Sargreas vs Pyron

Originally posted by Burning thought
wha do you mean V2D?

its true only his soul comes out when Sargs body is destroyed but the baby wasnt born, Sarg waited in Aegywyn then took the baby when it was born or was it long after it was born i cant remember, i dont see how having a body makes a diffrent as long as the being has soul or essence hmm

He does not take a body. He transfer himself from body to body. For all we know, from all that is seen, he need to jump from one physical shell to the other.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Sarg does have to leave his own body to possess his opponent yes

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
What I am sayin is that maybe he can't just possess at will, maybe he staged that fight and lost so he could leave his body to possess him.

He can possess at will. His possession was a highly strategical move by Sargeras, that not even the guardians could predict. Since they believed he was defeated, they let their guard down. He did stage his death, but only so that they would actually believe he was defeated and no longer search for him.

If he instantly would have possessed her, she would have known and purged herself, one way or the other.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
But maybe he couldn't without having his body die?

ime not sure what you mean, he cant just leave as a soul, as shown when he came to the planet as an avatar he needed Aegewyn to destroy his physical avatar and then his soul went into her

Originally posted by Burning thought
ime not sure what you mean, he cant just leave as a soul, as shown when he came to the planet as an avatar he needed Aegewyn to destroy his physical avatar and then his soul went into her

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
According to Fuddle, he can possess at will, just needs to come into physical contact.

Within range, more accuratly speaking. He does not actually have to touch the target physicaly.

Anyway, good night all 😄

And a merry christmas 🙂

Originally posted by Fuddle
Within range, more accuratly speaking. He does not actually have to touch the target physicaly.

Night, and Merry Christmas to you and DK.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Another non-sentient energy source...oh joy. There is a difference. Oh, and Pyron's energy>>>World Tree.

Good that helps me perfectly Since it was Archimonde who was going to abosrd the world tree, and Sargeras >>>>> Archimonde

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Good that helps me perfectly Since it was Archimonde who was going to abosrd the world tree, and Sargeras >>>>> Archimonde

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I don't buy into that speculative bullshit. Prove Sarg can absorb or corrupt a being as large and powerful as Pyron.

Archimonde by abosbing the world tree would have corrupted the entire world of Azeroth.

Sargeras is many many times Archimondes power, so if Archimonde can corrupt a world. It is how you would say logical to believe Sargeras is capable of oh so much more.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Archimonde by abosbing the world tree would have corrupted the entire world of Azeroth.

Sargeras is many many times Archimondes power, so if Archimonde can corrupt a world. It is how you would say logical to believe Sargeras is capable of oh so much more.

2. Pyron is at least as big as the sun. You do know the difference between the sun and a planet, right?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. By absorbing the World Tree he would have. Not under his own power.

2. Pyron is at least as big as the sun. You do know the difference between the sun and a planet, right?

2. Of course i do. It's pretty clear to me though you don't know the difference in power between Archimonde and Sargeras.... Thus you don't really know what you're talknig about

Originally posted by EvilAngel
2. Of course i do. It's pretty clear to me though you don't know the difference in power between Archimonde and Sargeras.... Thus you don't really know what you're talknig about

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Okay. Educate me. What is the difference in power between Sarg and Arichmonde. 🙄

Think of the difference between Saruman and Sauron.

Archimonde is a puppet compared to Sargeras, the power difference is not even comparable.

Sargeras gave Archimonde a scrap of his own power. Archimonde went from wizard to mightly powerful demon lord that he was.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Think of the difference between Saruman and Sauron.

Archimonde is a puppet compared to Sargeras, the power difference is not even comparable.

Sargeras gave Archimonde a scrap of his own power. Archimonde went from wizard to mightly powerful demon lord that he was.

True, kinda like how the difference between a planet and the sun is not even comparable.

Yeah. But one thing you don't seem to get is that an amped Arichmonde would be capable of planetary corruption, which means the difference in power between Sarg and Archy would lessen, so we can't just assume Sarg has corruption on that level.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Difference between Sauron and Sarumon is noticable, but by no means vast, both are powerful immortal Maiar.

True, kinda like how the difference between a planet and the sun is not even comparable.

Yeah. But one thing you don't seem to get is that an amped Arichmonde would be capable of planetary corruption, which means the difference in power between Sarg and Archy would lessen, so we can't just assume Sarg has corruption on that level.

Bad example i'm into weird things, so thats the best example i could think of on the spot that i knew you'd get

No neccessarily. Archimonde is capable of planetary corruption, but he was very greedy, thats why he stormed out to the world tree in hope of gain all of it's power. In his arrogence he was defeated. Cenarius was the only real threat to the legion, and Mannoroth got him killed so Archimonde suppossed the feild to be clear of all threats, his arrogence got him killed.

Which IMO is always been weird, In VS forums people assume Archimonde would go full power immediatly, the evidence suggests quite the opposite, he is quite full of himself

As he stormed through Ashenvale he corrupted the inhabitants and nature. Hence the state of Felwood.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Bad example i'm into weird things, so thats the best example i could think of on the spot that i knew you'd get

No neccessarily. Archimonde is capable of planetary corruption, but he was very greedy, thats why he stormed out to the world tree in hope of gain all of it's power. In his arrogence he was defeated. Cenarius was the only real threat to the legion, and Mannoroth got him killed so Archimonde suppossed the feild to be clear of all threats, his arrogence got him killed.

Which IMO is always been weird, In VS forums people assume Archimonde would go full power immediatly, the evidence suggests quite the opposite, he is quite full of himself

As he stormed through Ashenvale he corrupted the inhabitants and nature. Hence the state of Felwood.

2. Then why did he want the World Tree? Damn it, WoW storylines are so confusing...Is he capable of corrupting the entire planet without the World Tree?

3. PIS is not included in fights, CIS is unless specified otherwise.

4. Pyron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(infinate)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>forest. thanduros

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Too bad it phailed. 😉

2. Then why did he want the World Tree? Damn it, WoW storylines are so confusing...Is he capable of corrupting the entire planet without the World Tree?

3. PIS is not included in fights, CIS is unless specified otherwise.

4. Pyron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(infinate)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>forest. thanduros

1. I no 🙁

2. Because of Kil'jaeden, Archimonde strikes as the kinda of guy who hates being second best, especially to Kil'Jaeden who is also alot smarter than he is. He say teh World Tree as a way of becoming more powerful than Kil'Jaeden, and went for it, no matter the risks.

3. CIS, he's arrogent, that's just a floor in his character.

4. Depends what forest, the one from FF7:AC can burn out your eyes with it's white-ness.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. I no 🙁

2. Because of Kil'jaeden, Archimonde strikes as the kinda of guy who hates being second best, especially to Kil'Jaeden who is also alot smarter than he is. He say teh World Tree as a way of becoming more powerful than Kil'Jaeden, and went for it, no matter the risks.

3. CIS, he's arrogent, that's just a floor in his character.

4. Depends what forest, the one from FF7:AC can burn out your eyes with it's white-ness.

2. Oh okay. But can he corrupt an entire planet under his own power?

3. Hmmm...then that should be taken into account unless specified.

4. Or the one that Gouki grew up in, it touched Gouki, so it is sacred.