Okay then I can see your point and therefore I'm going to give Sidious the Force battle. But I'm going to give the lightsaber battle to Bane because;
1. he's a great fighter
2. Sidious hasn't really impressed me in the saber department ( that awful fight with mace)
3. Bane's orbalisks make him impregnable (90%) and mean that he can sacrifice defence for offence.
All-out: dunno, maybe Bane because he can just block Force lightning with his 'saber
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Okay then I can see your point and therefore I'm going to give Sidious the Force battle. But I'm going to give the lightsaber battle to Bane because;
1. he's a great fighter
sure is
Originally posted by Darth ExodusHe dispatched 3 jedi masters easily whom were described as the orders greatest swordsman in the 25 000 year history, and the fact that sidious uses a lightsaber form consisting of several different forms which does not follow a sequence bane remembers and the fact that sidious can continously move faster than the eye can see throughout an entire duel.
2. Sidious hasn't really impressed me in the saber department ( that awful fight with mace)
Originally posted by Darth ExodusRight, and orbalisks can get damaged seeing that mandalorian iron whom is lightsaber resistant can get cut open if swug hard enough.
3. Bane's orbalisks make him impregnable (90%) and mean that he can sacrifice defence for offence.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusLmfao, and sidious has mastered every aspect of the force, he can perform techniques bane has never heard off and would get owned,
All-out: dunno, maybe Bane because he can just block Force lightning with his 'saber
Remember palpatines variation of the force storm? Which was powerful to destroy an entire fleet including his own ship as well as being able to rip apart a planets surface?
Hell sidious can even use the fallanasi technique to mask his connection so bane can't sense his presence and hence his pregonition becomes useless.
Or the fact that sidious can cut bane off the force or completely destroy his force bond which kills him instantly.
He dispatched 3 jedi masters easily whom were described as the orders greatest swordsman in the 25 000 year history.
What on Earth! Those guys where crap as hell! If that's the best that the Jedi can do then I've really lost respect for them.
and the fact that sidious uses a lightsaber form consisting of several different forms which does not follow a sequence bane remembers
(Grudgingly) Well maybe.... 🙁
Bane's still a saber beast though.
sidious can continously move faster than the eye can see throughout an entire duel.
When does this happen? Certainly not in that awful fight with Mace. 😆
Right, and orbalisks can get damaged seeing that mandalorian iron whom is lightsaber resistant can get cut open if swung hard enough.
Sidious is like what, 90? Hows he going to swing hard enough with out breaking both wrists? And just because mandalorian iron can be cut doesn't mean that orbalisks can.
Hell sidious can even use the fallanasi technique to mask his connection so bane can't sense his presence and hence his pregonition becomes useless.Or the fact that sidious can cut bane off the force or completely destroy his force bond which kills him instantly.
Bane knows the Fallanasi technique as well ( Zannah uses it in RO2).
And since when has Sisious known Nihilius' Force Killer technique?
I still think that Bane would just win in a saber fight. Sidious may get tired like he did against Mace.
Also the orbalisks feed off darkside energy so that might do something.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
When does this happen? Certainly not in that awful fight with Mace. 😆Sidious is like what, 90? Hows he going to swing hard enough with out breaking both wrists? And just because mandalorian iron can be cut doesn't mean that orbalisks can.
2. dooku was 80 in rots, and he was doing just fine 😬
Originally posted by Darth ExodusAccording to canon, they are stronger than almost all the jedi in the 25 000 year history
What on Earth! Those guys where crap as hell! If that's the best that the Jedi can do then I've really lost respect for them.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
(Grudgingly) Well maybe.... 🙁
Bane's still a saber beast though.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusDark empire.
When does this happen? Certainly not in that awful fight with Mace. 😆
Originally posted by Darth ExodusDoes age matter? No it doesn't, yoda at 800 years old still could fight like a beast. Its not like you can't use the force to boost your strength.
Sidious is like what, 90?
Originally posted by Darth ExodusForce aided strength? Just as dooku used the force to aid his kick to send anakin flying across the room?
Hows he going to swing hard enough with out breaking both wrists?
Originally posted by Darth ExodusYes it can, because it was stated to be highly resistant, NOT immune.
And just because mandalorian iron can be cut doesn't mean that orbalisks can.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusProve it, quote it and elaborate.
Bane knows the Fallanasi technique as well ( Zannah uses it in RO2).
Originally posted by Darth ExodusSince he has been stated to master every force technique in the dark empire sourcebook.
And since when has Sisious known Nihilius' Force Killer technique?
Originally posted by Darth ExodusYour an idiot, no offence but where did palpatine hint he was tired? First off he has not fought for 13 years, and him being able to put up a fight against yoda and mace displays incredible power despite the fact he was out of practise for 13 years, Oh right how i forgot he was defeated under CIRCUMSTANCES, vaapad? Shatter point?
I still think that Bane would just win in a saber fight. Sidious may get tired like he did against Mace.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusKey word, might. Not will.
Also the orbalisks feed off darkside energy so that might do something.
Your an idiot, no offence but where did palpatine hint he was tired?
Its been stated that Sidious used Force Rage (kotor 2) on those lame, "great" jedi at the start. Then as the dual continued he tired because of this.
And by the way, I never get offended by anything.
Prove it, quote it and elaborate.
I can 't prove it right or quote it as I'm on holiday at the moment and don 't have the book. I'll be back tomorrow though. To elaborate, Zannah cloaks herself in the force and then uses this to sneak up on the Echani Jedi and kill her. Read the fight scene.
According to canon, they are stronger than almost all the jedi in the 25 000 year history
I've never much cared for canon in Star wars and this just backs me up. Those Jedi were grade C wimps.
That means bane gets owned because he cannot counter something he has never seen it before.
Untrue to the extreme.
Luke managed to beat Vader without knowing all (if any) of the Forms.
Davorit killed Sith without any extensive forms training.
Revan probably didn't have all the knowledge of the forms and did fine.
Real lightsaber prowess comes from the persons strength in the Force and the Forms only help as stated in POD. (stands for applause) 😄
Originally posted by Darth ExodusLol that "rebuttal" was so stupid to a point i can't even be bothered to tear it apart with a counter arguement.
Its been stated that Sidious used Force Rage (kotor 2) on those lame, "great" jedi at the start. Then as the dual continued he tired because of this.
And by the way, I never get offended by anything.I can 't prove it right or quote it as I'm on holiday at the moment and don 't have the book. I'll be back tomorrow though. To elaborate, Zannah cloaks herself in the force and then uses this to sneak up on the Echani Jedi and kill her. Read the fight scene.
I've never much cared for canon in Star wars and this just backs me up. Those Jedi were grade C wimps.
Untrue to the extreme.
Luke managed to beat Vader without knowing all (if any) of the Forms.
Davorit killed Sith without any extensive forms training.
Revan probably didn't have all the knowledge of the forms and did fine.
Real lightsaber prowess comes from the persons strength in the Force and the Forms only help as stated in POD. (stands for applause) 😄
Btw nebaris, i can tell your trying to cover your true identify by coming into this forum acting stupid like you don't know anything, its funny you don't know how to edit your posts as you claim yet you know how to quote like we all do...
Originally posted by Darth ExodusStated by whom?
Its been stated that Sidious used Force Rage (kotor 2) on those lame, "great" jedi at the start. Then as the dual continued he tired because of this.
And by the way, I never get offended by anything.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusIll check up on this, but this looks like a controversy seeing neither one of them ever met the fallanasi.
I can 't prove it right or quote it as I'm on holiday at the moment and don 't have the book. I'll be back tomorrow though. To elaborate, Zannah cloaks herself in the force and then uses this to sneak up on the Echani Jedi and kill her. Read the fight scene.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusThen you shouldn't debate nor be taken seriously, the novel is G-canon save for certein parts which are overwritten by the movie.
I've never much cared for canon in Star wars and this just backs me up. Those Jedi were grade C wimps.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusActually luke was learning under obi wan and yoda for lightsaber combat, so he WAS using a lightsaber form.
Luke managed to beat Vader without knowing all (if any) of the Forms.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusLol the sith in the BOD era are bantha fodder who were easily KILLED by children who SWUNG lightsabers like monkeys.
Davorit killed Sith without any extensive forms training.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusMore bullshit from you, prove he didn't know any forms.
Revan probably didn't have all the knowledge of the forms and did fine.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusThanks for backing me up, sidious > bane in the force so hence forth he smashs him to pieces in a saber duel.
Real lightsaber prowess comes from the persons strength in the Force and the Forms only help as stated in POD. (stands for applause) 😄
Btw nebaris, i can tell your trying to cover your true identify by coming into this forum acting stupid like you don't know anything, its funny you don't know how to edit your posts as you claim yet you know how to quote like we all do...
I'M NOT FUDGING NEBARIS!!! 😠 😠
I'm not acting stupid I just am( a bit) and I'm new!
And as for the quotes, well there's a bloody instruction manual in the post reply thing.( [help])
Anyway....
Stated by whom?
I'm not sure. I'll get back to you on that but right now I need to catch a bus. I think it was in Wikipedia in the force powers section. Or underneath a clipart.
Ill check up on this, but this looks like a controversy seeing neither one of them ever met the fallanasi.
That we know of. And Revan could have met them in the outer rims.
Actually luke was learning under obi wan and yoda for lightsaber combat, so he WAS using a lightsaber form
It took Bane mounths to learn the forms and he has a huge learning rate. Luke didn't have enough time. And he wouldn't have known Vader's modified style any more than Bane would know Sidious' and he still prevailed.
More bullshit from you, prove he didn't know any forms.
Not enough time. It takes years to master Forms and Revan only had about a month. She still rock's though. Also no Form system in kotor1.
Have to go. see you tomorrow
@Exodus
Not enough time. It takes years to master Forms and Revan only had about a month. She still rock's though. Also no Form system in kotor1.
Ok first of all Revan is a guy. And it as never stated he had a month to learn different forms. It is fairly obvious that the very least he knew 2 forms. One form he used was with a single blade though we don't know what it was and based on the exile's memory of Revan (from the mando. wars) in the tomb on korriban he has practiced jar kai. And even if there was a month in between the events of the begining to end of kotor it does not discount the fact that it is possible for him to recover his memories of his previous saber forms and then there is the Tulak Hord holocron but we wont bother with that.
It took Bane mounths to learn the forms and he has a huge learning rate. Luke didn't have enough time. And he wouldn't have known Vader's modified style any more than Bane would know Sidious' and he still prevailed.
There was a at least a few months in between ESB and ROTJ plus it is possible Luke could learn a little about Vader's form since he did face him twice before ROTJ. Plus Luke beat Vader by using the darkside and giving into his anger while Vader wanted to use Luke to kill the emperor.
And Revan could have met them in the outer rims.
We would need proof of this. But it seems unlikely because he went in search of the true sith.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusQuit acting stupid , i KNOW who you are.
I'M NOT FUDGING NEBARIS!!! 😠 😠
I'm not acting stupid I just am( a bit) and I'm new!
And as for the quotes, well there's a bloody instruction manual in the post reply thing.( [help])
Anyway....
Originally posted by Darth ExodusAnd according to the novel he was not in a state of "rage"
I'm not sure. I'll get back to you on that but right now I need to catch a bus. I think it was in Wikipedia in the force powers section. Or underneath a clipart.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusNothing to back your claims seeing the fact that revan went to look for the sith, not the fallanasi and the fact that according to POD, it was stated that all the techniques in revans holocron are dark sided techniques, not lightside techniques.
That we know of. And Revan could have met them in the outer rims.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusAnd the exile took mere minutes to learn them, does that mean shes better than bane? No.
It took Bane mounths to learn the forms and he has a huge learning rate.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusHe had 3 years from ANH to ROTJ.
Luke didn't have enough time.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusHe still prevailed due to circumstances, hell even luke admits so post dark empire saying that vader could have easily killed him at any point of time if he wanted to.
And he wouldn't have known Vader's modified style any more than Bane would know Sidious' and he still prevailed.
Hell and unlike bane, luke does not rely on memorising saber sequences. Oh right nebaris, just because luke can beat vader in situation X it means bane can beat palpatine in a different situation where there are no circumstances.
How i forgot luke studied under yoda and obi wan whom were tutoring anakin for like what decades? Luke would have knowledge of vaders fighting style considering the fact that he fought vader in TESB where he would know how he fights.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusIts called "gameplay mechanics". That DOES not mean there are no forms because gameplay isn't canon. And revan had only one month? What have you been smoking? He has been studying in the academy for years until he became a sith lord, MORE than enough time to master saber forms.
Not enough time. It takes years to master Forms and Revan only had about a month. She still rock's though. Also no Form system in kotor1.
Have to go. see you tomorrow [/B][/QUOTE]