I'm worried about Janus statements.
He is totally incorrect in his assumptions concerning the power-levels of the various Hulk incarnations.
And, as I scanned through the last few pages of this thread, I can see that he makes many, many statements that should not be left to stand. WWH as shown some of the weakest abilities in the Hulk line.
Maestro is the most powerful version of the Hulk.
If played to his best MM would own WWH 10/10
but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40
under normal circumastances, if we take MM as he is most often shown, he would only take 3/10 🙁.
So WWH and only this version of him wins this one.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeI don't feel like reposting my arguments ad-nauseam, so I'll simplify in three paragraphs:
If played to his best MM would own WWH 10/10but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40
under normal circumastances, if we take MM as he is most often shown, he would only take 3/10 🙁.
So WWH and only this version of him wins this one.
1) The powers that MMH supporters believe would win the fight against WWH have been tried and failed on WWH and weaker pre-WWH incarnations. For anybody that still believes MMH is leagues above Professor X, look back on his respect thread or throught he pages of this thread for proof to the contrary. Same thing with phasing. Opinions can fly every which way, but scan to scan, WWH can and has dealt with it.
2) What shouldn't be denied is that WWH accomplished greater feats of strength, durability and adaptability with striking ease. I realize that some people will argue that MMH has just a good, if not better healing factor then WWH, but his best feats as presented by some of his supporters (which I'm grateful for), still appear to require time and safety, whereas WWH is healing his blown out torso at the same time he's fighting and being beaten on by a Zom Strange maniac. So when it comes to the effectiveness of a healing factor during a fight, WWH's appears to be superior.
3) WWH has only been beaten when his healing factor has been turned off or when his power has been overloaded or when his power is drained. I don't see MMH doing any of these things. And while I was able to come up with a single scenario where he could beat WWH, I don't see him doing any of the above things. And as always, I am open to opinions and scenarios, but they have to be more then just "MMH written right, would beat WWH." Because that's all I've been hearing.
WWH 8/10. (Written right or otherwise.)
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
If played to his best MM would own WWH 10/10but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40
under normal circumastances, if we take MM as he is most often shown, he would only take 3/10 🙁.
So WWH and only this version of him wins this one.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't feel like reposting my arguments ad-nauseam, so I'll simplify in three paragraphs:1) The powers that MMH supporters believe would win the fight against WWH have been tried and failed on WWH and weaker pre-WWH incarnations. For anybody that still believes MMH is leagues above Professor X, look back on his respect thread or throught he pages of this thread for proof to the contrary. Same thing with phasing. Opinions can fly every which way, but scan to scan, WWH can and has dealt with it.
2) What shouldn't be denied is that WWH accomplished greater feats of strength, durability and adaptability with striking ease. I realize that some people will argue that MMH has just a good, if not better healing factor then WWH, but his best feats as presented by some of his supporters (which I'm grateful for), still appear to require time and safety, whereas WWH is healing his blown out torso at the same time he's fighting and being beaten on by a Zom Strange maniac. So when it comes to the effectiveness of a healing factor during a fight, WWH's appears to be superior.
3) WWH has only been beaten when his healing factor has been turned off or when his power has been overloaded or when his power is drained. I don't see MMH doing any of these things. And while I was able to come up with a single scenario where he could beat WWH, I don't see him doing any of the above things. And as always, I am open to opinions and scenarios, but they have to be more then just "MMH written right, would beat WWH." Because that's all I've been hearing.
WWH 8/10. (Written right or otherwise.)
Originally posted by jks
More like 20 pages of people embarrassingly thinking MMH stands a chance.
Wrong.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Lies, all lies.
I don't feel like reposting my arguments ad-nauseam, so I'll simplify in three paragraphs:1) The powers that MMH supporters believe would win the fight against WWH have been tried and failed on WWH and weaker pre-WWH incarnations. For anybody that still believes MMH is leagues above Professor X, look back on his respect thread or throught he pages of this thread for proof to the contrary. Same thing with phasing. Opinions can fly every which way, but scan to scan, WWH can and has dealt with it.
2) What shouldn't be denied is that WWH accomplished greater feats of strength, durability and adaptability with striking ease. I realize that some people will argue that MMH has just a good, if not better healing factor then WWH, but his best feats as presented by some of his supporters (which I'm grateful for), still appear to require time and safety, whereas WWH is healing his blown out torso at the same time he's fighting and being beaten on by a Zom Strange maniac. So when it comes to the effectiveness of a healing factor during a fight, WWH's appears to be superior.
3) WWH has only been beaten when his healing factor has been turned off or when his power has been overloaded or when his power is drained. I don't see MMH doing any of these things. And while I was able to come up with a single scenario where he could beat WWH, I don't see him doing any of the above things. And as always, I am open to opinions and scenarios, but they have to be more then just "MMH written right, would beat WWH." Because that's all I've been hearing.
WWH 8/10. (Written right or otherwise.)
Neck broken. Almost killed by gamma-bird-man.
Pounded around like a little lady by Juggernaut, then Hulk runs away.
Blasted to his knees by Sentry, until Hulk's little friends save him.
Beat and blasted easily by Zom/Strange, until Strange gets side-tracked.
There was no lack of healing factor, no power drain, no nothing. He was just slapped around.
"World War Hype" is his new name.
Originally posted by grey fox
What CAN'T he do should be the question. J'onn is the swiss-army knife of superheroes. This guy is like an X-men team all rolled into one.He can Become invisible
He can Phase
He has Heat-vision
He has Force Vision
He can shape-shift
He can Phase
He can Regenerate
He can Increase his mass
He Can Fly
He has your DC average Superhuman physical Stats.And he chumped Captain Marvel
J'onn grows to the same size as the Empire State Building and punts World War Hulk into the Sun. Afterwards he shape-shifts into Hugh Hefner and parties down with some playmates.
has MM beaten CM before?
Originally posted by Horrificus
Lies, all lies.Neck broken. Almost killed by gamma-bird-man.
Pounded around like a little lady by Juggernaut, then Hulk runs away.
Blasted to his knees by Sentry, until Hulk's little friends save him.
Beat and blasted easily by Zom/Strange, until Strange gets side-tracked.
There was no lack of healing factor, no power drain, no nothing. He was just slapped around.
"World War Hype" is his new name. [/B]
Guess you didn't read the full story - he got slapped around a few times then came back and won the fight. If Hulk just instantly killed everybody it wouldn't be much of an epic tale now, would it?