Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Okay. It is a mass of focused energy. Still no sentience(that I know of).2. You just defeated your own argument. Pyron can manip his own body in various ways, to change shape, size, and form. He can also manip energy besides himself. Sarg CAN'T manip Pyron.
2. Corruption cannot be fixed by using that which is corrupted
Originally posted by EvilAngelRaces? Pyron isn't a living flesh and blood creature. No relevance.
What proof have you?Sargeras has corrupted races, natural and even entire landscapes.
Impress me
Nature? So he can corrupt trees and forests? Big deal, zero relevance.
Landscapes? ZERO RELEVANCE.
Show me Sarg corrupting energy on a scale like Pyron's.
I did some reading on Pyron, since I am not that well informed of the character and his powers. He seem to be a powerful character of the Darkstalker universe and he devour worlds to his own liking, just how Sargeras strife to destroy worlds. Despite the fact that both of them are destroyers of worlds, I've come to a conclusion.
Pyron will crumble Sargeras.
Originally posted by FuddleReally? Even I don't think Sarg will be some pushover...or do I?
I did some reading on Pyron, since I am not that well informed of the character and his powers. He seem to be a powerful character of the Darkstalker universe and he devour worlds to his own liking, just how Sargeras strife to destroy worlds. Despite the fact that both of them are destroyers of worlds, I've come to a conclusion.Pyron will crumble Sargeras.
He would be of resistance, but he could not save himself from the inevitable end. Sargeras is about double the size a very tall mountain, while Pyron is larger than the largest planet our galaxy has to offer. Even though Sargeras has powers that can counter Pyron, the size of Pyron makes it impossible for Sargeras to win in the long run.
Some say that size would not matter, but in the warcraft universe it does. The larger they are, the heavier they fall. Sure, thats true, however the larger they are the tougher it is to make them fall.
my opinion is that Pyron is likely to smash Sargerus and crumble him to dust if it came to physical battle, however ime not decided since Sargerus has many powers and since VS battles are all non canon in the first place and speculative, i feel with fountation that Sargerus>>>powers of Kiljaeden and Archimonde, who have many soul powers
soul powers could take Pyron for sure, unfortunatley, ime not sure Sargerus can do this fast enough....
also isnt there that immortal attacks immunity, maybe fuddle does not know about it and i dont know the link, i think Utriga or Darth dug it up
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Races? Pyron isn't a living flesh and blood creature. No relevance.Nature? So he can corrupt trees and forests? Big deal, zero relevance.
Landscapes? ZERO RELEVANCE.
Show me Sarg corrupting energy on a scale like Pyron's.
How convient for you, that you believe all ways of major corruption are irrellevent, let go of the dream V2D, Pyron can, and would be corrupted. He have shown you corruption on a major scale. If you think it's not relevent, then you either know something i don't. Or you are dellusional
Originally posted by Burning thought
my opinion is that Pyron is likely to smash Sargerus and crumble him to dust if it came to physical battle, however ime not decided since Sargerus has many powers and since VS battles are all non canon in the first place and speculative, i feel with fountation that Sargerus>>>powers of Kiljaeden and Archimonde, who have many soul powerssoul powers could take Pyron for sure, unfortunatley, ime not sure Sargerus can do this fast enough....
also isnt there that immortal attacks immunity, maybe fuddle does not know about it and i dont know the link, i think Utriga or Darth dug it up
A character does not have to die in order to be defeated. Pyron could never kill Sargeras, but he could defeat him without doubt.
Originally posted by EvilAngelShow me him even corrupting something as big as Pyron. He corrupted races to bend them to his will, that does not mean he can corrupt Pyron. And btw, that is corruption if the MIND, lucky for Pyron he has a very advanced mind that won't be so easily corrupted. Pyron is not a punk ass Eredar, nor is he a tree or landscape, Pyron can't be corrupted. Show me him corrupting something remotely like Pyron.
How convient for you, that you believe all ways of major corruption are irrellevent, let go of the dream V2D, Pyron can, and would be corrupted. He have shown you corruption on a major scale. If you think it's not relevent, then you either know something i don't. Or you are dellusional
Originally posted by Fuddle
A character does not have to die in order to be defeated. Pyron could never kill Sargeras, but he could defeat him without doubt.
Pyron can apprently according to i think it was either Darth or utriga harm Sargerus, so eventually Sarg if he has some kind of power which altho i dont have proof or feats i think on the grounds ive stated he is likely to have, soul powers he could win this
but Sarg is a very unkown character
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Show me him even corrupting something as big as Pyron. He corrupted races to bend them to his will, that does not mean he can corrupt Pyron. And btw, that is corruption if the MIND, lucky for Pyron he has a very advanced mind that won't be so easily corrupted. Pyron is not a punk ass Eredar, nor is he a tree or landscape, Pyron can't be corrupted. Show me him corrupting something remotely like Pyron.
There is nothing in the Warcraft world (Other than planets) that is anywhere near Pyron's size. Sargeras has corrupted concentrated energies, but he has never corrupted living energy such as Pyron.
The only thing similar to Pyron that Sargeras has ever fought is Ragnaros, and Ragnaros is nothing on Pyron. Not even a bug at his strongest, yet Ragnaros lasted a strong amount of time against the entire titan race.
I will stick with my opinion that Sargeras lose 🙂
Originally posted by Burning thought
yes thats a very old rule.....ive known it like...longer than you 😛 ...please dont try and insult intellect, insulting is a form of bashing on this forum no matter how stealthily you try and do it 😄Pyron can apprently according to i think it was either Darth or utriga harm Sargerus, so eventually Sarg if he has some kind of power which altho i dont have proof or feats i think on the grounds ive stated he is likely to have, soul powers he could win this
but Sarg is a very unkown character
I was just mentioning it. I did not mean to bash 😐
Sargeras undoubtly has power over souls, but his range is not infinite. Pyron could attack Sargeras from far far away and Sargeras could not defend himself long against it. He may have soul abilities, but if Pyron has any brain at all he does not go near someone of Sargeras power level.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Show me him even corrupting something as big as Pyron. He corrupted races to bend them to his will, that does not mean he can corrupt Pyron. And btw, that is corruption if the MIND, lucky for Pyron he has a very advanced mind that won't be so easily corrupted. Pyron is not a punk ass Eredar, nor is he a tree or landscape, Pyron can't be corrupted. Show me him corrupting something remotely like Pyron.
Not with energy, it can be corrupted far more simply
The World Tree a very powerful energy based lifeform.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pyron flys away, then flys towards Sarg at FTL speeds and ram him, to at least knock him unconcious if he cannot die.
maybe that would work....but meh, who knows, prob knock him for six but not sure if he can go unconcious, i mean its also unsure that even if Sargerus allowed Pyron to break him apart like he did Argewyn, he may just end up possessing pyron like he does mediv when his avatar shell is broken away
Originally posted by Burning thought
maybe that would work....but meh, who knows, prob knock him for six but not sure if he can go unconcious, i mean its also unsure that even if Sargerus allowed Pyron to break him apart like he did Argewyn, he may just end up possessing pyron like he does mediv when his avatar shell is broken away
Aegwynn was a human sized guardian. Her body was accessable. Pyron is a multiple-planet sized cosmical entity and probably would not be anywhere near access for Sargeras power range.
However, if Pyron was lesser size then your point might work 🙂
Originally posted by Fuddle
Aegwynn was a human sized guardian. Her body was accessable. Pyron is a multiple-planet sized cosmical entity and probably would not be anywhere near access for Sargeras power range.However, if Pyron was lesser size then your point might work 🙂
i dont see Pyron resisting since he has nevre done so, so were guessing even more than suggesting Sarg has jupiter destroying blasts up his sleeve
i think the only way for pyron to win is from contiually smashing Sarg from range with nuclear explosions or excaping to another universe, eats tonnes more planets to become so enormous he dwarves a galaxy for real then slap Sargerus