Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pre-Sarg Killy has like...no feats.
This is what keeps me from debating most of the time. Lack of knowledge. Only like three on this forum have actually read the books. The rest go on assumptions, online sources and lousy summaries. It was what had me stop try debate in the other threads and it is what will keep me from debating in this thread 🙂
Originally posted by Furion
Killy BEFORE he pledged his alliance crap with Sarg. Killy was supposed to be the best of his Demon Race.
Before he pledged his allegiance to Sargeras, he was no demon. Only after Sargeras blessed Kil'Jaeden was he turned into Man'ari. Kil'Jaeden was strong before, but his strength then was not even a straw in a haysack compared to how strong he grew thanks to Sargeras.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Prove it. How do you know they were more powerful? Killy's power comes directly from Sarg's himself, it is highly unlikely the races he has fought were stronger.
Both the Nathrezim and the Annihilan race, just as Eredar has their strength and weaknesses. You can not say that either is the other one stronger, since a powerful Nathrezim would defeat a powerful Eredar, although the Eredar holds more power. The Annihilan is reckless and ruthless and bloodthirsty, which makes them able to defeat the Nathrezim, but would be defeated by Eredar.
Saying that something is stronger is bold, especially when it comes to warcraft. Each race has their strength and weakness. Pure power is far from the only thing that rate one race over the other.
Fuddle you keep moaning about people not reading the books when from how you say things you seem to use your opinion as a definite source which is annoying and is not debating especially when your opinion is weightless as a definate argument since its your opinion
youve not played Darkstalkers? LOK? OR Gow?
yet you moan about people not reading the books and think thats an argument enough for people to go and read the books...no...
people who have read the books should scan them in, if they cannot, then its the reason you should use not to debate if you cannot dig up your own proof 😄
although its correct that Sargerus has not many true feats in the light of pyron, same with most titans, all they have known to do is give portions of their power to aspects, create worlds but Pyron can get far larger than the planet Jupiter and would stamp on any Titan or crumble them iif it were a match of size or strength, the only reason they are ackknowledged is that they are often rated as the strongest beings in Warcraftverse and have mostly featless spell list
Originally posted by EvilAngel
How do you know Pyrons energy manipulation > Sargeras's?Lol, that's a bold statement. Last i check Pyron could only absorb planets, Sargeras can create them. Bendig the materials of the universe to creat planets is way more impessive than any feat I've ever Pyron do
i never remember saying Pyrons manip>>Sargeras, but does Sargeras have any energy manip feats?
Sargerus does not create them alone, groups of titans create the planets simply by gouging out holes in the ground or raising mountains, although i dont remember anything saying they actually created the planets themselves
Pyron can absorb planets to increase his size and strength
Originally posted by Burning thought
Fuddle you keep moaning about people not reading the books when from how you say things you seem to use your opinion as a definite source which is annoying and is not debating especially when your opinion is weightless as a definate argument since its your opinionyouve not played Darkstalkers? LOK? OR Gow?
yet you moan about people not reading the books and think thats an argument enough for people to go and read the books...no...
people who have read the books should scan them in, if they cannot, then its the reason you should use not to debate if you cannot dig up your own proof 😄
I have not played Darkstalkers, LoK or GoW. I have read the Warcraft books. I however do not make things up or make assumptions. V2D said that Kil'Jaeden before Sargeras blessing had "like.... no feats"
That is not the first assumption I have seen been made. I am not going to debate anything in this thread, as I mentioned in a previous post. My lack of knowledge of Pyron, combined with the lack of knowledge of warcraft from the counter part would make it a pretty stupid discussion.
I kinda like how Evil Angel addressed me and then BT refuted his post...lol. How is Sargeras' energy manip greater than Pyron's? Name one feat? Pyron converts planets to raw energy, and can convert energy to matter, he can manip matter as well. As BT said, groups of Titans do it, and they don't just think and then poof a planet appears, so evidence says Pyron's energy manip>Sarg's. And I know that Pyron's control over his own fvckin body>>>>>Sarg's control over Pyron's body.
Oh and EA, I don't remember saying in my original post Pyron's energy manip>Sarg.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I kinda like how Evil Angel addressed me and then BT refuted his post...lol. How is Sargeras' energy manip greater than Pyron's? Name one feat? Pyron converts planets to raw energy, and can convert energy to matter, he can manip matter as well. As BT said, groups of Titans do it, and they don't just think and then poof a planet appears, so evidence says Pyron's energy manip>Sarg's. And I know that Pyron's control over his own fvckin body>>>>>Sarg's control over Pyron's body.Oh and EA, I don't remember saying in my original post Pyron's energy manip>Sarg.
What evidence? what are you comparing exactly?
He is energy, energy can be Corrupted. Control is not the point.
Originally posted by EvilAngelPure MAGIC energy. Also, Pyron is not some mass of energy, he is a sentient energy being, he is the energy, how will he corrupt him?
Demonic entities can corrupt pure energy to either ansord or control.Examples being the Sunwell, World Tree, moonwells and the forests, even whole races
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pure MAGIC energy. Also, Pyron is not some mass of energy, he is a sentient energy being, he is the energy, how will he corrupt him?
The World Tree isn't some mass of energy, it sustained the night elves immortality.
Energy can be manipulated, like how Pyrons shapeshifts. That same advantage has this disadvantage, it's just the way it is
Originally posted by EvilAngel1. Okay. It is a mass of focused energy. Still no sentience(that I know of).
The World Tree isn't some mass of energy, it sustained the night elves immortality.Energy can be manipulated, like how Pyrons shapeshifts. That same advantage has this disadvantage, it's just the way it is
2. You just defeated your own argument. Pyron can manip his own body in various ways, to change shape, size, and form. He can also manip energy besides himself. Sarg CAN'T manip Pyron.