a few months is promoted to Lord.
Most of the Sith were cannon fodder that were easily killed by CHILDREN swinging lightsabers like monkeys. Source? Jedi vs sith and before you go on rambling "but it is now non canon!", only certein parts have been RETCONNED whereas the battle of ruusan still took place thus backing up what i have just POSTED
They were all subservient to Kaan a petty, narcissistic lunatic with a force ability to influence people.
Revan alone held more knowledge then their ENTIRE Academy
Originally posted by Ultra OmegaContend with kasi'm? Last i recall the only thing which kept bane from getting his ass raped was that he memorised all of kasim's sequences and he simply saw a set of forms and knew how to counter them. Now, what happened when kasim used a different style which followed a different sequence? He got owned.
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Now, factor in his fighting smarts, as well as his orbalisk armour, and the fact that he was able to contend with Kas'im, possibly the greatest swordsman ever up until his time on even terms in saber combat, and you have Bane destroying Sidious.
That is NOT a definition of skill. Hell Kas'im even told him NOT to rely on set's of forms and memorizing.
Originally posted by Ultra OmegaLol, on par with luke skywalker, a demi god who could swing his saber until it looks like he is holding 20 and carve through thousands of vong warriors. Go on.
He's likely on par with the Luke Skywalkers of the SWU, and he's clearly beyond Sidious.
Originally posted by Ultra Omega
Do you like live on KMC Galactus? I don't think there's been a time where I've been on and you haven't.
Weren't you whining to Darth Hord on another thread that he was being "rude and offensive"? And you opt to do it here in the same breath? Bullshit. Do it again and I report.
Originally posted by Ultra OmegaHe refuses to argue because you ignore and defy canon, the same thing you did on your previous accounts nebaris.
You refuse to argue it, because you can't. As always, you'll enter a thread, post an opinion, and leave. Now go home, and take your broken fingers with you.
Originally posted by Ultra Omega
Do you like live on KMC Galactus? I don't think there's been a time where I've been on and you haven't.
I should ask you the very same question neb, do you live in KMC? Seeing you sock and get banned about 10 times and refusing to accept the fact that nobody here wants you posting in this forum.
Your acting like a child whos begging his mother to let him back in the house after getting kicked out 10 times.
[quote]bla bla bla and you have Bane destroying Sidious.bla bla bla and he's clearly beyond Sidious.[/quote]
"The Sith finally emerged from a thousand years of watching and waiting, their numbered in the accordance with the tradition set by Darth Bane, only two. The most powerful of these sith was Darth Sidious..."- The Darkside Sourcebook