Nihilus vs. ROTS Sidious, TK battle.

Started by GahLakTus4 pages

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
LOL! Even I didn't know this, what is this in? Also that's pwnage...Super Star Destroyers are insanely gigantic.
This occured during the OT i think, lightsnake brought up this issue when i spoke to him on msn.

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LOL! Nikkolas just got permanently banned from KMC

Where does it say Sidious lifted the SSD?

Originally posted by GahLakTus
LOL! Nikkolas just got permanently banned from KMC

What did he do?

He admitted being a pedophile...

Originally posted by 123KID
Where does it say Sidious lifted the SSD?

co-signed

Originally posted by Darth Hord
What did he do?

User banned by Raz, permanently

Reason: Admitting to pedophilia:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9808088#post9808088

Originally posted by Utrigita
Reason: Admitting to pedophilia:
Is that a joke? 😆

No...

It was bullshit. Read the whole situation like I have. It was over sumthin Nik did 2 years ago on a different forum.

Originally posted by 123KID
Where does it say Sidious lifted the SSD?
The time when the lusankya existed and executor constructed. 1ABY

Lets not forget that seeing the ship is so huge and immense, it is impossible to cloak a ship that size. Palpatine also didn't want other people including his own to know of the ships existence so he mind raped the billions of people on coruscant making them forget what they saw.

Face is V2K, sidious > your precious nihilus in all aspects. Weather in combat, TK, force knowledge, abilities, connection to the force.

[cliegg lars] Your nihilus is dead son, accept it [cliegg lars]

I know Sidious is more powerful than Nihilus, Sidious is more powerful than most. Also, isn't it possible, that after 40 years, he grew STRONGER in the Force during OT? So I hardly see how that feat is even relevant.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I know Sidious is more powerful than Nihilus, Sidious is more powerful than most. Also, isn't it possible, that after 40 years, he grew STRONGER in the Force during OT? So I hardly see how that feat is even relevant.
Doesnt change the fact sidious > nihilus.

Palpatine lifting a Super Star Destroyer is just plain badass. Thats all that needs to be said.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
The time when the lusankya existed and executor constructed. 1ABY

Lets not forget that seeing the ship is so huge and immense, it is impossible to cloak a ship that size. Palpatine also didn't want other people including his own to know of the ships existence so he mind raped the billions of people on coruscant making them forget what they saw.

Face is V2K, sidious > your precious nihilus in [b] all aspects. Weather in combat, TK, force knowledge, abilities, connection to the force.

[cliegg lars] Your nihilus is dead son, accept it [cliegg lars] [/B]

I don't think you quiet answear the question.

Where does it say that Palpatine lifted the Super Star Destroyer Lusankya.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
Sidious wtf owns him with TK seeing that he lifted a super star destroyer(lusankya) which is 19 kilometers long while nihilus only possibly lifted the ravager

Can you provide the exact quote or some sort of evidence showing that Sidious himself used the Force to lift that massive ship and burry it beneath the Coruscant?

As far as I know! Lusankya after being completed was taken to Coruscant and it was then placed in a "repulsorlift cradle" and than buried beneath that planet's surface. The cityscape was rebuilt over the ship afterwards to hide its location.

Palpatine was using the Force to cloak the entire event actually.

And according to Star Wars NEGC, this event is described on page 83 and the exact quote is:

"She [Isard] renamed the vessel the Lusanyka, and with help from the Emperor's mind-fogging powers, Imperial engineers buried the tremendous battleship beneath the cityscape in Coruscant's Manari Mountain district."

Hence Darth Nihilus is so far the only Sith Lord who has been confirmed to have lifted a massive ship "Ravager" by purely using the Force.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Can you provide the exact quote or some sort of evidence showing that Sidious himself used the Force to lift that massive ship and burry it beneath the Coruscant?

As far as I know! [B]Lusankya after being completed was taken to Coruscant and it was then placed in a "repulsorlift cradle" and than buried beneath that planet's surface. The cityscape was rebuilt over the ship afterwards to hide its location.

Palpatine was using the Force to cloak the entire event actually.

And according to Star Wars NEGC, this event is described on page 83 and the exact quote is:

"She [Isard] renamed the vessel the Lusanyka, and with help from the Emperor's mind-fogging powers, Imperial engineers buried the tremendous battleship beneath the cityscape in Coruscant's Manari Mountain district."

Hence Darth Nihilus is so far the only Sith Lord who has been confirmed to have lifted a massive ship "Ravager" by purely using the Force. [/B]

Ok doesn't change the fact that sidious still mind raped the inhabitants of coruscant making the forget what they saw, and this mind rape is in the millions seeing that coruscant is densely populated.

And since nihilus is the only one lifted a ship it doesn't mean he > sidious in pure TK, Vaders secret apprentice did the same thing to an even larger imperial star destroyer and he is weaker than both palpatine and vader

And even if the engineers did fly the ship and bury it in coruscant, it would take thousands of people to operate the ship, its been stated in star wars insider that it takes a crew of 1000 people to operate a mere venator star destroyer let alone some thing 17 times the size of that.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
Ok doesn't change the fact that sidious still mind raped the inhabitants of coruscant making the forget what they saw, and this mind rape is in the millions seeing that coruscant is densely populated.

He could have used the same force ability that Luke used to shield planet Brath Qella and the Teljkon Vagabond along with vaders Fortress on Coruscant. Didn't you yourself stat that Palpatine had access to all the jedi Holocrons it is very likely that he learned the ability there.

And since nihilus is the only one lifted a ship it doesn't mean he > sidious in pure TK, Vaders secret apprentice did the same thing to an even larger imperial star destroyer and he is weaker than both palpatine and vader[/B]

He used the force to crashland a imperial stardestroyer, yet we have no idea of how he did it, he could have used the force to destroy the machinery that was used to keep the star destroyer in the air.

And even if the engineers did fly the ship and bury it in coruscant, it would take thousands of people to operate the ship, its been stated in star wars insider that it takes a crew of 1000 people to operate a mere venator star destroyer let alone some thing 17 times the size of that. [/B]

And why would that be a problem??? It's preferebly in my eyes to have a number of engineers piloting the thing and then kill them instead of mind raping millions of people on Coruscant.

Originally posted by Utrigita
He could have used the same force ability that Luke used to shield planet Brath Qella and the Teljkon Vagabond along with vaders Fortress on Coruscant. Didn't you yourself stat that Palpatine had access to all the jedi Holocrons it is very likely that he learned the ability there.
Possible, but to cloak something that big depicts incredible power

Originally posted by Utrigita

He used the force to crashland a imperial stardestroyer, yet we have no idea of how he did it, he could have used the force to destroy the machinery that was used to keep the star destroyer in the air.
Yet we see him pulling the star destroyer towards him and subsequently stopping it with the force. That alone shows massive TK. If he just busted the engines and knocked out the pilots the ship wouldnt have plundered its way toward him and would just crash elsewhere unless he uses the force of course to pull it towards him which is what the video showed us

Originally posted by Utrigita

And why would that be a problem??? It's preferebly in my eyes to have a number of engineers piloting the thing and then kill them instead of mind raping millions of people on Coruscant.
Learn how to read Utrigita , where does it state palpatine killed all those engineers, FYI it takes a thousand of people to operate a venator star destroyer let alone a super star destroyer 12 times the size of a victory class abd venator. So how is it he killed all those thousands of people and it went unreported. What about the people who saw the ship being buried? What about the people who saw the ship after it was buried?

Considering the immense population of coruscant and the sector the ship was buried in, people have definately seen the ship and why would it give reason for palpatine to kill thousands of people? He may have cloaked it with the force but he certeinly couldn't have kept it that way for years. He at one point of time must had stopped force cloaking the ship where the inhabitants of coruscant had seen it hence it gives him reason to wipe their memory making them forget what the saw.

Even in the movies im very sure palpatine used the dark side and clouded the vision of tens and thousands of jedi so why couldn't he cloud the minds of mere inhabitants?

Again even the quote legend kindly provided stated along with the help of palpatines mind fogging powers, this indicates he has mind raped the thousands who piloted the ship as well as the millions on that paticular sector where the lusankya was buried

Originally posted by GahLakTus
Possible, but to cloak something that big depicts incredible power

So a Super star destroyer is bigger then a Planet??? And it was stated that the cloaking shield Luke placed around the planet lasted for at least a hundred years.

Yet we see him pulling the star destroyer towards him and subsequently stopping it with the force. That alone shows massive TK. If he just busted the engines and knocked out the pilots the ship wouldnt have plundered its way toward him and would just crash elsewhere unless he uses the force of course to pull it towards him which is what the video showed us[/B]

So he pulled the Star destroyer towards him... Okay.

Learn how to read Utrigita , where does it stated palpatine killed all those engineers, FYI it takes a thousand of people to operate a venator star destroyer let alone a super star destroyer 12 times the size of a victory class abd venator. So how is it he killed all those thousands of people and it went unreported. What about the people who saw the ship being buried? What about the people who saw the ship after it was buried?

Considering the immense population of coruscant and the sector the ship was buried in, people have definately seen the ship and why would it give reason for palpatine to kill thousands of people? He may have cloaked it with the force but he certeinly couldn't have kept it that way for years. He at one point of time must had stopped force cloaking the ship where the inhabitants of coruscant had seen it hence it gives him reason to wipe their memory making them forget what the saw.

Even in the movies im very sure palpatine used the dark side and clouded the vision of tens and thousands of jedi so why couldn't he cloud the minds of mere inhabitants?

Again even the quote legend kindly provided stated along with the help of palpatines mind fogging powers, this indicates he has mind raped the thousands who piloted the ship as well as the millions on that paticular sector where the lusankya was buried [/B]

It required 279,144 to operate to full capacity that includes gunners etc. Star Wars behind the magic.

Though it is not known how the Empire was able to keep such an immense project hidden, it is presumed that either all the witnesses were executed, or that Emperor Palpatine used the Force on a massive scale to command everyone to forget what they saw. source X-wing: The Krytos Trap.

Choose what you want I find it most likely that the emperor

1. used the earlier mentioned force technique to shield the ship. Ore utilized the cloaking field that Thrawn found on Wayland to shield the ship.
2. Executed all that knew about it.

And then again Starwars.com Databank says something entirely different.

The Lusankya was actually a functional Super Star Destroyer secretly constructed beneath the towering skylines of Coruscant.

Originally posted by Utrigita
So a Super star destroyer is bigger then a Planet??? And it was stated that the cloaking shield Luke placed around the planet lasted for at least a hundred years.
Did i say that? Learn to read you fu*king idiot. I said for someone to cloak something that big it shows incredible power. Now obviously luke and sidious are considered "force gods" hence they could do that. And luke, being far superior to sidious could cloak a planet for 100 years means so what? Nothing at all indicates that sidious could have done what luke has done seeing luke surpasses sidious by miles in raw power alone.

Originally posted by Utrigita

So he pulled the Star destroyer towards him... Okay.
A ship the same size as the ravager, still he shifted an object as large as a ship

Originally posted by Utrigita

It required 279,144 to operate to full capacity that includes gunners etc. Star Wars behind the magic.
Still it would take at the very least, tens and thousands of people to pilot the ship, it would not take mere a "few" as you tried to put it out.
Originally posted by Utrigita

Though it is not known how the Empire was able to keep such an immense project hidden, it is presumed that either all the witnesses were executed, or that Emperor Palpatine used the Force on a massive scale to command everyone to forget what they saw. source X-wing: The Krytos Trap.
And its word for word in wookiepedia. Again how is palpatine going to "execute" tens and thousands of engineers who piloted the ship without going it getting reported? How is he going to execute the thousands in total secrecy? Again the mind raping issue is brought in. Why would he kill thousands of imperial troops when he can easily mind trick all of them and not waste the lives of imperial personal when he can use them in future?

Again the inhabitants of coruscant would have still seen the ship, it could not be cloaked forever and even if it was, how does it evade radar? How does it completely evade the trillions of people in coruscant? Some one is sure to have seen it considering the immense population

Originally posted by Utrigita

1. used the earlier mentioned force technique to shield the ship. Ore utilized the cloaking field that Thrawn found on Wayland to shield the ship.
No ship that size in the 25 thousand years of star wars inuniverse history has it ever been shown that a 19 000 ship can be cloaked with a cloaking generator, neither has any sources stated the SSD clases can be cloaked. Seeing that the lesser smaller star destoryers has never been shown to cloak, I don't see why the bigger ones like the lusankya and executor can

Originally posted by Utrigita

2. Executed all that knew about it.
Wow so he executed the thousands who piloted the ship and the inhabitants of coruscant, i guess its no wonder why advent called you one of the most idiotic posters in KMC
Originally posted by Utrigita

And then again Starwars.com Databank says something entirely different.

The Lusankya was actually a functional Super Star Destroyer secretly constructed beneath the towering skylines of Coruscant.

Again even if it was constructed, it would have taken years and if palpatine were to cloak the ship, how would have the engineers been able to see what the were building!? And it takes thousands to build a ship this big for your information, did he execute all of them too? No, What about the people who saw the ship getting built? The millions of inhabitants? Did they get executed too? No.

Advice: Shut the hell up