Also?
War Hulk's got a freakin aura around him. An aura that bricks don't have unless there's something else acting behind the scenes.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9222/incrediblehulk457p05qe3.jpg
Celestial tech only amped his strength, my ass. 🙄
Show me where it's stated that Hulk has unlimited stamina? He was freaking depleted during the sentry fight and that is as you claim his best incarnation. His foot is clearly going backwards from the foot imprint in front to the rocks building up behind his foot as if he was being pushed backwards. YOu can speculate all you want but this explanation is just as valid
Hulk didn't stop Juggernaut. It is clear by the close up of the feet and then Hulk saying, "Nothing stops the Juggernaut? Fine. Keep going."
If thats not enough the writer said that Hulk didn't stop his forward movement. The only thing Hulk did was prevent Juggernaut from finishing the fight by bfring him.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Also?War Hulk's got a freakin aura around him. An aura that bricks don't have unless there's something else acting behind the scenes.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9222/incrediblehulk457p05qe3.jpgCelestial tech only amped his strength, my ass. 🙄
Actually War hulks aura was similar or shud i say exactly the same as the aura WWH had after mieks statement but only much smaller. So u see hulk who is a " brick" does has manifested the same type of aura without anything acting behind the scenes except anger.
Originally posted by MetalmanxUh. Juggernaut was trapped under rubble back in Korea. He was also trapped in concrete. As for the Gamma Corps, did you even read the issues? Did you know that they used a poison designed for him to reduce his power levels ini order to fight him? The same way Elixir shut off his healing factor so that the New X-Men could actually have a chance at hurting him?
War Hulk with celestial-amping stopped Juggernaut. You can interpret that any way you want, but then it contradicts what Juggernaut is. He can't be stopped with physical force unless it's backed with some other medium, such as magic or celestial tech.Regardless. It's pure speculation on both our parts as Apocalypse never clearly states what the celestial tech did. However, one explanation does make more sense than the other when factoring in the lack of proof.
I have never seen Juggernaut unable to lift/pill/push/etc. some object before. Juggy has as much strength as he wants. It's been stated by editors and comics to date have shown him without a strength limit. Therefore, unlimited.
Just because a similar character doesn't have the same feats as one exponentially more popular, doesn't mean it's not true. For example, we haven't seen Gladiator brace a 150 billion ton mountain on his back before. But do we doubt that he can do it?
God. The Gamma Corps took out WWHulk. Why is there this much fight against Juggernaut doing the same when he's ridiculously stronger than the entire Gamma Corps?
Holding the use of a specialized poison to depower WWH against him has about as much credence as holding the use of Mjolnir's antimagic vortex to depower Juggs against him. Juggs doesn't have Gamma Corps technology in his pocket. WWH does not have Mjolnir in his hands. And I am standing here belaboring the obviousness of this pointless argument.
Oh and I can't see your "aura" scan at all. Please reupload it.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Uh. Juggernaut was trapped under rubble back in Korea. He was also trapped in concrete. As for the Gamma Corps, did you even read the issues? Did you know that they used a poison designed for him to reduce his power levels ini order to fight him? The same way Elixir shut off his healing factor so that the New X-Men could actually have a chance at hurting him?Holding the use of a specialized poison to depower WWH against him has about as much credence as holding the use of Mjolnir's antimagic vortex to depower Juggs against him. Juggs doesn't have Gamma Corps technology in his pocket. WWH does not have Mjolnir in his hands. And I am standing here belaboring the obviousness of this pointless argument.
Oh and I can't see your "aura" scan at all. Please reupload it.
You know the Spider-man trapped in Concrete incident is just bad writing and should be ignored......years of history shows that nothing like that or some rubble (although I do not recall the instance you are talking about) is just bad writing.......
Just saying.........
Originally posted by RageOfTheGods
You know the Spider-man trapped in Concrete incident is just bad writing and should be ignored......years of history shows that nothing like that or some rubble (although I do not recall the instance you are talking about) is just bad writing.......Just saying.........
Plus Juggs has instantly busted out of Steel before.
The way he was trapped in the concrete was that it was still wet. He had to wait for it to dry to bust out of it.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
its simple mathematics, Hulks strength increases exponentially, eventually juggs will get k.oed
When has Juggernaut ever been physically knocked out?
The only time WWH's strength was shown to increase was right towards the end, when he decided to crack the entire east coast with a stomp.
Even if the Juggs/WWH fight was initially a stalemate (which is not my opinion), the fighter without unlimited stamina would have lost...eventually. If Hulk had unlimited stamina he wouldn't have burned out against Sentry. If he had the ability to increase his strength by getting angrier, likewise, he'd have beaten Sentry eventually (who's blows were dealing out serious damage and no doubt pissing him off).
Without BFR, Juggs beats WWH.
Originally posted by Enyalus
When has Juggernaut ever been physically knocked out?The only time WWH's strength was shown to increase was right towards the end, when he decided to crack the entire east coast with a stomp.
Even if the Juggs/WWH fight was initially a stalemate (which is not my opinion), the fighter without unlimited stamina would have lost...eventually. If Hulk had unlimited stamina he wouldn't have burned out against Sentry. If he had the ability to increase his strength by getting angrier, likewise, he'd have beaten Sentry eventually (who's blows were dealing out serious damage and no doubt pissing him off).
Without BFR, Juggs beats WWH.
Without BFr i think Jugs beats WWH but i dont think u shud call into question hulks ability to increase his strength by getting angrier. This is something that has been established throughout his history and is really not evn debatable.
And there are clear cases of Hulk using that ability...except in the World War Hulk arc. It might be that because he was more rational and calculating, he was never able to generate that primal rage which increases his strength.
Furthermore, before the meditation that Hiroim taught Hulk, he says something to the effect of Hulk needing to be able to tap into that rage at will, and he'd show him how (with the meditation). I don't have a scanner, or scans. But it's probably towards the end of Planet Hulk.
So, if he's channeling all of that rage continuously throughout World War Hulk, that would explain him not becoming visibly more powerful when angry...except, like I said, at the very end.
Originally posted by EnyalusWhen has World War Hulk ever been physically knocked out?
When has Juggernaut ever been physically knocked out?The only time WWH's strength was shown to increase was right towards the end, when he decided to crack the entire east coast with a stomp.
Even if the Juggs/WWH fight was initially a stalemate (which is not my opinion), the fighter without unlimited stamina would have lost...eventually. If Hulk had unlimited stamina he wouldn't have burned out against Sentry. If he had the ability to increase his strength by getting angrier, likewise, he'd have beaten Sentry eventually (who's blows were dealing out serious damage and no doubt pissing him off).
Without BFR, Juggs beats WWH.
There were many times when WWH's strnegth was shown to increase, his skin was harder for Wolverine to cut, he became enraged after he was soaked in special napalm, and as Dr. Strange said, he became angrier with everything he saw by the time Herc's team came into play. Oh, and when he went absolutely ballistic at discovering Miek's betrayal.
Even if the Juggs/WWH fight was initially a stalemate (which is my opinion), the fighter without unlimited strength would have lost...eventually. If Juggs was unstoppable he wouldn't have been halted in his advance by War Hulk. If he had the ability to be invulnerable by his magic, likewise, he'd never been knocked unconscious by Onslaught (who was a pre-amped Onslaught and was winded when he tried to murder the X-Men and Bishop absorbed the blast) or by an amped Bishop who absorbed the power of a city and blasted him unconscious.
Without BFR, WWH stalemates Juggs.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Yeah i know i guess that don't teach kids to ready anymore? 😆 Plus calling me a shmuck is slightly harsh don't you think? I mean i can be an ass but i think i have a fairly decent brain 😮
^ It's actually sad that a fair percentage of forum browsers won't even understand your reference. Oh well. Schmuck.biscuits
Originally posted by iceman24567People are asses all the time. Hiding that you're an ass behind a thinly veiled flame like "I guess we'll have to agree some people are blind" is neither clever nor sophisticated. It's being an ass. And being a bad one at that. Next time, drop the posturing and just flame. K? Schmuck.
Yeah i know i guess that don't teach kids to ready anymore? 😆 Plus calling me a shmuck is slightly harsh don't you think? I mean i can be an ass but i think i have a fairly decent brain 😮
