Sephiroth v.s. Raziel

Originally posted by Terryc250
Why not? Its slow compared to Sephiroth. He wont get hit by it unless he lets it hit him, other then that, it has no chance of hitting Sephiroth at 100%

youve not seen the time bolt at all, and i cant show you it either, so your going to assume its slow? lol......against the speed featless sephiroth..i see, as if Kain is just going to cast one, as well as if kain would just watch it following the fleeing sephiroth.....he would TK sephiroth frozen stiff, and then Sephiroth would be hit by the bolt...the end

^ How does it fail? How can something slow hit Sephiroth? Explain, ive been told its not really fast at all, from ppl who have seen it.

Or Sephiroth would chop Kain in half since hes much faster, Kain tries to reform Sephiroth freezes Kain, tosses him in a lake, the end.

Originally posted by Terryc250
^ How does it fail? How can something slow hit Sephiroth? Explain.

i just did.......you dont kno its speed, i cant show u its speed, Sephiroth has no speed feats......Sephiroth wont be moving due to Tk anyway....so......you fail...failed logic

Why would Sephiroth be in TK? Sephiroth is faster, and has a more powerful TK then Kain, Sephiroth speedblitz' kain before he can try anything.

Lol if you want to talk about Kain vs Seph, bring it over to da All powerz Seph thread. I like how people just turned this into a Kain vs Seph thread.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Why would Sephiroth be in TK? Sephiroth is faster, and has a more powerful TK then Kain, Sephiroth speedblitz' kain before he can try anything.

false, his TK is weaker, more desturctive but at holding, its simple and weak...kains is improved and more specific TK, he could throw Sephiroths weapon or make it impale himself if he wanted

Sephiroth has no speed feats

Kain Dimension blitzes sephiroth, slices him once who then gets blasted to pieces

Originally posted by Furion
Lol if you want to talk about Kain vs Seph, bring it over to da All powerz Seph thread. I like how people just turned this into a Kain vs Seph thread.

True, but not really because that was full powered seph, only with weakened Kain, Kain sitll won tho ofc lol...

Originally posted by Burning thought
false, his TK is weaker, more desturctive but at holding, its simple and weak...kains is improved and more specific TK, he could throw Sephiroths weapon or make it impale himself if he wanted

Sephiroth has no speed feats

Kain Dimension blitzes sephiroth, slices him once who then gets blasted to pieces

True, but not really because that was full powered seph, only with weakened Kain, Kain sitll won tho ofc lol...

Sephiroth held 8 ppl at once while holding back Holy(destructive enough to destroy a planet) and this was a weaker Sephiroth

Kain holds onto an old man, and soldiers one at a time.

Weaker Sephiroths speed, his creations, facts, evidence hints us at AC Sephiroths speed at 100%

Kains "dimension blitz" requires him to feed his reaver, then use it right away after its been fed, and it still takes a second before he can actually use it.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sephiroth held 8 ppl at once while holding back Holy(destructive enough to destroy a planet) and this was a weaker Sephiroth

Originally posted by Terryc250
Kain holds onto an old man, and soldiers one at a time.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Weaker Sephiroths speed, his creations, facts, evidence hints us at AC Sephiroths speed at 100%

Originally posted by Terryc250
Kains "dimension blitz" requires him to feed his reaver, then use it right away after its been fed, and it still takes a second before he can actually use it.

why is this still being dabated, seph cannot do anything to stop kain..so eventaully, kain will win...the end!

ummmm Kain's sons evolved.
Sephiroth Speed blitz Kain, freezes him then chops him up into tiny pieces, freezes those pieces and dumps those pieces in a lake

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sephiroth held 8 ppl at once while holding back Holy(destructive enough to destroy a planet) and this was a weaker Sephiroth

Kain holds onto an old man, and soldiers one at a time.

Weaker Sephiroths speed, his creations, facts, evidence hints us at AC Sephiroths speed at 100%

Kains "dimension blitz" requires him to feed his reaver, then use it right away after its been fed, and it still takes a second before he can actually use it.

your such a joker, i suppose it is so close to new years, had too much to drinkie

he held 8 people badly, the people were pushing towards him many occasions and nearly got within reach of him....and these are flimsy little cloud and co...no Kain, also wtf is this being debated, how is sephiroth having Tk at all make any diffrence to kain? kain teleport out of any TK or mist, Holy? you said already at some point he was just stopping Aeris from summoning it

Kain held moebius who has great will but furthermore, moved small objects like his staff, and can cause pain through his TK, also the old man cannot break free, like all kains opponents, also sephiroth unlike Kain cannot TK shackle, that is to say, Tk an opponent then do something else while their stuck, which will be sephiroths fate

no facts at all m8, your assumptions, the guy has no speed feats, simple as

no, thats when he had blood reaver, the soul reaver powers on souls which he has Raziel inside to power the thing, and no he does not have to use it straight away, false....no it doesnt take a second to use, he just powers up...the only way it could take a second is if some idiot (do you do this?, you prob never played the game anyway lol) held down the key to activate it 😛

Originally posted by Furion
ummmm Kain's sons evolved.
Sephiroth Speed blitz Kain, freezes him then chops him up into tiny pieces, freezes those pieces and dumps those pieces in a lake

hes not faster than kain, a blitz would need sephiroth to be much much faster, but all we have is assumptions of his speed anyway, freeze him? if i know most sephiroth spells which i do, he takes an age and a half, prob a good long time to sit and do any spell, ive not seen him do it ever...chops him in pieces, good try...wouldnt get 3 feet in front of kain before zap, trapped in TK and having his body blasted by the reaver into bits....

We haven't seen AC Seph true potential. He wasn't taking the fight seriously. All that you are talking about is like 10% of what Seph was doing in AC. If Seph did 100%, used all his skill and fought with every spell he has, Kain would phail. All that we've seen from AC Seph was barely anything.

10%?? BS!
more like 60%
seph cannot do anything to stop kain parmanently....end of story!

wasn't trying at all. 60% my ass. Seph was smirking during the fight. If Kain can't be defeated thanks to his Explode and Reform tactic, then maybe Kain shouldn't be used in these fights and should be paired up against Pyron and Jedah seeing as he's so uber. If Seph stabbed Kain 50 times in the head, mist = instant inferno. and the only option would be to explode and reform, that would be destroying Kain physical body for a brief moment but enough to count as a win. It's been made clear Kain can't die, but all you need to do is KO the guy.

thats the thing..
exploding and reforming instantly doesnt count as a KO 😬
also, kain has been matched up again pyron and jedah in speerate threads....i think they were closed due to too many insults being thrown around in them...either that or they died...

it isn't instant.

gameplay..if we came back instantly everytime we died playing that game, it'd be much too easy 😬

ummmmmmmmmmmm no, it would just be shorter. Prove it's gameplay mechanic or else

gameplay mechanic = check point and loading times 😄
in the game, kain can only reform at..................wait for it.....checkpoints!
the game has to load before we go back to the checkpoint..another gameplay mechanic
therefor, reforming at a checkpoint, and the fact that it takes time for it to load, makes it a series of gameplay mechanics 😛

you fail, not me 🙄

no, prove it only takes an instant and not about 5 to 7 sec for Kain to Reform

ah ok
not instantly, but about 4-5 seconds..when i said instantly, i meant he doesnt fly back to a checkpoint 😂
but he could fly outta seph's reach to reform..the bats move faster than he does..