Sephiroth v.s. Raziel

Started by Burning thought11 pages

Raziel has already won, so as usual for some reason it goes off topic, Terry wants to debate sephiroth VS kain for some reason.....

Continue then.

Zomulgustav FTW.

you love that guy. so who is he? a character you invented for you own universe?

Yep. The creator of the Lynx Legends Multiverse.

😛 Satan in my universe would crush him

Pfft please. But I don't wanna stray this off-topic, let's take it to the OTT.

lol stray an already off-topic thread off topic..hnmm, only Leroy jenkins can do that

LOL.

Originally posted by MadMel
exactly!

Saying things like that and just assuming kain will allow it doesnt make sense 😛
kain could easily TK shackle seph while hes rising through the air, then he'll be helpless..
if seph comes close to destroying kains body he explodes and reforms, and if seph tries anything while he reforms, he explodes and reforms out of seph's reach..

Ur forgetting the fact that Sephiroth is muchf aster then Kain, and has much more abilities, a stronger TK, and that he can chop Kain from limb to limb before kain even finishes fading, Kain doesnt reform instantly either.

your ignorence to Kain has gone on far enough, even Madmel finds it ridiculous it seems and he rarely debates on here recently, its funny how you think sephiroth can do anything at all, kain can reflect anything Sephiroth does, Supernova wont do anything.....he can do it 100 times and Kain will laugh while Sephiroth is angered, he would either have his shield up and stand unharmed, or burst into nothingness to reform as he usually does, you cannot destroy or harm kain to any permanent degree

you keep saying Seph will fly......wasting time to fly up is terrible, if Sephiroth stops attacking kain for a single second, hes lost the entire battle, kain in that second could easily have his siheld up, then its lights out, TK to stop sephiroth, then time stop him, infact he would prob give Sephiroth that haircut just to humiliate him


Sephiroth has a shield too, so? Show me Kains shield stopping attacks on Sephiroths calibre, then say it can be useful. Sephiroth will finish Kain IN one second or less, then as he tries to reform Sephiroth will freeze him, and encase him in ice, then toss him into a lake.

Sephiroth now knows ice attacks?

Yeah at his weakest form, before he went crazy he had all element attacks at their max, fire ice lightning earth etc

Originally posted by Terryc250
Ur forgetting the fact that Sephiroth is muchf aster then Kain, and has much more abilities, a stronger TK, and that he can chop Kain from limb to limb before kain even finishes fading, Kain doesnt reform instantly either.

Sephiroth has a shield too, so? Show me Kains shield stopping attacks on Sephiroths calibre, then say it can be useful. Sephiroth will finish Kain IN one second or less, then as he tries to reform Sephiroth will freeze him, and encase him in ice, then toss him into a lake.

no he isnt, he has no speed feats, its only in a fanboys mind he is much faster, kain as ive shown you in many vids can match or even outclass sephiroth in movement, his TK is weaker, stop overhyping TK blast, he cant even hold people for long and has never held a small object.....rubbish, he starts fading straight away, in which he is immaterial, Sephiroth would hit nothing but air....

dont need to, the shield of kain says it stops all attacks, projectiles and reflects magic, show me sephiroths sword slashing an immortal vampire, you prob cannot, or any of his spells touching kain.....hes never fought an opponent near kains level. In one second kain will of thrown sephiroth, TK bound across the sky before freezing him solid in TK, then time blasting him....game..set..match, sephiroth has no chance

hell "try" to freeze him, only to have it reflect off kains shield and freeze sphiroth, or kain simply fire blasts and melts any ice

after Kain's shield goes off, Sephiroth strikes. Sephiroth is more then capable of freezing Kain in 5 sec.

Originally posted by Burning thought
no he isnt, he has no speed feats, its only in a fanboys mind he is [B] much faster, kain as ive shown you in many vids can match or even outclass sephiroth in movement, his TK is weaker, stop overhyping TK blast, he cant even hold people for long and has never held a small object.....rubbish, he starts fading straight away, in which he is immaterial, Sephiroth would hit nothing but air....

dont need to, the shield of kain says it stops all attacks, projectiles and reflects magic, show me sephiroths sword slashing an immortal vampire, you prob cannot, or any of his spells touching kain.....hes never fought an opponent near kains level. In one second kain will of thrown sephiroth, TK bound across the sky before freezing him solid in TK, then time blasting him....game..set..match, sephiroth has no chance

hell "try" to freeze him, only to have it reflect off kains shield and freeze sphiroth, or kain simply fire blasts and melts any ice [/B]

first of all, use ur logic, we see Sephiroth on screen for 10 minutes, playing around, common sense tells you he is faster then the beings who are weak remnant of himself, who will be faster, a person who is 100%(Sephiroth) or a person who is 10%(Loz)?

Its slow, he fades out which takes a second, then as he starts fading back in, Sephrioth will see it, then he'll be behind him, cutting him in a few hundred pieces just as hes finished fading in.. Then as Kain tries to reform (dont even say "zomg u cant do that Kain has pwnage shieldz!1" because Kain cant use a shield as hes reforming) Sephiroth will freeze him, and toss him in a lake.

YA!!!!11 MAKE IT LAKZ OF TA DEAD!!1

Originally posted by Terryc250
first of all, use ur logic, we see Sephiroth on screen for 10 minutes, playing around, common sense tells you he is faster then the beings who are weak remnant of himself, who will be faster, a person who is 100%(Sephiroth) or a person who is 10%(Loz)?

Its slow, he fades out which takes a second, then as he starts fading back in, Sephrioth will see it, then he'll be behind him, cutting him in a few hundred pieces just as hes finished fading in.. Then as Kain tries to reform (dont even say "zomg u cant do that Kain has pwnage shieldz!1" because Kain cant use a shield as hes reforming) Sephiroth will freeze him, and toss him in a lake.

false, this is a piece of sephiroth, according to Csdabest, the speed piece of him, so he is equel to Loz in speed

you must be looking at another video m8, and what? what if kain teleports half a mile away, or behind a building.....Sephiroth has nothing on him, and if Kain dimension teleports its much faster than anything sephiroth can do....show me Sephiroth using freeze materia, and its casting speed please....

Kain will duche sephiroth before he can do anything, a move of his hand is all it takes and sephiroth is a gonner

what can Kain do with a move of his hand.

Originally posted by Furion
what can Kain do with a move of his hand.

most of his spells, shield, time bolt etc etc, but at the time of writing i had Tk in mind, with Sephiroth his puppet in TK, Sephiroth is doomed, in a wave of his hand, he could use the TK shackles TK power, which holds sephiroth in the air, his arms and legs chains apart and unable to move in TK energy

Zomulgustav.

Originally posted by Burning thought
false, this is a piece of sephiroth, according to Csdabest, the speed piece of him, so he is equel to Loz in speed

you must be looking at another video m8, and what? what if kain teleports half a mile away, or behind a building.....Sephiroth has nothing on him, and if Kain dimension teleports its much faster than anything sephiroth can do....show me Sephiroth using freeze materia, and its casting speed please....

Kain will duche sephiroth before he can do anything, a move of his hand is all it takes and sephiroth is a gonner

umm if that was true then Kadaj represents his skills, and Sephiroth is about 100x more skilled, Sephiroth would take out all 3 of them in under 3 seconds, with his eyes closed, if Kain tries to run, then Sephiroth will jus fly up in the air, take his time and use the negative lifestream

You see it in Sephiroths inventory when he was apart of ur team during the flashback, but you didnt get to control Sephiroth, and all he did was slash up giant dragons, but if u went into the menu and looked in his inventory, he had ice3, fire3, quake3, cure3, etc, etc, it takes a second to cast just like it takes to cast any magic in ffvii, but Sephiroth will chop up Kain first, or destroy him, then as hes trying to reform, he'll freeze him.


most of his spells, shield, time bolt etc etc, but at the time of writing i had Tk in mind, with Sephiroth his puppet in TK, Sephiroth is doomed, in a wave of his hand, he could use the TK shackles TK power, which holds sephiroth in the air, his arms and legs chains apart and unable to move in TK energy

Sephiroth is faster then Kain, he'll TK kain even faster and if its AC Sephiroth, he'll crush Kain.. then he'll chop up whatever left over.