Originally posted by Estacado
Why the **** is it cosmic?
I listed it as cosmic, because characters who use cosmic energy are often shown to have a nimbus of energy around them when they do so. Check out scans of Thanos' various battles, when he amps himself up there is a purple nimbus that surrounds his fists and / or body. Check out the scans where Drax killed Thanos, and note how Drax also had a nimbus of green energy surrounding him.
It is also known that both Sentry and Hulk aren't mutants. If they are not mutants, yet have incredible powers, then where does this source of power come from that shows itself in a nimbus of colored light? The only other source of power in such cases I have seen is mystic; such as when Juggernaut in the above scans was pulling energy from Cytorrak. Therefore by process of elimination Hulk is either drawing mystic energy or cosmic energy, both of which are similar in nature, except that mystic energy comes from another entity typically.
There has never been shown an entity that gives it's powers to Hulk or Sentry; therefore by process of elimination we can assume that more likely than not, they are tapping into the ambient sources of energy which exist throughout Marvel universe. The Eternals do a similar thing as well; they tap into ambient sources of cosmic power in order to gain their powers. So the likeness is there.
One last point I have to make to back up the cosmic energy statement. Celestial technology make Hulk exceedingly strong and he adapted to it rather easily, tapping into reserves of power which he had not previously tapped into. Celestials are also the ones that created the Eternals. Thanos himself is an Eternal. They all show similar energy signatures. The likeness is there; it just has never been stated on-panel. There is currently no real explanation for where else Hulk is getting his power from. In the past it mentioned that Hulk was drawing his energy from in between dimensions. Celestials also draw their energy from the same source - Hyperspace. It's the same energy that Hyperstorm was drawing off of as well. So we have a precedent here, it's just never been analyzed fully by the likes of Reed Richards and such. Even the Beyonder stated that the Hulk was drawing off of an infinite source of energy.
Originally posted by Estacado
So now Hulk is a cosmic.....
That is the current idea that seems to be surfacing IMO, since we know he is not a mutant.
We know that Hulk can subconsciously tap into an unlimited source of energy, we've seen it now on several occasions. What other suggestions besides Hyperspace would you say that he is getting the energy from, shown in these scans?
http://img137.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96095_wwh033_122_158lo.jpg
http://img143.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96097_wwh034_122_1122lo.jpg
http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96103_wwh035_122_1065lo.jpg
If you have a better idea, by all means I'm open minded I'd like to hear it.
Originally posted by severancewrong.
I guarantee you Bruce lee did not hit as hard as Mike Tyson and I guarantee you Mike was stronger. So size and strength do have a large part to play in hitting hard. Bruce Lee had speed (strength to bodyweight ratio high) and technique.Size and strength to body weight ratio and technique = how hard you hit. Hulk wins in all three of these categories he hits harder
if it was a stength/lifting contest, and I showed you that Thor can hit harder than Hulk, therefore he must be able to lift more, you would be arguing FOR my point, and saying that, just because Thor can hit harder doesn't mean he can lift more.
Originally posted by Kutulu
That is the current idea that seems to be surfacing IMO, since we know he is not a mutant.We know that Hulk can subconsciously tap into an unlimited source of energy, we've seen it now on several occasions. What other suggestions besides Hyperspace would you say that he is getting the energy from, shown in these scans?
http://img137.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96095_wwh033_122_158lo.jpg
http://img143.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96097_wwh034_122_1122lo.jpg
http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96103_wwh035_122_1065lo.jpgIf you have a better idea, by all means I'm open minded I'd like to hear it.
he takes steroids?? 😛
Originally posted by Kutulu
Therefore by process of elimination Hulk is either drawing mystic energy or cosmic energy, both of which are similar in nature, except that mystic energy comes from another entity typically.There has never been shown an entity that gives it's powers to Hulk or Sentry; therefore by process of elimination we can assume that more likely than not, they are tapping into the ambient sources of energy which exist throughout Marvel universe. The Eternals do a similar thing as well; they tap into ambient sources of cosmic power in order to gain their powers. So the likeness is there.
One last point I have to make to back up the cosmic energy statement. Celestial technology make Hulk exceedingly strong and he adapted to it rather easily, tapping into reserves of power which he had not previously tapped into. Celestials are also the ones that created the Eternals. Thanos himself is an Eternal. They all show similar energy signatures. The likeness is there; it just has never been stated on-panel. There is currently no real explanation for where else Hulk is getting his power from. In the past it mentioned that Hulk was drawing his energy from in between dimensions. Celestials also draw their energy from the same source - Hyperspace. It's the same energy that Hyperstorm was drawing off of as well. So we have a precedent here, it's just never been analyzed fully by the likes of Reed Richards and such. Even the Beyonder stated that the Hulk was drawing off of an infinite source of energy.
I agree that the Hulk is an energy manipulator. He just doesn't know it. A lot of his bigger feats can ONLY be chalked up to more than just phsyical strength.
Originally posted by Horrificus
wrong.
just because somebody is stonger does not equate to a better puncher.
what Hulk can lift, does not directly have anything to do with his punching.if it was a stength/lifting contest, and I showed you that Thor can hit harder than Hulk, therefore he must be able to lift more, you would be arguing FOR my point, and saying that, just because Thor can hit harder doesn't mean he can lift more.
please read my whole post I said that strength is part to do with it. The other parts are:
technique which WWH should be superior to juggs. (Bruce Lee hit hard cos he had technique)
speed which is a corollary of strength to body weight ratio. If hulk is stronger and they weigh about the same he should have the edge here. (Bruce Lee's speed came from the fact he weighed about 130lbs but was as strong as a 180lb man)
Originally posted by SuppMan
size does matter.. a big mass has a greater potential than a small mass. so a small mass could hit with more force if the big mass is like at 1% full potential, but both at 100%, the big mass wins. but in comic world, does mass have anything to do with it????
uhh... i agree? I think?
Originally posted by Horrificus
I agree that the Hulk is an energy manipulator. He just doesn't know it. A lot of his bigger feats can ONLY be chalked up to more than just phsyical strength.
People tend to forget that hulk is like a giant walking gamma battery he is always creating or giving off gamma energy.
