Can Thor beat either of these 2 heroes?

He beats them both.

Originally posted by Larceny
He beats them both.

A time or two out of ten. ✅.

Thor definitely wins at least 3 or 4 out of 10 against the Surfer, against Superman he wins 49 percent of the time.

Originally posted by Soljer
A time or two out of ten. ✅.

Nope. He defeats Surfer because he's simply more powerful. He either splits or takes the majority against Superman, or vise versa. 🙂

He'd do better against Superman then he would against Surfer.

Originally posted by King Kandy
He'd do better against Superman then he would against Surfer.

Yet history points otherwise, especially while Thor is bloodlusted.

The thread title should be "Can Surfer beat any of these two characters". The answer being no. 🙂

Originally posted by Larceny
Yet history points otherwise, especially while Thor is bloodlusted.

The thread title should be "Can Surfer beat any of these two characters". The answer being no. 🙂

Originally posted by King Kandy
History says that Superman>Surfer? When?

No, continuity says that Thor > Surfer. 🙂

Might as well throw Supes in there as well as his feats and above top tier showings are superior to Surfer's as well.

Fighting to their full potential, Thor shouldnt be able to react to thier speed. Thor is fast in the way of travel and arm speed, but he has never imo showed combat speed on the level of either.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Fighting to their full potential, Thor shouldnt be able to react to thier speed. Thor is fast in the way of travel and arm speed, but he has never imo showed combat speed on the level of either.

Yet Surfer rarely if ever displays any hint of combat speed to match his travel speed, and was once shocked at the speed of Mjolnir.

Superman, while consistently shown with outstanding combat speed, is never shown to have combat speed above c or to have ever blitzed at speeds above c.

Thor can split a match with Surfer.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Why not? He whipped his ass when he was in Warrior Madness, now that he isn't holding back and has returned, his strength should be at where it was in WM mode.

All WM did was allow him to use his full strength, he used to hold back so much you'd think he needs a hall pass to attack someone full force.

Originally posted by Soljer
He can beat them.

Just not for anything resembling a majority.

Agreed

Speed.

Thor can beat both of them, just probably not for the majority.

If Thor had the mindset of Black Adam he could certainly pull a majority of wins from both of these guys.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
If Thor had the mindset of Black Adam he could certainly pull a majority of wins from both of these guys.

Quite doubtful.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
If Thor had the mindset of Black Adam he could certainly pull a majority of wins from both of these guys.

He's letting loose more in his current appearances, although if surfer and superman went all out, especially the former, Thor letting loose as well does not really mean anything.

Originally posted by Ouallada
He's letting loose more in his current appearances, although if surfer and superman went all out, especially the former, Thor letting loose as well does not really mean anything.

Because his strength is only amplified a tenfold?

Originally posted by llagrok
Because his strength is only amplified a tenfold?

While he does appear to be stronger, I don't recall Warrior Madness to have ever actually been stated to increase his strength or power 10 fold.

Also, Warrior Madness is a self inflicted mind set. If he so chooses, Thor could enter Warrior Madness at any time.