so how many people happy with the look of the joker?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Yea i couldn't believe the timing either. I was expecting the opposite of it all. That he was going to be more alive with this role. Cause it would be his most challenging and probably most rewarding role.

Goodness, didn't anyone see anything going on with the guy?

All that money (sold a home in Australia for $7mill a year or 2 back) and no one was around to help him or notice something, anything. Someone should've intervened and told dude, "look, you look fcking sick , man. You're taking a vacation. Let's go to the Rockies or some remote (natural) stress free place for a month or 2 and just chill and relax and relax some more." He'd take his daughter with him and friend and that's it. But no. People surrounding him wanted to probably be seen with him in the spotlight all the time cause they were losers and forgot that he was a human being that needed downtime too.

too fcuking bad. My heart goes out to him only. not his family or his entourage. Forget them. They forgot about Heath. So forget them. Where were they. I'm sure a phone call could've detected something. Motherly and fatherly instincts do work. w/e.

rip heath aka the real joker.

"What do I think of success?, it sucks."

- Eminem

I think Nolan should have been more accommodating, I don't think any sane person could play the Joker from the early 40's I don't think you could do it day in, day out and be like that; then come home alone and prepare for the next day and then try and please the fans, I don't think it is possible, I expected this film to put him on the map, and it is also bittersweet that his best performance shall be his last.

Man after seeing the trailers for the new batman movie and after looking at the joker,I am royally pissed about this movie and not at all excited about it.The look of the joker is as stupid as the look of the green goblin in the first Man-spider movie.That goblin was so stupid looking it hurt the credibility of the film.The look of the joker doesnt hurt the credibility of the film but I wont be able to enjoy this movie seeing how they have screwed up his look so bad.I want the joker I have always known.the one from the comics and the 60's show and even the one from batman 89 was much better than this crapfest one. 😠 I NOW change my vote to I HATE IT!!!!!! 😠 😠 😠 😘

I say it again in hopes of a response from someone else about it.

Sorry you feel that way. But Im guessing a lot of people are waiting to see the movie first, and distance themselves away from a premature bashing Ledger's Joker until it could be warranted in the performance.

well his look wont ruin the film for me.The story is the most important thing than anything else for me in determining how I like it.I still dont like the look of the Batmobile Nolan has for his Batman movies.Never will.But that didnt ruin the movie for me.Its still my favorite batman movie and one of my favorite movies of all time.But It could have been an even better movie if they had just used the batmobile from the Burton films.Its like a great meal was served with cake as the desert,but the desert wasnt as great as it could have been because they left out the icing on the cake.The movie could have been an even better movie than it was with the right batmobile look.It wasnt so I kinda feel cheated that we didnt get the best Batman movie made that was possible because they wanted to do something different.I still love the movie but it just dissapointing to me that it could have even been better with the right batmobile.The new batman movie will have the same effect on me.

IA I don't think the look is a good idea at all. When I see him on the screen he is not the Joker to me. I'll just pretend he is a villain named Meth Clown Man and enjoy the movie that way

I have a feeling it'll be interesting to look back at our pre-release opinions on this movie after we have seen the whole movie.

I pretty much feel the same way Selina and Bruce do and will have to think of him THAT way so i can enjoy it also.hehe heh.Thats what I do with halloween 3 SEASON OF THE WITCH.as a halloween movie it sucks cause its got nothing whatsoever to do with michael myers,but if you think of it as a movie called SEASON OF THE WITCH its kinda fun to watch because as a movie on its own,its pretty good so since he just doesnt look like the joker,Im just going to think of him as a new villain

bump.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
so since he just doesnt look like the joker,Im just going to think of him as a new villain

How about: The Ghoul.

Seriously though to me this look change for the Joker is confusing. You look at Nolan's Joker and it looks more like something Burton would create (remember penguin). But then you take Burtons Joker and you would (looking at Begins) associate that more with the clean-cut Nolan universe.

Personally, I'm just happy Heath actually dyed his hair for the role..J.ack's spray-on green paint is extremely annoying.

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
How about: The Ghoul.

Seriously though to me this look change for the Joker is confusing. You look at Nolan's Joker and it looks more like something Burton would create (remember penguin). But then you take Burtons Joker and you would (looking at Begins) associate that more with the clean-cut Nolan universe.

exactly.like always,we agree with each other again.Thats why unlike with BATMAN BEGINS,I am not at all excited about this fim knowing were not going to get the best possible batman movie we could be getting. 😠 thats what I said earlier,that Nolan seems to be following down the same path Burton did when he made Batman Returns.making the villain NOTHING at all like the comic villain. Yeah you would associate Burtons Joker with the clean cut Nolan universe since Nolan so far has beee the only director that didnt have his head up his ass when making a Batman movie.and you so much hit the nail right on the head that you think by looking at Nolans Joker,that you would think this was Burton making this movie since its more like his universe cause like you said,you look at Nolans Joker and it reminds you of Burtons universe of a weird ass moronc change just made for the sake of change with no sound reasoning behind it all. 😠 cant believe with the movie right around the corner,there isnt more people posting in the batman section about the upcoming movie. 😠

What exactly about Nolans version is "clean-cut"?

Originally posted by Devil King
What exactly about Nolans version is "clean-cut"?

Well its clean-cut in the sense that the violence in Begins was woeful, bad things happen for sure but nothing to make you even flinch.

For me also Gotham wasn't exactly portrayed as the hot-bed of crime and disorder that we were led to believe it was. There were not many deaths and the ones that could have been more graphic and shocking were flat and hurried.

thats kinda what I figured you meant.that there wasnt any violence in it that made you cringe.That it was toned down in a big way a lot like batman forever without stupid unnessary changes made to it like the drastic unnessary change made to the penguin in batman returns.because of burtons pitiful version of batman,I automatically was expecting to see batman drop that guy on his head from the building, killing when he was interrogating him, because I still had the bad taste of the burton films still lingering in my mind.but as I have said many times since Begins,Begins erased those horrible memorys for me of the burton/schumacher franchise and it was all just a bad dream that I was FINALLY able to wake up from thanks to Nolan.

Its a new take on the joker, which is cool, cus in movies, you get to play with characters more. I would've been disappointed if they had decided to just rip off the comic books again, because Burton did that with Nicholson, minus the whole Red hood thing. The prologue was fantastic by the way.

"Whatever doesn't kill me makes me stranger"

Rip off the comic books again? WTF? isn't the main purpose of these movies to adapt the comic books to the big screen? How is making the Joker look as he intended ripping off the comic books? Is making Batman wear a black bat suit a rip off too? lol

I'm actually a fan of Burton's Batman work though I actually think the perfect Batman movie would have been a equal blending of Burton's Batman and Nolan's Batman. Nolan has much better story telling but I think Burton had a better eye for the bizarre and the violent. JMO

Mr Parker, you know I respect you, but why do you continue to rant about the Burton movies if you don't like them? AND I remember you saying once that you were sick of talking about them...

It's just a little odd...

Anyway, yeah, *insert Crow reference here*

LOL at the whole crow thing. He just looks kind of crummy to me. But I'm excited for the movie none the less that looks awesome

well I just saw IRON MAN yesterday and I got to say I am really excited about this summers upcoming moviefest.There looks to be a lot of great comicbook movies coming out this summer.I got to rate IRONMAN up there with the first two superman movies and Batman Begins as my favorite comicbook movies of all time.Im going to see it probably another 4 times or so,its that good.Before the movie started,they were showing previews for summer movies and they showed the incredible hulk and the new indiana jones movie-they BOTH look awesome and look to be great films,cant wait.and they ALSO showed The dark Knight.Man this movie looks like its going to be even BETTER than Batman Begins.the only negative of course is the look of the joker.He looks even more horrible on the screen than he does in these photos. 😠 damn you were right Selina and Bruce,he REALLY REALLY looks like he needs to take a bath in this new film. 😠 You had a good idea,thats the only way I will be able to get his look out of my mind when i watch this movie is pretend that he calls himself CLOWN MAN instead of Joker.Its the same kind of thing that works for me when i watch HALLOWEEN 3 SEASON OF THE WITCH AND ROCKY 5. They are good films just as long as you dont think of them as being called a halloween movie or a rocky movie.when i watch HALLOWEEN 3,I pretend the movie is called SEASON OF THE WITCH since it has NOTHING to do with the first two films,and its kinda fun to watch and sit through when you do THAT.same with rocky 5.Its actually a pretty good film on its own merits.Just dont think of it as a rocky film and it being called ROCKY 5 nad its a fun movie to watch.Just think of it as being called TOMMY and its a movie about Tommy Gunn and its fun to watch. 🙂 so yeah,Im just going to think of him as being called CLOWN MAN when the call him Joker,and joker isnt in the movie,and I'll enjoy it. 😄