All Powers Sephiroth vs Kain

Started by SHM15 pages

The entire Lifestream tried to dillute Sephiroth's soul and failed, because of his plot-device willpower. He absorbed the souls of the Lifestream during more than 5 years. His soul/essence is connected to all the Negative Lifestream.

Kain cannot absorb Sephiroth's soul.

Originally posted by SHM
The entire Lifestream tried to dillute Sephiroth's soul and failed, because of his plot-device willpower. He absorbed the souls of the Lifestream during more than 5 years. His soul/essence is connected to all the Negative Lifestream.

Kain cannot absorb Sephiroth's soul.

you mean the lifestream cannot absorb Sephiroths soul...by saying that you are saying Sephiroth has one? excellent

Kain doesnt absorb anything, he just forcefully rips it out, will power means that you dont want something to happen and your willing it not to happen however this is not like that, Kains soul attack is not only invisible but direct, his soul will be blasted out of him before he even knew it

Then have Sephiroth contaminate the rest of the souls and take over just like he did the entire lifestream.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Then have Sephiroth contaminate the rest of the souls and take over just like he did the entire lifestream.

huh....

Originally posted by Burning thought
huh....

Trying to take control of Sephiroth soul isnt a good idea, Sephiroth isnt a normal being, he'll corrupt whatever tries to take control of his soul

Originally posted by Terryc250
Trying to take control of Sephiroth soul isnt a good idea, Sephiroth isnt a normal being, he'll corrupt whatever tries to take control of his soul

Kain is an incorruptable vessel and two his containtment of impirisonment is the sword, which is indestructable as well, hell be lost, or completly swallowed by Raziel

Back up, How do you know IF ic even can absorb Sephiroth's Negative Lifestream (I still don't think he can, make no mistake) How the hell can you KNOW that that doesn't corrupt Kain? Has he ever absorbed souls that would corrupting the entire worlds before?

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Back up, How do you know IF ic even can absorb Sephiroth's Negative Lifestream (I still don't think he can, make no mistake) How the hell can you KNOW that that doesn't corrupt Kain? Has he ever absorbed souls that would corrupting the entire worlds before?

has Sephiroth ever had Kains soul rip attack on him before? forcefully ripping his soul from him?

Kain is incorruptable as stated by Hylden that Vampires are incorruptable vessels, you cannot Corrupt a nosgothian vampire, also what do you mean by corrupt, if you mean possess, possess what? his mind, his soul....hes far too powerful in those matters not to menstion with his shields and emblems. Thats one of the reasons why the humans cannot control the pillars of Nosgoth, because they are corruptable you see.

Also you cant corrupt a sword, at least not the indestructable reaver, theres nothing about it to corrupt....Sephiroth would die if he has a soul

Originally posted by Burning thought
has Sephiroth ever had Kains soul rip attack on him before? forcefully ripping his soul from him?

Kain is incorruptable as stated by Hylden that Vampires are incorruptable vessels, you cannot Corrupt a nosgothian vampire, also what do you mean by corrupt, if you mean possess, possess what? his mind, his soul....hes far too powerful in those matters not to menstion with his shields and emblems. Thats one of the reasons why the humans cannot control the pillars of Nosgoth, because they are corruptable you see.

Also you cant corrupt a sword, at least not the indestructable reaver, theres nothing about it to corrupt....Sephiroth would die if he has a soul

No, no such attacks exist in FF.

Er, thats a damn good question. Think of it as pouring food coloring in water. It's a change that corrupts the lifestream and turning into Sephiroth's essence, Negative Lifestream.

As you suggest, it's impossible to know what would happen if he did. Unless the souls he devours merge with others, in which case all the souls he ever stole would become tainted and would add to Sephiroths power.

Corrupt the sword? not excactly the way to word it. It would simply becon a beacon for Sephiroth's power.

HOWEVER, for this discussion even to matter Sephiroth needs to be hit. Something i haven't see evidence that prove that. I assume you have seen the battle between Chaos & Weiss, Sephiroth's speed is greater than theirs. Even the dimensional shift doesn't seem faster enough to land a hit.

Kain can take Sephiroth's soul. His soul is not immune to soul attacks. I lol at anyone who thinks Jedah Dohma couldn't take his soul.

Oh and BT, I bought LOK Defiance today. I can understand why you are such a big fan of the game, it is quite fun.

Kain can take Sephiroth's soul. His soul is not immune to soul attacks. I lol at anyone who thinks Jedah Dohma couldn't take his soul.

Spirit energy =/= the souls of LoK. And Sephiroth has demonstrated many a time that his soul resists everything.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Kain can take Sephiroth's soul. His soul is not immune to soul attacks. I lol at anyone who thinks Jedah Dohma couldn't take his soul.

Spirit energy =/= the souls of LoK. And Sephiroth has demonstrated many a time that his soul resists everything.

So you think even Jedah Dohma couldn't eat his soul? Lol.

So you think even Jedah Dohma couldn't eat his soul? Lol.

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Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Kain can take Sephiroth's soul. His soul is not immune to soul attacks. I lol at anyone who thinks Jedah Dohma couldn't take his soul.

Spirit energy =/= the souls of LoK. And Sephiroth has demonstrated many a time that his soul resists everything.

Because it's negative right? that makes it unable to return like others

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
So you think even Jedah Dohma couldn't eat his soul? Lol.

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Why don't you quote the post? 😬

Seph's soul is not invulnerable to soul attacks, not like Kain would need it to win.

Why don't you quote the post?

Italics are more fun.

Seph's soul is not invulnerable to soul attacks, not like Kain would need it to win.

Prove that he isn't and I'll believe you. The fact is everything we've seen try to absorb Sephiroth's spirit has failed miserably, and until you can show anything otherwise it is the same with Kain.

Because it's negative right? that makes it unable to return like others

No, its because Sephiroth's will is too strong for anything to assimilate, absorb or destroy it.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Seph's soul is not invulnerable to soul attacks, not like Kain would need it to win.

To be honest, this is the only way i think that has been put forward that Sephiroth dies, sicne theres a snowballs chance in hell of Kain killing Seph out of Kenjutsu

Soul is the same thing as Spirit Energy in the FF world, there is no "soul" when you die, u become spirit energy and automactially the planet claims ur spirit energy to the lifestream, once sephiroth went into the lifestream, he corrupted, took control and almost killed the planet. Sephiroth has shown that he has complete control over his own Soul/SpiritEnergy and can will it in anyway possible, even created an epidemic plague out of it.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Soul is the same thing as Spirit Energy in the FF world, there is no "soul" when you die, u become spirit energy and automactially the planet claims ur spirit energy to the lifestream, once sephiroth went into the lifestream, he corrupted, took control and almost killed the planet. Sephiroth has shown that he has complete control over his own Soul/SpiritEnergy and can will it in anyway possible, even created an epidemic plague out of it.
100% agree with this.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Prove that he isn't and I'll believe you. The fact is everything we've seen try to absorb Sephiroth's spirit has failed miserably, and until you can show anything otherwise it is the same with Kain.
Can't prove a negative. What has ever tried to absorb Seph's soul? ONE thing, the Lifestream, and how powerful is its soul sucking abilities, it can only suck souls of people who die, Kain takes the souls from already living beings.

Also, Jedah would eat Seph's soul and just add it to his own power, only to realise that the boost in his power is so small he should have just thrown his soul away.