Sephiroth v.s. Raziel

Originally posted by Burning thought
so, show me, ive not played FF7, everyone whos played all 5 LOK games knows Kain would crush sephiroth into the dirt at the same time as most FF characters, and thats if i agree he can make any materia, but thats not all ime askiing, ime asking you to show me anything that says Materia can be created instantly by sephiroth simply from lifestream....ill use your argument, sephiroth may have the bread (lifestream) but can you show me the toaster? (the means to create the lifestream), also you just said rawrest form, it takes a transaction to make it into a pure form (the materia final)

theres no cast at all m8....cast in what? he doesnt cast anything to teleport in SR 1 video, and theres no real cast in dimension teleport, you simply activate the ability, he goes green and a second later, he blitzes all opponents much faster than what Sephiroth has shown, and thats beliving he can move as quick as Loz anyway. Kains normal teleport is good for giving him distance on Sephiroth, in that distane he can put up his shield=Sephiroth a gonner, or simply go into another dimension, perhaps spectoral, which ofc Sephiroth is doomed again, or he could simply shoot a time bolt or more than one, activate the time reaver so all time around him goes to a crawl, sephiroth wont be able to go into melee range....he fades instantly, there is no cast.....his destructive forces like meteor are slow and the negative lifestream would not do anything......Sephiroth wouldnt even gesture before he is blown to pieces by a Soul reaver strike. Thats using normal Teleport, Dimension teleport will blitz sephiroth and kains first hit would finish the guy...

kain will never be hunted lol...Sephiroth will simply be to arrogent to run, which ofc wil be his downfall to someone like Kain who is more than his match

Ive asked ppl who have played LOK not all 5 but have played 2, and they said Sephiroth would beat Kain

Prove to me kains shield is unbreakable, Oh you cant? Didnt think so.

yes there is a cast time, turning green is the cast time

Sephiroth is obviously faster then Loz, anyone with common sense can tell you that one

Kains normal teleporting is slow as sh*t and will only be good for running, thats if Sephiroth doesnt chop off his head before he starts to fade

Originally posted by Terryc250
Ive asked ppl who have played LOK not all 5 but have played 2, and they said Sephiroth would beat Kain

Prove to me kains shield is unbreakable, Oh you cant? Didnt think so.

yes there is a cast time, turning green is the cast time

Sephiroth is obviously faster then Loz, anyone with common sense can tell you that one

Kains normal teleporting is slow as sh*t and will only be good for running, thats if Sephiroth doesnt chop off his head before he starts to fade

then they have no conception of the game at all then, or their fanboys like you are "shrug" simply word of mouth is not good enough, you could prob find 100 sephiroth fan girls to back you up, theyll say sephiroth wins even if they admit theyve only seen pictures of him and not seen his games

i cant? dont answer for me little man
http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/bo1/spells.php

sorry i kno its not a final fantasy site, maybe ill simply translate for you however

REPEL

Kain says:"Invoking this spell cloaks me under a protective aegis. Whatever spell is cast at me will be reflected back at the caster, leaving me unharmed. It will only last for a short time, however, before leaving me vulnerable once more."

basics of the spell:This spell created a magical shell around Kain. Until it wore off, he was protected against all enemy attacks, including all types of projectile.

immunity against Spells that are even reflected back, immunity against all kinds of attacks AND projectiles...

Turning green is a cast time? okie the flash while sephiroth is moving is his movement time....same same...

common sense or plain Sephiroth fanboyism/fangirlism

before he starts to fade, he fades instantly, simple as, he simply starts fading on will..he doesnt move his hands or say a gesture, hes just gone...then he could be anywhere and sephiroth wouldnt have a clue, not before the reaver is handing through his chest seconds before the soul blast rips sephiroth into fragments

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Trance Kuja >>>(x100,000,000) Sephiroth by a lot

Exactly how long does this Shield last BT? Vid please

Originally posted by Furion
Exactly how long does this Shield last BT? Vid please

It's a shield the same size as a bullet hidden somewhere on his person that lasts for 0.01 seconds and if Sephiroth tries to shoot him and hits the shield his plot to kill Kain will be foiled!

Originally posted by ESB -1138
It's a shield the same size as a bullet hidden somewhere on his person that lasts for 0.01 seconds and if Sephiroth tries to shoot him and hits the shield his plot to kill Kain will be foiled!

Originally posted by Furion
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Exactly how long does this Shield last BT? Vid please

theres no vid, it lasts about 30 seconds or so, more than long enough at least to for him to cast it again after 25 seconds past, but its a game from prob windows 95/98 so theres no Vid

Sephiroth hide and wait. after wears off, Seph appear and spear Kain and burn him.

Originally posted by Furion
Sephiroth hide and wait. after wears off, Seph appear and spear Kain and burn him.

Furion are you seriously debating lol....

as i just said, Kain could recast the shield, its not like its a one use item, its an actual spell he knows, sephiroth can cast materia (okie ive not seen him cast much of anything actually) so..hmm....well ime sure FF characters can cast more than one fireball, like in AC, that guy launcehs several, well this shield is kains spell, he can recast the spell, he could in theory be invulerable constantly as soon as he gets the first shield up

impaling or burning kain will do him no good, also its unlikely fire will do anything, as Kd123 (sry if i got the name wrong) posted, kain is basically immune to fire, he was in the underworld and did not burn and even walks through flames at the end, you would have to burn kain with water, and kain can reform and cannot be killed/destroyed so tat would not work, the only way to defeat kain is to contain him...which sephiroth has no power to do so

5 sec < Sephiroth's speed. Seph would come out of nowhere and impale him. Then he does some random spell. Vaporizing always works.

Originally posted by Furion
5 sec < Sephiroth's speed. Seph would come out of nowhere and impale him. Then he does some random spell. Vaporizing always works.

no i said 5 seconds before the shield breaks, so seph woudlnt touch kain

Vaporizing wouldnt work, you cant kill/destroy kain at all..he would com back randomly or vapourisng woudlnt work at all, also when can Sephiroth vaporise? with what exactley..random spell? lol..so wil kain then

impale wont work, kain ahs too many ways of escaping and sephiroth from what ive seen has no real speed feats

Madmel who also played it just said it was around 30 seconds, as well, how is sephiroth going to have a hope in hell surviving 30 seconds, hes a gonner for sure....kain simply dimensoins to him and blasts him apart, or TKs him, then he wont do anything

Originally posted by Furion
5 sec < Sephiroth's speed. Seph would come out of nowhere and impale him. Then he does some random spell. Vaporizing always works.

Vaporizing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSVNbxjdvv8

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You try and explain how that kinda power wouldn't hurt Kain

mist dodge 😬
also, even if that did hit kain...guess what?
explode and reform 😛

VAPORIZE! COMPLETE OBLITERATION! IT WOULD TURN THE MIST TO NOTHING!

kain mist isnt normal mist..weve already seen magical vaporising attacks go right through it in BO1..
also, if that actually somehow hits kain and hurt him -
EXPLODE AND REFORM

If that actually happened wouldn't that count as a KO since Sephiroth DEFEATED not KILLED Kain.

no, becuase kain comes back...everytime kain gets close to getting K.O'd, he explodes and reforms, fully healed..

THIS KAN BEATA KAIN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YcIQYCkJPI