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Started by Shakyamunison10 pages

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That's a presumptuous statement.

One of them is.

I believe you are wrong.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I believe you are wrong.

Why do you belong to a religon if you think its wrong?

"I don't think that Jesus is really God's son, but I still call myself a Christian".....doesn't make much sense does it?

Actually you don't need a true religion. You just need a truth. And I suppose then you'd have the hypothetical true religion.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Why do you belong to a religon if you think its wrong?

"I don't think that Jesus is really God's son, but I still call myself a Christian".....doesn't make much sense does it?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Because Buddhism is right for me.

If all religions are equally wrong, then they must be equally right.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually you don't need a true religion. You just need a truth. And I suppose then you'd have the hypothetical true religion.

Truth is relative, therefore there cannot be an absolute truth.

Which implies that they're all equally wrong.

And that still didn't answer my question.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Truth is relative, therefore there cannot be an absolute truth.
You do not know that. Personally I believe in an absolute truth actually.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Which implies that they're all equally wrong.

And that still didn't answer my question.

What is your question?

Originally posted by Bardock42
You do not know that. Personally I believe in an absolute truth actually.

OK. I don't care.

Now we must remember that Bardock has his own religion...........

Hey, sweety?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
OK. I don't care.
Yeah, you care about making stupid unfounded statements and behaving like a retarded hypocrite.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Now we must remember that Bardock has his own religion...........

Hey, sweety?

Hardly.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, you care about making stupid unfounded statements and behaving like a retarded hypocrite. Hardly.

Again, you don't understand.

What I am saying is that you can believe what you wish. I am not bothered in any way.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Again, you don't understand.

What I am saying is that you can believe what you wish. I am not bothered in any way.

That's a) not what you were saying, b) of no matter to the conversation at hand and c) your trollish attempt at doding any reasonable points presented to you.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's a) not what you were saying, b) of no matter to the conversation at hand and c) your trollish attempt at doding any reasonable points presented to you.

That is what I was saying. I was simply putting it as hard as I could because you do not deserve to be treated civilly. You are a rude person with few redeeming qualities. The reason for this is because all you do is insult me. If you can do nothing but insult me, I can treat you like a turd.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is what I was saying. I was simply putting it as hard as I could because you do not deserve to be treated civilly. You are a rude person with few redeeming qualities. The reason for this is because all you do is insult me. If you can do nothing but insult me, I can treat you like a turd.
No, you said something else. What you say and think you say are not the same things. You, just plainly, said something completely different.

I am not only insulting you (*******), I also give points and reasons you disregard time and time again, which leads me to calling you names (idiot), as I am frustrated with your dodging ways (retard).

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, you said something else. What you say and think you say are not the same things. You, just plainly, said something completely different.

I am not only insulting you (*******), I also give points and reasons you disregard time and time again, which leads me to calling you names (idiot), as I am frustrated with your dodging ways (retard).

As soon as you insult me, you fail. You could have the best points in the world, but when you insult me, you fail.

Do you still not get it? People will turn you off and not listen to you if you insult them. That is a fact of life.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
As soon as you insult me, you fail. You could have the best points in the world, but when you insult me, you fail.

Do you still not get it? People will turn you off and not listen to you if you insult them. That is a fact of life.

No, just idioty, like you, will. And I feel better when calling morons, like you, morons, moron.

Though your trolling really frustrates me, so I think I will just ignore you for now. I mean, most people know you are a ****ing idiot, no one needs me to point it out, a little chat with you is the best convincing one could expect.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, just idioty, like you, will. And I feel better when calling morons, like you, morons, moron.

Though your trolling really frustrates me, so I think I will just ignore you for now. I mean, most people know you are a ****ing idiot, no one needs me to point it out, a little chat with you is the best convincing one could expect.

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"Equal" and "same" are not the same adjective.

Example: Men and women are not the same, but they are equal.

I agree with Shaky 👆 All religions are equal, even though they are not the same. One religion cannot possibly work for every single person. That is why religions vary. That is why there are sects.

That is also why some people of a religion will have doubts, while others of that same particular religion will swear that it works, or that it is completely true.

Shakymunison's point about Buddhism not being "completely" true is one which Bardock and Quiero do not understand, so let me explain:

Siddhartha Gautama-the Buddha- has made many claims. His claims about mental and physical health prove to be true, as meditation and clarity of mind have huge positive effects on one's vitality and health.

His claim about mental suffering is also true. Desire- actually, obsessive desire (not just impulse or curiosity) cause a great deal of suffering, and learning to let go is the healthiest thing one can do.

There is a lot about Buddhism I discovered to be true, in regard to behavior and quality of life.

However, remember...Buddha also made other claims: Anatta- No Self. The claim that we do not have a soul. However, this also can clash with the concept of Reincarnation. When asked directly if the "self" truly exists or not, Siddhartha would not answer. To directly DENY the existance of self, is to still REGARD the existance of self. To put a "positive" or "negative" on the existance of self/soul is to suggest that it exists in the first place.

Buddha may be wrong about those things...and if he is, it is not great dilemma. Buddha taught that the "mysteries" of the universe do not matter. What matters, above all else, is the alleviation of suffering. The ultamate respect and compassion for all living things.

Any question, debate, or conflict that is not related to the cessation of suffering, or the treatment of people/animals is not a question/debate/conflict worth tackling with such stress. Those questions, according to the Buddha, are not important.

That is the basis of Buddhism. Treatment of yourself, treatment of other people, and having peace between mind, "self" and body.

It works for Shakymunison. It's been working for me little by little by little.

That is why people like he and myself adhere to Buddhism, even though it may not be completely accurate.

i respect any religion/faith/belief that promotes right conduct. unfortunate that the term 'right' is different for every individual.