DBZ charecter physical stats & limits

Originally posted by BradBalboa
hmm this is a hard one !!

Remeber when Goku was traningwith the 40 ton weigts in other world its highly likely that since king kais planets had a force of 10X gravity, that the Grand kais planet would have gravity 100time that of eart as it is also used as a traning ground.so its would have actually been around 400tons.

which i think is stillfar too low, since when fighting piccolo in the 23rd tenkaichi budokai, piccolo gew to an imense size and his body would have weighed around 100tons, and goku lifted him and this was before DBZ !!

when it comes to strength id say ( end of GT)

Goku base form- 120,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj-200,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj2- 500,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj3- 750,000,000,000 ton
Goku ssj4- 1000,000,000000 ton

or something like tha

I actaully tried to calculate gokus strenght usng the 40ton scene , ( forgetting about the intense gravity ) i estimated that in ssj3 goku can lift around 150,000 tons ! ( alot different to my readings above i now)

As for speed, well its common knowledge that piccolo say radditz is faster than light speed, yet after trainign with king kai, beign many times faster than radditz it still taks goku 2 days to run 10 thousand miles, yet in the manga i herd snake way is something like million miles

Its really hard to say these kinds of things but hey, theres benver been anything goku cant lift

Those numbers are way too high.

WAAAAAAAAAAAY too high, in base form Goku can't lift 10 tons.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
WAAAAAAAAAAAY too high, in base form Goku can't lift 10 tons.

based on the grand kai planet traning scene ? ha i think not Grand kais planet would hav higher gravity just like king kais either the same 10 X or 100 X so it was alot more, plus goku has lifted more thanthat in dragonball !! atleat 100 tons

Originally posted by BradBalboa
based on the grand kai planet traning scene ? ha i think not Grand kais planet would hav higher gravity just like king kais either the same 10 X or 100 X so it was alot more, plus goku has lifted more thanthat in dragonball !! atleat 100 tons

Thing is, South Kai and King Kai, who both know what the gravity difference is, reffered to it as 2 tons, so in their planet, it is equivelant to 2 tons.

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
Those numbers are way too high.

normal: 10 tons

ssj 1:120-150 tons

ssj 2: 1000-1500 tons

ssj 3:10000-12000 tons

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
He has not lifted more than that in DB, he PUSHED more than that, huge difference.

Thing is, South Kai and King Kai, who both know what the gravity difference is, reffered to it as 2 tons, so in their planet, it is equivelant to 2 tons.

Both of those statements are illogical.

There is a friction coefficient in physics. A coefficient of .5 means you have to exert a force that is 50% of the mass of the object. f=ma

f= force

m=mass

a=acceleration

What did he push and where? If he pushed a rough object on a rough surface, he may have ended up having to exert more than a friction coefficient of 1...meaning he exerted more than the force required to simply move 100 tons.

There is no logic to base that assumption on. The word "ton" is an English word from Earth. They very well could have been using words that mean what they weight of the object was on earth. Also, if you are on a planet with greater gravity than your home planet, the acceleration of gravity is higher. Your "gait" would be different in the higher gravity and characteristic running wouldn't occur until a higher speed. (Trust me on this...in lower gravity, you start to jog at a slower speed....relative to Earth.)

Considering the Kais are supposed be some sort of Demi-gods, they may have been intelligent enough to say that the weights were really 2 tons...in that gravity. That defeats the whole purpose of this debate to begin with.

Also, they could very well have been in higher gravity...just like the Kai's planets.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Both of those statements are illogical.

There is a friction coefficient in physics. A coefficient of .5 means you have to exert a force that is 50% of the mass of the object. f=ma

f= force

m=mass

a=acceleration

What did he push and where? If he pushed a rough object on a rough surface, he may have ended up having to exert more than a friction coefficient of 1...meaning he exerted more than the force required to simply move 100 tons.

There is no logic to base that assumption on. The word "ton" is an English word from Earth. They very well could have been using words that mean what they weight of the object was on earth. Also, if you are on a planet with greater gravity than your home planet, the acceleration of gravity is higher. Your "gait" would be different in the higher gravity and characteristic running wouldn't occur until a higher speed. (Trust me on this...in lower gravity, you start to jog at a slower speed....relative to Earth.)

Considering the Kais are supposed be some sort of Demi-gods, they may have been intelligent enough to say that the weights were really 2 tons...in that gravity. That defeats the whole purpose of this debate to begin with.

Also, they could very well have been in higher gravity...just like the Kai's planets.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
You're a dick. 😂

That's funny, I usually get "you're a nerd". LOL! 😆

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
WAAAAAAAAAAAY too high, in base form Goku can't lift 10 tons.

He is doing martial arts with 8 tons, 2 tons in each limb, levitating..
and

You know that lifting and tossing someone off - balance is not all brute force.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
You know that lifting and tossing someone off - balance is not all brute force.

Yeah, but it still takes alot strength though. Without power techniques are pointless.

Did I say it didn't take any strength?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Did I say it didn't take any strength?

My bad.

for christs sakes, ok guys, if goKU couldnt lift 10 tons in base form that would mean spiderman yes fuking SPIDERMAN is twice as strong as goku in base form since HE can lift 20 tons which isnt right ( well he can i mean goku, not lifing it isnt right) in base form goku can lift atleast a few hundred tons, think about it even the saiyan and frieza saga the things they do hig people threw mountians ..could goku do that could he only lift 10tons ?? NO !! when vegeta was asking dr briefs to get the graivity to go up2 300 X he was shocked saying " you body will feel like it weighs 18tons !" in amazement, DBZ is sooo inconsistant and im sure you all agree with me, at that poin vegeta can lift hundreds of tons not a measily 18!!

Goku wasn't trying to lift 10 tons, he was using the weights for an isometrics excersize. Which is why it's not a good idea to use that feat.

Strength at base is probably minimum of 45~ TONS.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Strength at base is probably minimum of 45~ TONS.

10,000 is alot.

Originally posted by Classic NES
10,000 is alot.

I wanted to do that, but there's zero proof that SSJ increases their strength ten fold.