not to be pedantic but, the wheel is spun by his hand thus the Marvel Omniverse would be something external to, but maintained by, him no?
so unless the Omniverse is in his other hand (because it's obviously not in the hand that's doing the spinning), it must be 'out there' somewhere.
but it does make LT > Marvel Omniverse, it seems 😄.
Originally posted by janus77
not to be pedantic but, the wheel is spun by his hand thus the Marvel Omniverse would be something external to, but maintained by, him no?
Originally posted by janus77
so unless the Omniverse is in his other hand (because it's obviously not in the hand that's doing the spinning), it must be 'out there' somewhere.
The LT has stated before that if he wished, he could be everything,
but the LT lives by protocol, so he continues and says that he must be apart:
"I, who could be all, must be but a part ... I must be apart"
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I think this relates to what you're saying, and I agree.
Originally posted by janus77
but it does make LT > Marvel Omniverse, it seems 😄.
Originally posted by Mr MasterExcept for the fact that none of what you stated (regarding the post-retcon Brothers being anything more than the Guardians of said Megaverses), seems to be stated anywhere on panel.
Again,The Brothers are everything the original Brothers were with the exception of their size.
The Original Brothers were siblings.
Retcon Brothers are siblings.The Original Brothers were the architects of their realities.
Retcon Brothers are the architects of their realities.The Original Brothers were the guardians of their realities.
Retcon Brothers are the guardians of their realities.The Original Brothers are tied in an eternal conflict.
The Retcon Brothers are tied in an eternal conflict.Pattern anyone?
Your opinion is your opinion, I would never try to sway that... But let's not act as though it's an infallible opinion, especially when you can't provide solid evidence supporting said theory.
Originally posted by Galan007
Except for the fact that none of what you stated (regarding the post-retcon Brothers being anything more than the Guardians of said Megaverses), seems to be stated anywhere on panel.Your opinion is your opinion, I would never try to sway that... But let's not act as though it's an infallible opinion, especially when you can't provide solid evidence supporting said theory.
The Pre retcon Brothers wasn't locked in eternal Conflict was they Galan (you made there respect thread so I assume you know a lot about them) didn't they more by coincidence find out that the other part existed and then had the heroes battling each other but the result wasn't interesting so they then decide to settle it in a duel between each other???
Originally posted by UtrigitaIn a nutshell.
The Pre retcon Brothers was locked in eternal Conflict was they Galan (you made there respect thread so I assume you know a lot about them) didn't they more by coincidence find out that the other part existed and then had the heroes battling each other but the result wasn't interesting so they then decide to settle it in a duel between each other???
Originally posted by Utrigita
The Pre retcon Brothers wasn't locked in eternal Conflict was they Galan (you made there respect thread so I assume you know a lot about them) didn't they more by coincidence find out that the other part existed and then had the heroes battling each other but the result wasn't interesting so they then decide to settle it in a duel between each other???
It was actually the silver surfer/green lantern crossover that made the brothers realize they were both there...
You feel this way cause you're being corrected, and you don't seem to like that.
I'm being corrected ?
Perhaps in your view. Then again, like I said, we'll let the readers of our discussion decide.
🙂
I can also adress your "LT holding the Omniverse into his hand" point but then again, it's pointless since it would be just a waste of my time.
Originally posted by starlock
It was actually the silver surfer/green lantern crossover that made the brothers realize they were both there...
Okay so they wasn't in eternal conflict because they didn't know of the other existence prior to the SS and GL confrontation, and it works quiet well with by coincidence 😉
so... what are the positions on the state of "The Brothers"?
1) they're guardians & creators of 2 megaverses
2) they're representations of Marvel's and DC's omniverses?
surely if they're twirling about in LT's palm they must be a part of the Marvel Omniverse, no?
or is DC's omniverse actually a discrete subset of the Marvel Omniverse?
Originally posted by Galan007
Except for the fact that none of what you stated
(regarding the post-retcon Brothers being anything more than the Guardians of said Megaverses),
seems to be stated anywhere on panel.
This retcon came 3 months after the original series,
everyone knows the Brothers were the embodiments of their realities.
The Brothers are an exact duplicate of the original Brothers
with the exception of their size and ownership.
So,
Originally posted by Mr Master
The Original Brothers were siblings.
Retcon Brothers are siblings.The Original Brothers were the architects of their realities.
Retcon Brothers are the architects of their realities.The Original Brothers were the guardians of their realities.
Retcon Brothers are the guardians of their realities.The Original Brothers are tied in an eternal conflict.
(they batteld eons ago, and then again at the end of the series,
had they not come to an agreement, they would've continued to battle)
The Retcon Brothers are tied in an eternal conflict.
Oh,
and the Retcon Brothers look exactly like the original Brothers aswell. 🙂
What more can we ask for friend?
The rest is simple logic that Marvel is shoving in our faces.
It can't get more obvious imo.
If the original Brothers were the embodiments of their realities,
well then it stands to reason so are the Retcon duplicates.
Or did Marvel decide to make exact duplicates,
and leave out the most significant part?
I sincerely doubt it ... but I'll search for more blatant proof. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
Your opinion is your opinion, I would never try to sway that...
But let's not act as though it's an infallible opinion,
especially when you can't provide solid evidence supporting said theory.
But anyway,
I have a question.
When Eternity (embodiment/guardian of his own reality)
creates the Multiverse in the cosmic recycling pattern of Marvel,
how does he do it?
In other words, How does Eternity become the architect of his Reality?
Originally posted by Utrigita
The Pre retcon Brothers wasn't locked in eternal Conflict was they Galan (you made there respect thread so I assume you know a lot about them) didn't they more by coincidence find out that the other part existed and then had the heroes battling each other but the result wasn't interesting so they then decide to settle it in a duel between each other???
Then the Brothers forgot about each other,
and due to a cosmic event, they noticed each other again,
then the pattern once again lived and they wanted to battle again.
But they learned fighting was pointless from their previous battle,
so they pinned heroes against heroes.
In the end, they battle with each other again anyways,
continuing the repetative cycle.
Then they finally ceased their war after realizing how special humanity is.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Okay so they wasn't in eternal conflict because they didn't know of the other existence prior to the SS and GL confrontation, and it works quiet well with by coincidence
Originally posted by janus77
so... what are the positions on the state of "The Brothers"?
1) they're guardians & creators of 2 megaverses
2) they're representations of Marvel's and DC's omniverses?
Just like Eternity is the embodimnt creator of the Prime Multiverse.
Eternity creates the Multiverse from nothingness through Entropy,
who explodes his body into a new Multiverse which becomes Eternity.
Just another Reality Concept on a bigger level.
Originally posted by janus77
surely if they're twirling about in LT's palm they must be a part of the Marvel Omniverse, no?
or is DC's omniverse actually a discrete subset of the Marvel Omniverse?
The current ret-con Brothers are an exact replica of the original Brothers,
down to the exact look,
with the exception of their size.
Original Brothers were the embodiment/guardians of Marvel & DC.
Retcon Brothers are the embodiments/guardians of Two Marvel Megaverses.
That's the only difference.
Originally posted by Mr MasterI'm well aware of your opinion on the matter...
It didn't have to be imo.This retcon came 3 months after the original series,
everyone knows the Brothers were the embodiments of their realities.The Brothers are an exact duplicate of the original Brothers
with the exception of their size and ownership.So,
Oh,
and the Retcon Brothers look exactly like the original Brothers aswell. 🙂
What more can we ask for friend?
The rest is simple logic that Marvel is shoving in our faces.
It can't get more obvious imo.If the original Brothers were the embodiments of their realities,
well then it stands to reason so are the Retcon duplicates.Or did Marvel decide to make exact duplicates,
and leave out the most significant part?I sincerely doubt it ... but I'll search for more blatant proof. 👆
I provided evidence, just not a direct statement
as there's really no need for one when you paste the puzzle together.
What I haven't seen yet is evidence supporting all of your claims.
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm well aware of your opinion on the matter...What I haven't seen yet is evidence supporting all of your claims.
What other ones do you have a problem with?
And answer this please.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I provided evidence, just not a direct statement
as there's really no need for one when you paste the puzzle together.But anyway,
I have a question.
When Eternity (embodiment/guardian of his own reality)
creates the Multiverse in the cosmic recycling pattern of Marvel,
how does he do it?In other words, How does Eternity become the architect of his Reality?
Originally posted by Mr MasterMeant 'some' of your claims'. 🙂
"All of my claims?"
Originally posted by Mr MasterWe have evidence to answer that question..
And answer this please.
Evidence is what we seem to be lacking concerning the Brothers... I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I haven't seen enough to support your claim that the Brothers were the actual embodiments of their respective Megaverses, yet.
