Elder God vs. Sephiroth

Originally posted by Burning thought
show me him doing this to holy, and then prove he did it with TK please

yeh he doesnt move instantly in any of those, and he calls fairly slow fire pillars, wonderful, altho his sword in that is longer than Kains reaver for sure...well done, he can have one point in that, however its still a tiny thin little sword that youve yet to prove is unbreakable. Its safe too [B]ASSUME!! i see.....thats where most of this argument comes from and Teleport is not to do with speed, you phail, so sephiroth cannot actually teleport? lawls

can he tho, TK is not magic, also 1 second charge? , but please show me, most moves in FF seem to take a long while

yeh but its still a tree....its lumber, its not like it was stone and its not like that is sephiroth either

cant find the pic of the Glyth knight, hes massive and the average normal knight in history could ot get up if he was taken off his horse....knights are incredibly heavey, let alone massive guys in armor like the ones in LOK but i concede strength, its irrelevent

theres people who can lift a fully armoured knight with one arm? show me please, altho its irrelevent i dont belive that. No but then theres people in the world who at the press of a button can blow cities...

yeh i can make toast, but it takes about minute, like most of sephiroths spells and creating life stream, Kain wont give him that time 😉 also your argument is false, show me how long it takes for materia to be created, just beause its made from lifestream doesnt mean he can create and use it in the split second he has before kain time bolts him

lmao, thats slow, he took about 5 seconds to summon Bahumaht and prove thats Zero, thats not Zero at all, the last one is zero and that took a little while but thats cloud doing that, also not everyone can summon all summons.... [/B]

Its safe too ASSUME!! i see.....thats where most of this argument comes from and Teleport is not to do with speed, you phail, so sephiroth cannot actually teleport? lawls

Loz is still faster then Kains slowass teleporting, by the time he takes the second to do a teleport spell, Loz will already be at the spot.

TK isnt magic, its Sephiroths power, plz actually watch the videos i post, i even put the time in so you dont have to watch the whole video, i showed u Sephiroths TK.

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Sephiroth compresses Holy, its the thing behind him. Once Sephiroth dies it breaks free and is able to stop meteor.

Oh and BTW here is the ulmighty Kain Strength feat:

Sure looks heavier then that motorbike 😕

Originally posted by Terryc250
No my arguements are logical, anyone with common sense would know Sephiroth is faster then Loz, even if he didnt display during his time of toying around, Loz was his creation ffs.. hes just a fraction of Sephiroths power

Loz is still faster then Kains slowass teleporting, by the time he takes the second to do a teleport spell, Loz will already be at the spot.

TK isnt magic, its Sephiroths power, plz actually watch the videos i post, i even put the time in so you dont have to watch the whole video, i showed u Sephiroths TK.

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Sephiroth compresses Holy, its the thing behind him. Once Sephiroth dies it breaks free and is able to stop meteor.

Oh and BTW here is the ulmighty Kain Strength feat:

Sure looks heavier then that motorbike 😕

its his creation so he has to be faster than Loz..hm i see, never thought that the fraction sephiroth used was all speed? no ofc not, it has to be all of sephiroths powers buffed in increase because this guy is faster, Sephiroth must be faster apparently..

nah not really, he wold hit nothing, kain things and he goes into dimenstional, then he near instantly hits all targets at the same time as using reality warp to make reality think kain is hitting several times even if he is hitting once...

i did watch them, tell me at what times he uses other materia

also that holy thing, how is that mist? its nothing like mist and you cant prove by that hes using TK...

no thats a Sarafan knight guard, not a glyph knight, those guards are half the size of a normal knight and wear half the armour, their not even wearing glyphs which are pretty big, their great big guys but even that is a fiarly good feet, considering thats young kain, probably the weakest kain...

also mr strength, show me this serpent thats supposedly 60-90 tonnes in weight

cya later and merry xmas, be back laterz

Yes thats common knowledge, if someone has a fraction of a persons power, usually means the person who gave the power in the first place is superior correct?

He takes a second before he uses the teleport spell, its not instant like Loz' movement speed.

Sephiroth didnt use materia in the vids, hes not even taking the fight seriously.

a snake was found in Bolivia at 4 tons, and im sure it wasnt near this size.

Damn! That thing is bigger than I remember!

Kain seems about even with Raziel in strength here at around 6:40
a wounded Kain and a bloodlusted Raziel no less
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Raziel being the guy who's physically stronger than any vampire and can move around huge stone blocks

there's also his casually ripping the bones out of Raziel's body
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Sephiroth is still physically stronger.

no doubt
he's above Kain in all physical stats

but physical stats will not win this battle or even be used and Loz is not quick enough to catch kain before hes ethereal and unhittable, once he goes into dimensioning, well then none of them have any hope at all, especially sephiroth

and yes if you create someone, your superior...but not neccerily in every aspect, for example Kain created Rahab his son with his own soul, but Rahab can swim in the water, and is a fish, wheras kain burns in water, kain is far far superior to Rahab, but not in every way

also i dont buy that thing weights more than a few tonnes, maybe 5...its impaled isnt it? on a piece of wood? or is that rock, hell thats a tree....lawls at it being 50 tonnes....

also i dont buy that thing weights more than a few tonnes, maybe 5...its impaled isnt it? on a piece of wood? or is that rock, hell thats a tree....lawls at it being 50 tonnes....

You can't be serious.... A real life snake was found weighing four tonnes, and one so much bigger that its impossibly large you say isn't more than 25% heavier?

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
also i dont buy that thing weights more than a few tonnes, maybe 5...its impaled isnt it? on a piece of wood? or is that rock, hell thats a tree....lawls at it being 50 tonnes....

You can't be serious.... A real life snake was found weighing four tonnes, and one so much bigger that its impossibly large you say isn't more than 25% heavier?

i didnt know there was a snake weighing 4 tonnes, show me this snake please, i have not seen it

but it definaltey cant be 40-50 tonnes, thats impossible especially since its on a tree, hell maybe ime right ,that thing considering its layout and what its impaled on could be extremely thin and its scales extremely thin as well, meaing it lighter

Or maybe Sephiroth is just that damn strong? Hulk's fist isn't as hard as adamantium, and he still dented it.

what do you mean damned strong, ime not talking about Sephiroth, that snake cannot be over 30 tonnes or so, unless you can prove the tree its on is made from some kind of uber lumber, snakes can have thin scales, they can be light also since its hollow...the reason why you know when gold is fake because its so much heavier if its real, its not hollow and not plated, wheras a gold plated object is lighter....this thing is likely lighter, and this whole Sephiroth is an uber 90 tonne lifter is all down the drain?

that tree cannot possibly be holding 50-80 tonnes of snake

Originally posted by Burning thought
what do you mean damned strong, ime not talking about Sephiroth, that snake cannot be over 30 tonnes or so, unless you can prove the tree its on is made from some kind of uber lumber, snakes can have thin scales, they can be light also since its hollow...the reason why you know when gold is fake because its so much heavier if its real, its not hollow and not plated, wheras a gold plated object is lighter....this thing is likely lighter, and this whole Sephiroth is an uber 90 tonne lifter is all down the drain?

that tree cannot possibly be holding 50-80 tonnes of snake

more likely seph used magic it on it..or when seph killed it, it impaled itself in its final thrashings..
also, about hulk...i would have thought that by now he could eat adamantium for breakfast 😬
i mean, i read somewhere that he took out a large coastline by stomping once..

Originally posted by MadMel
more likely seph used magic it on it..or when seph killed it, it impaled itself in its final thrashings..
also, about hulk...i would have thought that by now he could eat adamantium for breakfast 😬
i mean, i read somewhere that he took out a large coastline by stomping once..

2. He was about to sink the US East coast with a footstep.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
First of all, part of it is on the ground, the tree is not supporting all its weight. Second of all, you'd be surprised at how strong some trees are. That tree is like at least 60 feet tall, so the snake is actually over 100 feet.

have you any proof of the snakes actual weight or is this all a guess....

i couldnt find that other bolivian snake

But this snake weighs 1 ton, how many times do you think that serpent is bigger then this snake?

Just the width of the snake is about the size of Cloud, maybe even bigger because Cloud is closer to the camera then the snake is

Lets assume Cloud is the same size as that ugly dood in the first pic

Originally posted by Terryc250
i couldnt find that other bolivian snake

But this snake weighs 1 ton, how many times do you think that serpent is bigger then this snake?

Just the width of the snake is about the size of Cloud, maybe even bigger because Cloud is closer to the camera then the snake is

Lets assume Cloud is the same size as that ugly dood in the first pic

(can someone prove it was with his own strength and not some power?)

You know they can't.

He probably physically did it, since he usually just physically handles monsters. But its still possible he used TK