Originally posted by Burning thought
what does it do? also what do you mean, this dimension or not....has he done it across dimensions before..Kain could go to Nosgoth through dimensonal rift, he cannot even be touched there..want Sephiroth to fight kain in Nosgoth? kain will do it....
Reduces hitpoints to 1, so basically leaves you a tooths skin ditance away from death.
Discharges all mana and magic you have.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Reduces hitpoints to 1, so basically leaves you a tooths skin ditance away from death.Discharges all mana and magic you have.
well the first one, thats a game mechanic, hit points to one...since Kain cannot die either he cannot be near death can he, also how does it work, its a silly gameplay attack probably that has nothing more than gameplay terms, if this is true then it probably does nothing
discharges infnite magic, you cannot, so this wont do anything either
Kain cannot touch someone intangible, and to survive his TK, Kain have to be more powerful than Avalanche and Holy.
Seph knows everything Kain will do, because he can read Kain's mind. TK will not kill Seph, because he don't need to breath and don't have organs, but only J-cells. He can use his illusions to trick Kain. And much more.
There are so many things Sephiroth can do...
If Kain wins, it will not be easy.
Originally posted by Burning thought
well the first one, thats a game mechanic, hit points to one...since Kain cannot die either he cannot be near death can he, also how does it work, its a silly gameplay attack probably that has nothing more than gameplay terms, if this is true then it probably does nothingdischarges infnite magic, you cannot, so this wont do anything either
It makes you near death, that is what this power does. Kain will be in a state he's never been in before then i guess.
Then i suppose his disables your ability to use magic. Unless you can do something to restore it, Since kain has never had that happen i think it's unlikely he'll find a way to restore it.
Originally posted by SHM
Kain cannot touch someone intangible, and to survive his TK, Kain have to be more powerful than Avalanche [B]and Holy.Seph knows everything Kain will do, because he can read Kain's mind. TK will not kill Seph, because he don't need to breath and don't have organs, but only J-cells. He can use his illusions to trick Kain. And much more.
There are so many things Sephiroth can do...
If Kain wins, it will not be easy. [/B]
hes touched intangeable beings constantly throughout most of the LOK, spirits, Elder God, people make fun of the Elder God, mainly becaue its a squid looking thing, the fact its basically the size of the planet and is on several planes of excistence at once, spins the very wheel of fate (think lifestream) and keeps it turning to feed itself, yet Kain can somehow hit it with his sword, beings just walk through Elder God all day and dotn know it because of its odd reality warp and instangibility, but Kain can slash it, Sephiroths instangebility will be the same
what do you mean by this, with a gesture kain can make beings fly, move about with his will and take their weapons from them, if he wants, shackle them in chains of TK energy.
you did not read the part where i told you he can close his mind to mentalists, even the greatest on the world as the youngest and weakest kain version, and now even Elder kain has the Mind emblem, hes going to be immune to any mind or illusions, its Kain who will be doing the illusions
there are so many things Kain can do..even with the stripping of powers like time and shield
1.It's been proven that it could get so hot that there will be no moisture, mist nothing.
2.I didn't take away all Kain's powers, i took away 2 so the fight would be fair.
3.Telekinetic Shakles. Sephiroth instant teleport. Sephiroth could cut Kain Vertically in half and then chop him into tiny pieces before he could heal.
4. Yes Sephiroth is dead, he fell into the Lifestream, so he should be able to heal his body parts back like particles forming into an arm.
Originally posted by SHMKain rips out his soul with a gesture. Seph can't go intangible, I would like you to prove that. Kain can't die from anything but soul eating(and prolly other things like dimensional warping).
Kain cannot touch someone intangible, and to survive his TK, Kain have to be more powerful than Avalanche [B]and Holy.Seph knows everything Kain will do, because he can read Kain's mind. TK will not kill Seph, because he don't need to breath and don't have organs, but only J-cells. He can use his illusions to trick Kain. And much more.
There are so many things Sephiroth can do...
If Kain wins, it will not be easy. [/B]
Kain's telepathy>>>>>>>>Sephiroth's. Seph has no organs? Yes he does, AC Seph still had a body, Kadaj.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
It makes you near death, that is what this power does. Kain will be in a state he's never been in before then i guess.Then i suppose his disables your ability to use magic. Unless you can do something to restore it, Since kain has never had that happen i think it's unlikely he'll find a way to restore it.
its not about not being in it before, he just cannot die....you can somehow say sephiroths powers can somehow surpass rules of other characters magically?....it wont even effect kain, if its a true ability at all considering how its basically 101% gameplay effect based. The way you say it is as if he could cast it on Marvels Galactus or LT and they would be near death.....madness
you suppose?...riigghhtt, you said it discharges your magical energies, if thats all it does then it does nothing to kain, simple....no need in trying to make it up what it does
aslo V2D, ime unsure if Soul eating will do much at all anymore, the whole weakness of Kain againt soul attacks is on the basis that Raziel could kill Kain, it turns out that what the EG and Raziel belived is false and that Kain is not neccerily harmable by anyone, reality warping probably though, i would bring in the "why did the Reality warpers not do these things to him then" but thats invalid since it could be CIS/PIS, i have not played BO 1 in ages so i wouldnt remembr if theres a reason why he is immune to all these things
Originally posted by Furion
It zaps all magic and leaves him an inch from defeat, though I suppose Kain could leave and find somebody in Midgar to feed on.
thats the thing, he does not have a limit to his magic, he is the source basically of his worlds, the resvoir of magic, there is no limit, he could leave anyway, dimensoin warp anyway.....go to marvel and rip apart some street leveler for their blood for giggles, possibly summon Sephiroth there, right in front of a blast from Big G, then escape
Originally posted by Furion
Raziel hurt Kain in his fight against him.
tbh ime not so sure about that, sure they were both a little battered it seemed, but how long the fight went on its unkown, could of been ages in the story, it could be exaustion, there are no cuts on their bodies or any damage afai remember after the fight until raziel pulls out Kains heart, which if you knew the story, means a lot more to kain (should do at least) than a human heart does to a human
Originally posted by Furion
Sephiroth's Soul can't be ripped out It has tainted the lifestream so if Kain ripped it out, it could theoritcally corrupt some other person in midgar with geostigma and possess him.
Kain has a handy containment device called the Reaver
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Soul Death KILLS the soul.
not quite true, its only killed onece its in the reaver, then its Raziels, the move is called Soul death because usally the ripping of a soul would kill who got ripped, unless that opponent can battle on an astral plane level
but thats pointless as well because kain has mastery over souls, he could do what he likes with it once its out, feed it to raziel, use it to give life to a corpse and make a vampire son