hmm this is a hard one !!
Remeber when Goku was traningwith the 40 ton weigts in other world its highly likely that since king kais planets had a force of 10X gravity, that the Grand kais planet would have gravity 100time that of eart as it is also used as a traning ground.so its would have actually been around 400tons.
which i think is stillfar too low, since when fighting piccolo in the 23rd tenkaichi budokai, piccolo gew to an imense size and his body would have weighed around 100tons, and goku lifted him and this was before DBZ !!
when it comes to strength id say ( end of GT)
Goku base form- 120,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj-200,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj2- 500,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj3- 750,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj4- 1000,000,000000 ton
or something like tha
I actaully tried to calculate gokus strenght usng the 40ton scene , ( forgetting about the intense gravity ) i estimated that in ssj3 goku can lift around 150,000 tons ! ( alot different to my readings above i now)
As for speed, well its common knowledge that piccolo say radditz is faster than light speed, yet after trainign with king kai, beign many times faster than radditz it still taks goku 2 days to run 10 thousand miles, yet in the manga i herd snake way is something like million miles
Its really hard to say these kinds of things but hey, theres benver been anything goku cant lift
Vegeta Said to android 20:
"You tought your mathematical projections will tell you all you needed to known.
We saiyans can not be reduced to numbers"
I quote this not because I am against your calcultion, is because your calculation will change if you take the feat when piccolo is giant into consideration, Piccolo has the size of a building, this is in DB.
He was using it when Kid Buu fired a blast at him, and he couldn't get out of the way fast enough using conventional speed, so he IT'd out of the way.
It can be used for maneuvers like that in battle, sure, but it's no substitute for actual speed. When he used it against Cell to dodge an attack, Cell commented that he was impressed, but then he started blitzing the crap out of him despite the fact that Goku had IT and he didn't.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
He was using it when Kid Buu fired a blast at him, and he couldn't get out of the way fast enough using conventional speed, so he IT'd out of the way.It can be used for maneuvers like that in battle, sure, but it's no substitute for actual speed. When he used it against Cell to dodge an attack, Cell commented that he was impressed, but then he started blitzing the crap out of him despite the fact that Goku had IT and he didn't.
Goku not only avoid the atack, he counter attack Buu, And Cell was holding back against Goku, Goku SSJ 1.
What i said in my previous post is what it happen in the manga, your version about avoiding only the blast is not.
He was fighting, Kid Buu was kicking from underground at the same time he fire a blast, Goku port and kick in the head of the kid Buu, I dont know what others have being saying, but Goku can use Istant Transmision in a fight, and this feat prove it.
Originally posted by BradBalboa
hmm this is a hard one !!Remeber when Goku was traningwith the 40 ton weigts in other world its highly likely that since king kais planets had a force of 10X gravity, that the Grand kais planet would have gravity 100time that of eart as it is also used as a traning ground.so its would have actually been around 400tons.
which i think is stillfar too low, since when fighting piccolo in the 23rd tenkaichi budokai, piccolo gew to an imense size and his body would have weighed around 100tons, and goku lifted him and this was before DBZ !!
when it comes to strength id say ( end of GT)
Goku base form- 120,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj-200,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj2- 500,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj3- 750,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj4- 1000,000,000000 tonor something like tha
I actaully tried to calculate gokus strenght usng the 40ton scene , ( forgetting about the intense gravity ) i estimated that in ssj3 goku can lift around 150,000 tons ! ( alot different to my readings above i now)
As for speed, well its common knowledge that piccolo say radditz is faster than light speed, yet after trainign with king kai, beign many times faster than radditz it still taks goku 2 days to run 10 thousand miles, yet in the manga i herd snake way is something like million miles
Its really hard to say these kinds of things but hey, theres benver been anything goku cant lift
Though this guy is out there with his numbers. I think he has a point. Does the planet that Goku was training on in that scene being discussed so much, have intense gravity?
Originally posted by BradBalboaMan you were digging weren't you if all this were true if Goku were to slap the ground the earth would split in half..Your calculations are so wrong.
hmm this is a hard one !!Remeber when Goku was traningwith the 40 ton weigts in other world its highly likely that since king kais planets had a force of 10X gravity, that the Grand kais planet would have gravity 100time that of eart as it is also used as a traning ground.so its would have actually been around 400tons.
which i think is stillfar too low, since when fighting piccolo in the 23rd tenkaichi budokai, piccolo gew to an imense size and his body would have weighed around 100tons, and goku lifted him and this was before DBZ !!
when it comes to strength id say ( end of GT)
Goku base form- 120,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj-200,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj2- 500,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj3- 750,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj4- 1000,000,000000 tonor something like tha
I actaully tried to calculate gokus strenght usng the 40ton scene , ( forgetting about the intense gravity ) i estimated that in ssj3 goku can lift around 150,000 tons ! ( alot different to my readings above i now)
As for speed, well its common knowledge that piccolo say radditz is faster than light speed, yet after trainign with king kai, beign many times faster than radditz it still taks goku 2 days to run 10 thousand miles, yet in the manga i herd snake way is something like million miles
Its really hard to say these kinds of things but hey, theres benver been anything goku cant lift
(quote)Though this guy is out there with his numbers. I think he has a point. Does the planet that Goku was training on in that scene being discussed so much, have intense gravity?
well im guessing it does, since kig kais plane is used asa training ground and its gravity ios te times earths, so since grand kais is a level above that i rekon its would have gravity 100 tmes stronger but even if it isnt is aleast still 10 times stronger, i just think its more likely to be 100 X makes sense no ?
