Interesting...

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
"Equal" and "same" are not the same adjective.

Example: Men and women are not the same, but they are equal.

I agree with Shaky 👆 All religions are equal, even though they are not the same. One religion cannot possibly work for every single person. That is why religions vary. That is why there are sects.

That is also why some people of a religion will have doubts, while others of that same particular religion will swear that it works, or that it is completely true.

Shakymunison's point about Buddhism not being "completely" true is one which Bardock and Quiero do not understand, so let me explain:

Siddhartha Gautama-the Buddha- has made many claims. His claims about mental and physical health prove to be true, as meditation and clarity of mind have huge positive effects on one's vitality and health.

His claim about mental suffering is also true. Desire- actually, obsessive desire (not just impulse or curiosity) cause a great deal of suffering, and learning to let go is the healthiest thing one can do.

There is a lot about Buddhism I discovered to be true, in regard to behavior and quality of life.

However, remember...Buddha also made other claims: Anatta- No Self. The claim that we do not have a soul. However, this also can clash with the concept of Reincarnation. When asked directly if the "self" truly exists or not, Siddhartha would not answer. To directly DENY the existance of self, is to still REGARD the existance of self. To put a "positive" or "negative" on the existance of self/soul is to suggest that it exists in the first place.

Buddha may be wrong about those things...and if he is, it is not great dilemma. Buddha taught that the "mysteries" of the universe do not matter. What matters, above all else, is the alleviation of suffering. The ultamate respect and compassion for all living things.

Any question, debate, or conflict that is not related to the cessation of suffering, or the treatment of people/animals is not a question/debate/conflict worth tackling with such stress. Those questions, according to the Buddha, are [b]not important.

That is the basis of Buddhism. Treatment of yourself, treatment of other people, and having peace between mind, "self" and body.

It works for Shakymunison. It's been working for me little by little by little.

That is why people like he and myself adhere to Buddhism, even though it may not be completely accurate. [/B]

I agree, however, if truth is relative, and there is no absolute truth, then it would be wrong to think that Buddhism was absolutely true. Buddhism is relatively true.

No, Buddhism is absolutely wrong.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, Buddhism is absolutely wrong.

Why do you think that ?

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Why do you think that ?

You didn't understand me, I meant Buddhism is just not right in any way.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You didn't understand me, I meant Buddhism is just not right in any way.

Explain

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Explain

Originally posted by Bardock42
Lets get back on topic please.

We are on topic. This thread is discussing Truth and Religion.

If you feel that Buddhism (or Christianity, or Hinduism, etc.) isn't correct, or non truthful, for whatever reason, then please explain why.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
We are on topic. This thread is discussing Truth and Religion.

If you feel that Buddhism (or Christianity, or Hinduism, etc.) isn't correct, or non truthful, for whatever reason, then please explain why.

Do you think all Religions are equally right or wrong? Or the same in other ways? And in what ways?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think you are dragging it off. You seem to have had a different topic in mind. So, Buddhism is absolutely wrong. And lets leave it at that.

Okay. But if you could PM me on your spare time as to why you think it is absolutely wrong, please do. I am curious to know why you think that.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Do you think all Religions are equally right or wrong? Or the same in other ways? And in what ways?

Not equally.

I personally feel that Buddhism is far more correct than Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. Hinduism is the root of Buddhism, but Hinduism has its own conflicts to weed out. I also think Wicca is pretty close, but they also incoorporate mythology into thier beliefs.

However, I do not feel that Buddhism has reality "solved" or totally figured out.

I feel it touches what we need to know, but barely gets through the surface of what the truth to reality can be.

I will explain in another post, since as of now, I am being rushed off my school's computer lab lol--sorry, i promise you i will address this soon !

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, Buddhism is absolutely wrong.

There is no absolute wrong just as there is no absolute right. Perhaps Buddhism is relatively wrong for you, but how could you say it was relatively wrong for me?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Lets get back on topic please.

I think what is really going on here is that you were trying to bate me, but SOD started asking you questions you could not answer.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think you are dragging it off. You seem to have had a different topic in mind. So, Buddhism is absolutely wrong. And lets leave it at that…

Too bad SOD let you off the hook.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Okay. But if you could PM me on your spare time as to why you think it is absolutely wrong, please do. I am curious to know why you think that....

Friend, don’t waist your time. I would be surprised if he PM’ed you.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no absolute wrong just as there is no absolute right. Perhaps Buddhism is relatively wrong for you, but how could you say it was relatively wrong for me?

I think what is really going on here is that you were trying to bate me, but SOD started asking you questions you could not answer.

Too bad SOD let you off the hook.

Friend, don’t waist your time. I would be surprised if he PM’ed you.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Bait. You mean I wanted to bait you. There's really no need to bate you any further.

Good, you are giving up.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Good, you are giving up.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What is your question?

Ok, you believe Buddhism to be the only valid religion, in other words, the only correct spiritual path, right? Now if the answer is no, why on earth do you practice it?

That's no different than me adhering to and practicing Christianity WHILE acutally believing that it's no more or less correct than the Ancient Roman religion. It would make no sense, and be a big waste of time.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Ok, you believe Buddhism to be the only valid religion, in other words, the only correct spiritual path, right? Now if the answer is no, why on earth do you practice it?

My God is not better then your God, and your God is not better then my God.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That's no different than me adhering to and practicing Christianity WHILE acutally believing that it's no more or less correct than the Ancient Roman religion. It would make no sense, and be a big waste of time.

In my eyes, all religions are equal. I believe that if you followed the Ancient Roman religions or Christianity or Buddhism, and you are true to yourself, you would gain the same thing in the end. It all depends on you. I could never be a Christian again. Not after all the evil I have seen, in my personal life, form Christians onto Christians. Perhaps Buddhism would equally not be right for you.

If believing in something that cannot be supported by science helps you from wasting your time, then that is what is right for you. However, I could never believe in a supernatural world, because it takes away from the absolute beauty of the universe.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
My God is not better then your God, and your God is not better then my God.

You don't have a god, remember?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

In my eyes, all religions are equal. I believe that if you followed the Ancient Roman religions or Christianity or Buddhism, and you are true to yourself, you would gain the same thing in the end.

Are you sure you're not a Hindu? Because Hinduism is the only religion that believes that "no matter who you pray to, all your mail ends up in the same mailbox".

But that point of view is simply flawed because the Koran telling it's followers that likening other gods unto God will not take you to the same place as sacrificing a goat to Zeus.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

If believing in something that cannot be supported by science helps you from wasting your time, then that is what is right for you.

The fact the that the world's greatest scientists don't know or can't prove where life came from or how the universe came into being is what implies to me that God exists.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
You don't have a god, remember?

Did you not get my point? People have died over the argument of my god is better then your god. Wars have been waged, and the innocent slaughtered over such stupidity.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Are you sure you're not a Hindu? Because Hinduism is the only religion that believes that "no matter who you pray to, all your mail ends up in the same mailbox".

All “mail” ends up in the mind of the person praying.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
But that point of view is simply flawed because the Koran telling it's followers that likening other gods unto God will not take you to the same place as sacrificing a goat to Zeus.

Why believe the Koran? The Koran or the bible are not better then any other book.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The fact the that the world's greatest scientists don't know or can't prove where life came from or how the universe came into being is what implies to me that God exists.

I can answer those two questions easily. A: The universe is alive; Life manifests were ever the conditions are correct. B: The universe has always been in one form or another. The big bang was just the last one.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Did you not get my point? People have died over the argument of my god is better then your god. Wars have been waged, and the innocent slaughtered over such stupidity.

Hitler, Stalin and Mao combined have killed many more people than the religious conflicts combined.

People killed in the Inquistion: 2,000. People killed in the Salem Witch Trials: 18. 2,018 is child's play compared to Stalin.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
All “mail” ends up in the mind of the person praying.

Why believe the Koran? The Koran or the bible are not better then any other book.

I know you think that, but I'm showing you that not all religions can be valid as the Hindus beleive.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

I can answer those two questions easily. A: The universe is alive; Life manifests were ever the conditions are correct. B: The universe has always been in one form or another. The big bang was just the last one.

That doesn't answer a damn thing. Rocks are not alive, gases are not alive, planets are not alive.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Hitler, Stalin and Mao combined have killed many more people than the religious conflicts combined.

People killed in the Inquistion: 2,000. People killed in the Salem Witch Trials: 18. 2,018 is child's play compared to Stalin.

My no god is better then your god is the same as my god is better then your god. Wars between religions are the same as wars between atheists and theists.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I know you think that, but I'm showing you that not all religions can be valid as the Hindus beleive.

I’m not agreeing with Hindus, and I never said anything about valid. People determine what religions are valid or not. If a religion survives the test of time, then it is valid. I said that all religions are equal.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That doesn't answer a damn thing. Rocks are not alive, gases are not alive, planets are not alive.

What is the difference between a hydrogen atom in water and a hydrogen atom in your body? Is the hydrogen atom in your body alive?

The atom itself is not alive, but cell it's in is.

And please don't tell me you're comparing a planet in the universe to an atom in a body. That's just an erroneous comparison.