Classic Juggernaut v.s. WWH

Started by Symmetric Chaos17 pages
Originally posted by Galan007
Juggs.

Hater schmoll

Although personally I do think that the Hulk which appeared after he learned of Miek's betrayal would be able to stop Cain.

Originally posted by Kutulu
We saw that War Hulk was able to defeat the Juggernaut by using his green energy aura. We also saw that during WWH (only during issue 5, mind you) that Hulk's green energy aura grew so great that it was taller than the buildings in the city and was surrounding the entire city.

Given extrapolation, that would indicate that during the ending of WWH5 when he lost control, his strength level would be exponentially greater than it was when he became War Hulk.

Classic Juggernaut was also winded the time Professor Hulk had his mind tampered with and Hulk punched Juggernaut to break from the illusion, we see classic Juggernaut on the ground on all fours with a surprised look on his face.

lol...

All of the Hulk's energy and he can only break 1 planet?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Hater schmoll

Although personally I do think that the Hulk which appeared after he learned of Miek's betrayal would be able to stop Cain.

Nah,
I'm not a Hulk hater whatsoever -- I just feel that classic Juggs truly would beat him.

srug

Nobody wins this.

Doesn't matter whether or not the Hulk uses energy, unless he can get the Juggernaut with telepathy, he's not winning. Cain won't win either.

I refuse to quantify War Hulk's stopping Juggernaut as a feat for Hulk. That was entirely due to Apocalypse's celestial tech.

Hulk will not beat Juggs in a fight. But at this point, if Hulk was as pissed as he was at the end, I don't know if Juggs can put him down. Maybe after a month or so.......😖hifty:

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I refuse to quantify War Hulk's stopping Juggernaut as a feat for Hulk. That was entirely due to Apocalypse's celestial tech.

Hulk will not beat Juggs in a fight. But at this point, if Hulk was as pissed as he was at the end, I don't know if Juggs can put him down. Maybe after a month or so.......😖hifty:

INvulnerable.

Why do people still do the "Classic Juggernaut" thing as if current Juggernaut isn't operating at identical levels?

Originally posted by Larceny
Why do people still do the "Classic Juggernaut" thing as if current Juggernaut isn't operating at identical levels?

Because he isnt at identical levels....classic juggernaut was a monster,he mowed through top tiers all the time and preety easily at that,no one writes him how he is supposed to be written anymore.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Because he isnt at identical levels....classic juggernaut was a monster,he mowed through top tiers all the time and preety easily at that,no one writes him how he is supposed to be written anymore.

That may be because since he's regained his power he's appeared in a single comic and has had a single fight in which he briefly had the upper hand against WWH.

Originally posted by Larceny
That may be because since he's regained his power he's appeared in a single comic and has had a single fight in which he briefly had the upper hand against WWH.

Well thats why we say classic juggs isnt it since he has feats,I guess current juggs and classic should be the same but whatever.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Well thats why we say classic juggs isnt it since he has feats,I guess current juggs and classic should be the same but whatever.

They are the same. Both avatars of Cyttorkas unlimited power.

Originally posted by Larceny
They are the same. Both avatars of Cyttorkas unlimited power.
Juggs back in the day was just written better -- [from what we've seen at least].

Originally posted by Galan007
Juggs back in the day was just written better -- [from what we've seen at least].

He currently has only one appearance. It's hard to peg how he's been written on a single appearance.

Originally posted by Larceny
He currently has only one appearance. It's hard to peg how he's been written on a single appearance.
That's why I said "from what we've seen at least." 😛

Juggernaut had strength + his ability to forward with nothing supposedly be able to stop him. The Juggernaut had his down by the head and Hulk broke out easily

I'm normally not one to call others on not reading comics but there are clearly a mass of people out there who didn't actually read the War Hulk/Juggernaut fight.

Apocalypse specifically stated that the fight was a test of *Celestial tech* versus the X-Men's most powerful non-mutant foe. Death Wolverine was performing some quite non-Wolverine feats. Celestial tech was the key. Hulk was merely the vessel.

But yeah, with the return of his full power all those training sessions in the Danger Room have gone out the window, though you couldn't tell he trained at all by his appearances in New Excalibre, and WWH would win because of tactics. Raw power would probably figure into his victory as much as it did into Spider-Man's victory.

Originally posted by Galan007
Juggs back in the day was just written better -- [from what we've seen at least].

Was Juggernaut written better back in the day or are other characters written better now? How many people have wondered why people don't Don Zimmer Juggernaut's momentum elsewhere?

Originally posted by Kutulu
Classic Juggernaut was also winded the time Professor Hulk had his mind tampered with and Hulk punched Juggernaut to break from the illusion, we see classic Juggernaut on the ground on all fours with a surprised look on his face.

Can you see Juggernaut's face in that panel?

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Was Juggernaut written better back in the day or are other characters written better now? How many people have wondered why people don't Don Zimmer Juggernaut's momentum elsewhere?

Can you see Juggernaut's face in that panel?

Originally posted by Kutulu

I dont see a suprised juggernaut....

What happen to the small helmet that covers Juggernaut's head?

And how do you knock the air out of someone who doesn't need to breathe?