Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDAnd aparantly sidious DOES have a technique to defend, the fallanasi technique. Oh i forgot, nihilus doesn't have a defence to his own technique and sidious may very well use it against him
Being superior is not the correct answer. Unless Sidious knows a defensive technique that can counter the affect of "Force Sever" technique, he would be in trouble.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDProve a force sever works on a superior force user, it took so damm long for 3 jedi masters to try to sever the exiles connections and even that didn't work despite waiting for 20 seconds.
And [b]ROTS Sidious is not very good at defending against powerful attacks. A simple Force Push from Yoda send him flying accross the room, as an example. And "Force Sever" technique is far more lethal or dangerous.[/B]
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDLike? Sidious knows techniques that nihilus has never even heard of before and thus he doesn't have a defence to them whereas sidious knows every force technique and every defence
And Nihilus also knows some good offensive techniques..
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Sidious is surely better then Nihilus but to what extent, we can't say for sure. Because whatever Nihilus does, he is also really good at it.
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This is an assumption. Just because X performed a feat, it does not means that Y would also do the same.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDincarnation of Sidious, I doubt that he has demonstrated this level of power by that time.
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Since this thread is about [b]ROTS
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDWill do
Check the title of this thread carefully. It refers to [b]ROTS Sidious.[/B]
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDAnd in G-canon we never see sidious kill anybody with lightning despite the fact he sent a full blast of lightning at mace windu despite the fact that windu did not even try to put up any defence, its still canon legend that yoda lifted a mountain. Even the part where vader uses force lightning in SOTME which is generally regarded as non canon because it contradicts several sources, yet it is now canon because that event has been recorded in the new essential chronology and the novel rise and fall of darth vader .
And Yoda did that feat in Star Wars Cartoon, in which the powers of the Jedi are massively exaggerated. In the G-canon AOTC, Yoda was having a hard time in preventing a crane to fall on the two ill-fated Jedi. .
Get what im trying to interpret?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDThere also seems to be conflict for a few characters too... sidious? vader? yoda?. Sorry but what they did is canon, not a damm thing you can do about that seeing it already has the canon status
So it seems to be that there is some sort of conflict about the power level of Yoda among the canon sources..
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDYou don't. Simply because we know whats its capable off, it masks your force bond, your opponent can sense/see your force bond nor can they touch or do anything to it. Tholme did this to hide from vos, he hid his force sensitivity and vos was unable to feel it, sense it what so ever.
But than it is untested in combat so far and I would like to see the benefit of that technique in combat situation for a better idea...
And going by what you said when did Nihilus ever use Tk in a combat situation? Hmmm? Yet we know its darn effective, same for the fallanasi technique, we don't actually have to see it in battle seeing that we know the nature of this defence.
Now we don't have to put our hand in a tank full of piranhas when we already know what they are capable off right?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDSo? He touched luke so many times yet nothing happened, oh right i guess this proves my point you can't cut some one off the force whom is superior to you.Caedus has shown the ability to disconnect a person from the Force by merely touching that person. He probably did this to Ben.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDOkDE Sidious is obviously very powerful. Are we not talking about [b]ROTS
Sidious in this thread?In case of DE Sidious, I agree.
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDWhy so? Vaders inferior apprentice could crash a star destroyer with little effort, so why can't ROTS sidious?
But in case of [b]ROTS Sidious, I can't say for sure that whether he can win easily. And in a pure TK contest, Nihilus can defeat him.[/B]
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDIt was a figure of speech, but the fact remains DE sidious > nihilus
How can you say that Sidious commands unlimited power? Does he have infinite number of Midi-chlorians in him?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDDoesn't matter weather he masks his connection and physical body infront of him or not, weather nihilus sees him do it makes no difference, as he wouldn't be able to predict his next moves, sense his presence or see him.
And sneaking behind an opponent is not Sidious' way of fighting his enemies. Though if he can mask his connection with the Force, he might pull of that move, considering that Nihilus is not looking in his direction.
And why wouldn't sidious use necessary techniques when it becomes a necessity? Especially against an extremely dangerous opponent?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDDid you actually read what i posted? I said as if he disconnected from the force . I didn't say he could
Sidious cannot fully disconnect himself from the Force. You are confusing Force Cloak ability with complete disconnection from the Force..
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDWhat waves? Oh i forgot he wouldn't see/sense where nihilus is so how is he going to attack and kill what he cant see and sense?
If the waves of Nihilus' main attack touches him, he will be doomed.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDYes. Nihilus > all of them
Those three oponents were weaker?.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDShe defeated them under CIRCUMSTANCES. Is she powerful? Yes, but more powerful than nihilus? No
1) Jedi Exile:Jedi Exile is actually the main hero of KOTOR II and she must be damn good because even the 3 powerful Sith Lords failed to destroy her.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDSo? Give bulter swan 10 years to study darth vader and even she wouldn't kill him. Visas is in no way even half as powerful as nihilus.
She was his apprentice and betrayed him. She was aiding Exile in combat and she knew Nihilus very well.
Vader has been with sidious for 20 over years, i guess going by your logic it means vader can fcuk up sidious
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDAgain he was killed under circumstances. Had he been fed and exile not a wound, he would have easily killed them.
So are you trying to say that the combined power of these 3 people would not be very significant? No matter poor Nihilus fell.
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You are ignoring a few other important events that also make it clear to us that Nihilus was indeed a powerhouse and during the duels, he mean't business.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDHe sent her flying back, and nihilus is far superior to traya. Did i ever say nihilus is weak? Of all the kotor characters i would say sion is the most overrated piece of shit
Nihilus versus Traya is a good example to consider in this regard.He effortlessly send Darth Traya (who herself was very powerful and was the mentor of Nihilus and Revan) flying in the air with a flick of his hand. And not only this but he also prevented her from using the Force through his Force Sever ability.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDNever denied that, like i said all we have seen of his impressive ness is TK and his force breaking ability.
On numerous situations, we have seen that powerful Jedi or Sith Lords use TK a lot in combat situations to subdue their enemies. [b]Count Dooku and Darth Vader are two prime examples of this.So Nihilus was good at those things that were actually really useful in combat situations. And than much about the Nihilus is shrouded in mystery.
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDThat is not the point, the point is a superior force user can cancel out an inferior force users powers. Like how master fay cancelled out assaji's force crush
Since when Forte and Kulka were close to Darth Vader in terms of power or had demonstrated very impressive Force moves like Darth Vader could?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDPure TK? ROTS sidious vs nihilus, i would say nihilus. But DE sidious? Then DE wins
Since this thread is about [b]ROTS Sidious, so now you decide the victor in case of pure TK contest among the two powerful Sith Lords. [/B]