Who really wone: Yoda vs Sidious"

Sidious did not win the fight against Yoda - everyone should be able to see that if they watch the fight (and by the way - Anakin, as young Darth Vader, did not defeat Obi-Wan even that he did attack 90% of the time - "90% attack" that is not a valued argument for being better).

If it is claimed that Sidious did win in some canon - Lucas forgot to put it into the movie (it may mean that Sidious achieved what he wanted - he got the Universe in his hand after this fight - but he did still not win the fight).

Sidious got what he wanted except that he didn't have the power to kill Yoda.
If one watch closely it seems that Yoda has a little bit more power when they got their closeup force fights, though not much and not enough to finish Sidious off quickly (at least my opinion).

Judged only from the movie only one result can be claimed: The fight was a DRAW - no way that one can conclude that Sidious did win THE FIGHT.

another interpretation. and one I happen to agree with.

Originally posted by Gideon
The script does. But immediately after, it shows Yoda kicking Sidious's ass -- and then allowing the Dark Lord to escape to a lower pod. It's non canon.

I don't understand why that shows that it is non canon, if I lost my lightsaber I would retreat as well.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I don't understand why that shows that it is non canon, if I lost my lightsaber I would retreat as well.

Huh?

No, the script shows Yoda disarming Sidious, pwning him with his own lightning, and vowing that he will "destroy you!" -- only to back off and flee to a pod for no reason:

YODA unleashes a ferocious assault on PALPATINE, causing him to almost go over the edge. The Dark Lord drops his lightsaber but recovers with a BLAST OF ENERGY from his hands that surrounds YODA. YODA is deflecting the Sith Lord's lightning bolts.

The energy bolts begin to arc back on the Emperor. It looks as if the Dark Lord is doomed.

YODA: Destroy you I will, just as Master Kenobi, your apprentice will destroy.

YODA jumps to a lower Senate Pod. PALPATINE reaches out with one hand, and a Senate pod is released from its mooring and heads toward the Podium. PALPATINE uses the Force to hurl pod after pod at YODA, who ducks and jumps from one flying pod to another.

...Essentially, it's as one-sided as the RotS novelization makes for Sidious.

Yoda was the superior swordsman .. but Sidious is a superior Force-power user .. so it depended on what form of combat it was .. Yoda kicked ass during the swordfight but as soon as Sids started shooting Force Lightning at Yoda. . he knew he was screwed and when he fell to the bottom of the Rotunda.. he bolted because he knew , like Obi did during the Mustafar duel, that having the high ground is your ultimate advantage...

I disagree. There's no indication that either one of them surpassed the other in any skill; both Sidious and Yoda exchanged central positions on the Chancellor's podium during the duel. In the shot where the podium rises into the Rotunda, we see that Sidious starts off in the middle; Yoda forces him down into Mas Amedda's station for a few strikes before the Sith Lord, in turn, forces him from the central position. The only time that it looks like Sidious is "losing" per se is likely derived from the grunting and facial expressions during his saber lock with Yoda. Objectively speaking however, dominance isn't displayed by either side.

Originally posted by Gideon
Huh?

No, the script shows Yoda disarming Sidious, pwning him with his own lightning, and vowing that he will "destroy you!" -- only to back off and flee to a pod for no reason:
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up. That makes much more sense.

Originally posted by Gideon
I disagree. There's no indication that either one of them surpassed the other in any skill; both Sidious and Yoda exchanged central positions on the Chancellor's podium during the duel. In the shot where the podium rises into the Rotunda, we see that Sidious starts off in the middle; Yoda forces him down into Mas Amedda's station for a few strikes before the Sith Lord, in turn, forces him from the central position. The only time that it looks like Sidious is "losing" per se is likely derived from the grunting and facial expressions during his saber lock with Yoda. Objectively speaking however, dominance isn't displayed by either side.

yeah if it was a pure saber duel then YODA would win... Sidious is quite powerful though with his treachery lighting slashes... Saber to Saber YODA will win... 😄

✅ Indeed.

Again, nothing to support that, but I guess you're entitled to your opinion.

Originally posted by Gideon
Again, nothing to support that, but I guess you're entitled to your opinion.

Yes.
Entitled to an opinion.

Entitled to overrule facts with ones fantasies?
Never.

there you go with your facts again. one would think with all your "facts" that you are in fact George Lucas.

I know how to use facts to back up my statements. A good skill to have.

sure you do. way to go, champ.

You mean like the fact that TIE fighters make noises in space?

Facts and Star Wars don't mix. I don't know why I make the mistake of sometimes thinking it does.

With all due respect, Blaxican, that is no excuse for someone to flaunt their opinions without the benefit of logical support and expect others to take it seriously or it to constitute as the truth. The fact remains that aside of a few moments of dominance held by both combatants, neither Yoda nor Palpatine demonstrate powers or abilities that surpass the other.

I know. I'm just pulling stuff out of my ass.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I know. I'm just pulling stuff out of my ass.

I'm not quite ready to leave just yet. 😐