All Powers Sephiroth vs Kain

Originally posted by Burning thought
its not about not being in it before, he just cannot die....you can somehow say sephiroths powers can somehow surpass rules of other characters magically?....it wont even effect kain, if its a true ability at all considering how its basically 101% gameplay effect based. The way you say it is as if he could cast it on Marvels Galactus or LT and they would be near death.....madness

you suppose?...riigghhtt, you said it discharges your magical energies, if thats all it does then it does nothing to kain, simple....no need in trying to make it up what it does

I'll give you the benefit out the doubt but it does out like your trying to igore this powers effects,

If Kain can be defeated then this works. It saps your off all your strength and energy bar your very last legs. I won't explain this again.

That is a strange system, i would imagine the game is very easy to beat. Point being if his magic pool (the scource of his mana) has no limit, then i suggest it strangles the link on Kains ability to recive it.

And there was that thing in KH where Seph said Cloud killed Sephiroth like dozens times of times and The darkness kept calling him back cause of Cloud's unwillingness to move on and stay in the past. Kain may take a portion of Sephiroth's soul which would do more harm then good do to corrupted lifestream, but Sephiroth would keep coming back. like tasking a cup and dipping it into the river with piss in it, you get some of it , but not all of it. Oh and you can never drink from that cup again.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I'll give you the benefit out the doubt but it does out like your trying to igore this powers effects,

If Kain can be defeated then this works. It saps your off all your strength and energy bar your very last legs. I won't explain this again.

That is a strange system, i would imagine the game is very easy to beat. Point being if his magic pool (the scource of his mana) has no limit, then i suggest it strangles the link on Kains ability to recive it.

not really ignore, ime simply explaing that the power to me seems based around gameplay, your only susepcting or assuming the effects now, since all we see is gameplay effects of it, its unkown, especially when figuires are involved....

In Nosgoth he cannot be defeated, and as you say, energy bar, kain would have none and these are gameplay elements, you cannot compare bars and such to a real life battle

the game is quite easy, but kain cant use many spells in the latest game, the develers just dont give you the spells to use, and in Blood omen 1, he does have a energy bar of limits, but agian, gameplay. The thing with kain is he is the source, its not like theres a conduit supplying him with energy, he IS the energy source, he is the conduit itself

Originally posted by Furion
And there was that thing in KH where Seph said Cloud killed Sephiroth like dozens times of times and The darkness kept calling him back cause of Cloud's unwillingness to move on and stay in the past. Kain may take a portion of Sephiroth's soul which would do more harm then good do to corrupted lifestream, but Sephiroth would keep coming back.

the battle would be constantly in kains favour...even if he does keep coming back, he would eventualy be tired of getting pwned hed take his own excistence and simply hide and forgeit the match

Then Sephiroth says "Why the hell are we fighting, we should be killing everyone and stealing their souls." So Kain and Sephiroth went and killed everyone in Midgar. Basically I'm tired of argueing about 2 people killing each other.

lawls 😄

Just imagine Kain & Sephiroth Killing everybody left and right;smiling like their taking a stroll in the park, the sun's out and it has that smily face on it. THAT is funny.

Originally posted by Burning thought
not really ignore, ime simply explaing that the power to me seems based around gameplay, your only susepcting or assuming the effects now, since all we see is gameplay effects of it, its unkown, especially when figuires are involved....

In Nosgoth he cannot be defeated, and as you say, energy bar, kain would have none and these are gameplay elements, you cannot compare bars and such to a real life battle

the game is quite easy, but kain cant use many spells in the latest game, the develers just dont give you the spells to use, and in Blood omen 1, he does have a energy bar of limits, but agian, gameplay. The thing with kain is he is the source, its not like theres a conduit supplying him with energy, he IS the energy source, he is the conduit itself

You're finding way of denying it's effects. It's very obvious

Does this battle take place in Nosgoth?

I won't repeat myself again, i told you what it would do, if you're going to deny it, then to the outside reader it looks as though you believe it would cause Kain to lose. If it appears as though Sephiroth wins, as it does currently, i need not debate more.

No it takes place in Midgar, though Kain could use his stupid Dimension change to go to Norgoth.But if Kain tries to bring Sephiroth to midgar, he could just possess someone in Midgar and leave a person with stigma wondering where the hell he is.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
You're finding way of denying it's effects. It's very obvious

Does this battle take place in Nosgoth?

I won't repeat myself again, i told you what it would do, if you're going to deny it, then to the outside reader it looks as though you believe it would cause Kain to lose. If it appears as though Sephiroth wins, as it does currently, i need not debate more.

it has no effects other than gameplay....Soul reaver is a one hit kill in the soul reaver games then....it one hits sephiroth....the poison in Messiah of might and magic from spiders reduce you to 1 hp....one spider can almost 1 hit sephiroth, gameplay elemetns ftl.....

it can if Kain chooses

"shrug" the outside reader can belive what they want, Kain just has too many ways and an ability like this one you menstion that has no out of gameplay effects mean nothing....infact Sephiroth is likely to die as soon as he gets into Nosgoth because there is no longer lifestream and such, altho luckily for him KMC rules state characters kain their usual abilities in other realms

like I said, if the body Sephiroth currently possesses enters Nosgoth, He could just leave it and enter someone else's body.

Wait Gamplay? Sephiroth vs KainTM A true bestseller. Watch as Kain rips a Midgardian's spine out. Rated AO

Originally posted by Burning thought
it has no effects other than gameplay....Soul reaver is a one hit kill in the soul reaver games then....it one hits sephiroth

Selective reasoning there.

If Heartless Angel doesn't do it's gameplay mechanic, then neither does soul reaver, this isn't a one way street. What applies for Sephiroth applies for Kain.

Originally posted by Furion
Just imagine Kain & Sephiroth Killing everybody left and right;smiling like their taking a stroll in the park, the sun's out and it has that smily face on it. THAT is funny.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Selective reasoning there.

If Heartless Angel doesn't do it's gameplay mechanic, then neither does soul reaver, this isn't a one way street. What applies for Sephiroth applies for Kain.

you missed the point entirely, i was merely mocking your point, that simply because a weapon in a game can one hit kill, does not mean its a one hit kill on every character, in every game.

apparently to further its gameplay foolering the move does damage using numbers, it has never been used out of a number system?
Heartless angel also from what ive heard has nothing behind it, is it magical? what is it actually doing, for example the soul reaver lets loose a blast that on a touch turns a human into pieces through the energy in the blade.

Heartless angel on the otherhand simply takes hitpoints and magic down to 1 point, in the real world battle their having, this will not make any sense, you can only assume what it means since neither in the real world have little bars hovering around them with the amount of health or magic they would have.

Originally posted by Burning thought
you missed the point entirely, i was merely mocking your point, that simply because a weapon in a game can one hit kill, does not mean its a one hit kill on every character, in every game.

apparently to further its gameplay foolering the move does damage using numbers, it has never been used out of a number system?
Heartless angel also from what ive heard has nothing behind it, is it magical? what is it actually doing, for example the soul reaver lets loose a blast that on a touch turns a human into pieces through the energy in the blade.

Heartless angel on the otherhand simply takes hitpoints and magic down to 1 point, in the real world battle their having, this will not make any sense, you can only assume what it means since neither in the real world have little bars hovering around them with the amount of health or magic they would have.

Heartless Angel in Kingdom Hearts is called Sin Harvest in FFVII. I expect from the name you work out what it does.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Heartless Angel in Kingdom Hearts is called Sin Harvest in FFVII. I expect from the name you work out what it does.

harvests sin? but how woud that harm someone in any way, also if thats true, then Kain is not affected, he has no sin by the end of Defiance because he gets purified also ime curious, how does he execute the attack, if it takes more than a second or so to cast its an invalid move, if you can prove it is quicker, please show me 🙂

It takes a fair amount of time to cast. It is by no means instant.

is that so? damn...lawls....well why did i waste time trying to debate against the thing? please explain that to me V2D!!! 🙁

No idea. Prolly cause you lack a penis, as it has rotted off by now, where as I have a cosmic penis I can summon at will.

no wai fool!!

ive got an evolved penis, it evolves constantly finding the best ways to hit climax in the least amount of time, its uber....gief it respects!!