Originally posted by leonheartmm
and maybe i understand being uncertain about anal sex{seeing as it can hurt and that most guys can be inconsiderate assholes when it come to taking care of their female partner in that area-- not all but most. } although sum i know r confy there too, but really, why wud any woman{or any man for that matter} be unconfortable with any type of oral sex? 😬 😕
Originally posted by leonheartmm
also, i am not just saying that much of lesbian porn isnt made for men.{althoug that is a relevant point}
im asking why men get turned on by lesbians in the first place?
Watching porn - whether it’ s heterosexual or lesbian porn – is in most cases simply a means to an end: the orgasm. Watching porn can add to a couple' s sexual enjoyment, or be a quick and reliable way to relieve sexual tension solo. People watch porn to get off on visual stimulation because it makes them horny. And nothing gets to that point better than porn.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
not true, it isnt simply a case of TWO NAKES GIRLS IS BETTER THAN ONE.the ACT of lesbian love/affection/sex seems to be very alluring to mos men. theyd rather see{generally} two girls doing each other than two girls doing two guys seperately.
...you just answered your own question.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^ but you are forgetting the rather large shouju/seinen manga/anime/soft picture industry in japan. practically every girl i know who is into gay erotica is into that kinda of stuff. apparently many are nuts over it.and maybe i understand being uncertain about anal sex{seeing as it can hurt and that most guys can be inconsiderate assholes when it come to taking care of their female partner in that area-- not all but most. } although sum i know r confy there too, but really, why wud any woman{or any man for that matter} be unconfortable with any type of oral sex? 😬 😕
also, i am not just saying that much of lesbian porn isnt made for men.{althoug that is a relevant point}
im asking why men get turned on by lesbians in the first place?
Most guys? Have you done some sort of survey?
Originally posted by Storm
Because they don' t like the taste nor the smell, because their partner doesn’ t have a clue about what he/she is doing, perhaps they' ve had a bad experience, etc. There may be a lot of reasons why people don' t like the idea of performing oral sex on their partners. Do you enjoy the idea of tasting your own semen?Because it' s a stimulant to male passion, because it' s less threatening, ...
Watching porn - whether it’ s heterosexual or lesbian porn – is in most cases simply a means to an end: the orgasm. Watching porn can add to a couple' s sexual enjoyment, or be a quick and reliable way to relieve sexual tension solo. People watch porn to get off on visual stimulation because it makes them horny. And nothing gets to that point better than porn.
not at all. i do not like the idea. but i do very much like the idea of putting my head between the legs of the woman im with/love {do remember that im a virgin, but my overwhelming preference is what i have stated}, infact id prolly be overenthusiastic about it 😛 . {not being sarcastic btw}. also doesnt tase and smell{atleast for women and maybe to an extent for me} depends on how clean you are patially? i mean, i really dunno for a fact about the variances, but id assume it cudnt be all horrible cud it, definately not enough to actually DETER sum1 from doing it if they want to right? 😕
ahan, i know that, but then why is it that so many hetro men orgasm while watching lesbian porn? i mean, it doesn make much sense does it, and even the orgasm, from an evolutionary point of view, is a means of motivating people to have sex and hence children. so then why do men have greater preference for lesbians than for hetro couples?{and id argue that porn isnt really the BEST way to get there for sum people}
Originally posted by Robtard
Most guys? Have you done some sort of survey?
dont have to do i. the way cultures are evolving an what i see aroung me. most men are not exactly great lovers. ofcourse, most wud say im GAY for thinking that way. basically, cultures where women are thought of as sex objects do not really tend tp produce men who care much about their partners. i see it all around me.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
dont have to do i. the way cultures are evolving an what i see aroung me. most men are not exactly great lovers. ofcourse, most wud say im GAY for thinking that way. basically, cultures where women are thought of as sex objects do not really tend tp produce men who care much about their partners. i see it all around me.
LoL... so in lieu of substantiating your claim, you post a bullshit answer.
^hmmm, u seem like the type to enjoy putting people down. i can give you a better answer but it is too tiresome and the ambiguity of what YOU consider as credible enough evidence will continue to remain. so there is no point.
and anyway, if i asked you to substantiate the claim that men did not love/care for their wives in ancient arabic tribal societies and concurently, did not care much about women's sexual pleasure. wud you be able to give me a better answer than the one i gave you. not really, without going into a large discussion on prevailing norms, culture as defined by anecdotes/poetry/stories/art etc, and still prevailing views.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^hmmm, u seem like the type to enjoy putting people down. i can give you a better answer but it is too tiresome and the ambiguity of what YOU consider as credible enough evidence will continue to remain. so there is no point.and anyway, if i asked you to substantiate the claim that men did not love/care for their wives in ancient arabic tribal societies and concurently, did not care much about women's sexual pleasure. wud you be able to give me a better answer than the one i gave you. not really, without going into a large discussion on prevailing norms, culture as defined by anecdotes/poetry/stories/art etc, and still prevailing views.
Oh really, I seem that type now? You know, attributing negative aspects to people is "putting someone down", like you just did to me. It's simple, you made a claim, I asked you to substantiate it; you gave a B.S. answer. Now you're claiming you could, but why would/should you bother, which is more B.S.
I wouldn't make that claim you purpose (ancient Arabic love), because I couldn't substantiate it, see how it works?
^emperecists annoy me to no end at times. the above claim is also true btw. really, you cant wait for a study to be done on every single oppinion you keep, many of them are apparent and wud be excessively hard to prove in a study because it encompasses so many things that it makes such studies nearly impossible to set up.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^emperecists annoy me to no end at times. the above claim is also true btw. really, you cant wait for a study to be done on every single oppinion you keep, many of them are apparent and wud be excessively hard to prove in a study because it encompasses so many things that it makes such studies nearly impossible to set up.
You said "most men are inconsiderate assholes" and "most men are not great lovers"; I'm just asking for you to substantiate it, as both claims seem odd. If you can't, just say so.
and what kind of evidence are you expecting from me here? lets start with that. what wud qualify the statement to you? shud i bring up studies done on specific crietria of "assholes" in the world or the us where a representative sample was studied and judged to be ASSHOLES or not. or shud i quote studies done on women and how many of them think that their partners are assholes? lol.
its a general statement and an impression youll get very easily. its a simple fact that a lot of men do not specifically care about or have the knowhow of how to please women. it can be seen in tradition as many women did not get to satisfy themselves sexually before and its only been in the 70s tha the female orgasm was even payed much social attention. heck 50 odd years ago it was very normal to think that they female orgasm didnt even exist and the advice given to women being married was to just lay there and let their husbands have their way with them. active participation in sex, has only come out in the open reletively recently.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and what kind of evidence are you expecting from me here? lets start with that. what wud qualify the statement to you? shud i bring up studies done on specific crietria of "assholes" in the world or the us where a representative sample was studied and judged to be ASSHOLES or not. or shud i quote studies done on women and how many of them think that their partners are assholes? lol.its a general statement and an impression youll get very easily. its a simple fact that a lot of men do not specifically care about or have the knowhow of how to please women. it can be seen in tradition as many women did not get to satisfy themselves sexually before and its only been in the 70s tha the female orgasm was even payed much social attention. heck 50 odd years ago it was very normal to think that they female orgasm didnt even exist and the advice given to women being married was to just lay there and let their husbands have their way with them. active participation in sex, has only come out in the open reletively recently.
You (not me, not someone else) made the claim; you substantiate it, which part of that can't you grasps? So?
I will, are you sure about that? Now it's a fact, really? I guess I can't expect some sort of proof or logical reasoning from you to back that claim-fact up? Also, we're talking about today, not the past and the work of Alfred Kinsey.
Originally posted by StormI know lots of women who like gay male sex. However, I also know a lot who are disgusted by it.
Gay erotica is produced for gay men, there is no effort made to portray women playing any role in the sexual activities depicted, so it lacks any power to arouse us. Women also almost never get turned on by gay erotica because it includes sexual acts we feel uncertain about such as oral and anal sex.Lesbian porn is most often produced for men. Its portrayal of sexual activities is frequently shown as an introduction to heterosexual sex. Hence, it is seen as being a stimulant to male passion.
Re: Re: evolutionary significance of LESBIAN fetishes/sexual attraction by men
Originally posted by Robtard
There has to be some dudes cock in the picture, for you eh?*cough* homo *cough*
Apparently many men are more aroused by porn that involves at least one other man because it stimulates aggression and competition responses. And from that I would guess lesbian porn would be arousing because there is no competition.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Not everything in life has evolutionary importance.😬
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You mean god is the reason we like lesbians? omg
Re: Re: Re: evolutionary significance of LESBIAN fetishes/sexual attraction by men
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Apparently many men are more aroused by porn that involves at least one other man because it stimulates aggression and competition responses. And from that I would guess lesbian porn would be arousing because there is no competition.
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...and maybe it's just sexually arousing to see all that pussy together in one place.