Dark empire sidious vs RO2 bane.

Started by NateGreySummers9 pages

The four major feats people list for Palpatine:

1. He drained an entire Planet.

Right, except he never drained an entire planet, but an unknown amount of energy from one over several different points of time to slow down his rate of aging.

2. He drained billions of beings.

Right, except he never drained billions of beings, but an unknown amount over several different points of time for the same reason listed above.

3. He lifted the Lusyanka, and mindwiped millions.

Right, except these assertions at best are logical speculation, with no real basis in fact.

4. He can summon force storms.

Right, which is completely useless in a close ranged battle scenario, and which is ritualistic in nature, that doesn't draw off of Palpatine's power, and actually grants him control over them.

Yeah, that guy sure is one hell of a pimp.

Originally posted by NateGreySummers
The four major feats people list for Palpatine:

3. He lifted the Lusyanka, and mindwiped millions.

According to the essential guide to characters and the almighty gideon, your wrong nebby. Nobody ever said he lifted the ship but the fact remains he DID mind wipe millions of people, and the tens and thousands needed to operate his ship.

Originally posted by NateGreySummers

Right, which is completely useless in a close ranged battle scenario, and which is ritualistic in nature, that doesn't draw off of Palpatine's power, and actually grants him control over them.

Yeah, that guy sure is one hell of a pimp.

Apparantly it IS useful in a 1v1 situation, hell the audio book stated he was about to summon a force storm to rip luke and leia apart but was unable to do so because he was cut off the force before hand.

Lol. Hey, Nebaris.

Who is this Nebaris that you speak of?

Originally posted by NateGreySummers
Who is this Nebaris that you speak of?

Denial is of the dark side. 😐

A word of advice: if you don't want to be so easily identified, you might want to think up of more original expressions instead of ones that you've used numerous times ("ritualistic in nature"!).

I'm all for you sticking around and debating, but that's likely not gonna happen.

My money is on Sidious.

Originally posted by Captain REX
My money is on Sidious.

This isn't some Star Wars strip club!

😐

Originally posted by Sylar
According to the essential guide to characters

Which says nothing about Sidious doing that. Try reading the material first before referring to it.

and the almighty gideon, your wrong nebby.

Right, and the almighty Nate says Gideon doesn't know what he's talking about.

Nobody ever said he lifted the ship but the fact remains he DID mind wipe millions of people, and the tens and thousands needed to operate his ship.

You quite clearly haven't even read the material, and don't know what you're talking about. That stuff's not stated anywhere in canon.

Apparantly it IS useful in a 1v1 situation, hell the audio book stated he was about to summon a force storm to rip luke and leia apart but was unable to do so because he was cut off the force before hand.

I really don't see why I'm even replying to someone who -- at best -- recycles other people's used arguments, but you're still wrong. Both the DE GN and SB state the same thing: that Palpatine was going to use the force storm to decimate the Rebel Alliance fleet, and that's all that's stated, and even if he were going to, it doesn't change the fact that there's nothing that suggests that Palpatine can use it on such a small scale without destroying himself. Given how he could just transfer his spirit into a clone body in case of physical death, it really wouldn't have mattered to him if he used it on Luke and Leia and destroyed himself in the process.

Right, and the almighty Nate says Gideon doesn't know what he's talking about.

And the previously established "ALMIGHTY GIDEON" (capital letters for dominance!) says that when you make some valid points on the issue, he will be happy to bring the issue up to debate.

You asserting that "he duz not kno wut hiz talcing abot!one!!11!" doesn't make it so, sport. 😉

Originally posted by NateGreySummers
Which says nothing about Sidious doing that. Try reading the material first before referring to it.
It was not stated under palpatine's profile nebby. Hell it was S_w_legend and gideon who provided the quote, i am merely stating what came from them, ESPECIALLY gideon whom i find that he has no reason to lie or make up shit seeing the fact it is safe to assume he has the widest knowledge of star wars in KMC and he knows where all the facts came from, if he didn't then why did he type out the quote?

Originally posted by NateGreySummers

Right, and the almighty Nate says Gideon doesn't know what he's talking about.
Right zeh uber nebaris has no idea what anybody is talking about hence the "Gideon doesn't know what he's talking about"

Originally posted by NateGreySummers

You quite clearly haven't even read the material, and don't know what you're talking about. That stuff's not stated anywhere in canon.
The thing is nebaris, why do you care so much for canon when at the same time you argue against it?

Originally posted by NateGreySummers

I really don't see why I'm even replying to someone who -- at best -- recycles other people's used arguments,
And when have i done that? Oh right making a claim which gideon prove = recycling others arguements.
Originally posted by NateGreySummers

but you're still wrong. Both the DE GN and SB state the same thing: that Palpatine was going to use the force storm to decimate the Rebel Alliance fleet, and that's all that's stated, and even if he were going to, it doesn't change the fact that there's nothing that suggests that Palpatine can use it on such a small scale without destroying himself. Given how he could just transfer his spirit into a clone body in case of physical death, it really wouldn't have mattered to him if he used it on Luke and Leia and destroyed himself in the process.
Go listen to the audio book, again you FAIL to acknowledge canon, another indicator that you ARE nebaris.

Argue all you want nebby, i'm piss tired of arguing with a social reject and an outcast of society.

How many socks do you have, neb?

Originally posted by Gideon
And the previously established "ALMIGHTY GIDEON" (capital letters for dominance!) says that when you make some valid points on the issue, he will be happy to bring the issue up to debate.

You asserting that "he duz not kno wut hiz talcing abot!one!!11!" doesn't make it so, sport. 😉

Yeah, because I'm really going to post every single piece of canon SW material and analyse them sentence by sentence just to prove that you're wrong. Right. The guy who pretends to watch Heroes was claiming that something that doesn't exist in canon actually exists in canon, and indicated that you were the one who originally [wrongly] pointed this out. I know for a fact that such a thing is never stated or shown in canon, ergo if what "The guy who pretends to watch Heroes" was saying about you is true, you quite clearly don't actually know what you're talking about.

*waits for a burden of proof fallacy from a certain someone*

BTW, wink at me and call me "sport" ever again, and I will bombard your Private Messages box with Ushgarak's private collection of Hentai pictures, and believe me, that's some nasty sh1t.

I don't see why everyone thinks bane is so great? in RO2 the echani jedi would have killed him in easily if it weren't for his orbalisks.
on page 275 in RO2 last paragraph of the page

"raskta's blue blades flickered too quickly for the eye to see , neutralizing her enemy's initial, wild attack then landing half a dozen lethal blows to his chest and abdomen"

without his armor raskta would have annihilated bane in seconds.

Sidious would have no problem with Bane at all.

And Exodus you arguing with canon(fact) is like going up to your mother or father and arguing that the attack on the world trade center never happened.

do you understand that if something is fact no matter how much you try to argue against it you are still wrong.

Originally posted by NateGreySummers
. *waits for a burden of proof fallacy from a certain someone*
I really don't see why I'm even replying to someone who -- at best -- recycles other people's used arguments
I will bombard your Private Messages box with Ushgarak's private collection of Hentai pictures, and believe me, that's some nasty sh1t.
Yeah, that guy sure is one hell of a pimp

Inferring that Bane can beat Sidious and Luke in 1v1 battles. Insulting a mod as well as Saying Sylar is using recycled arguments. You seem to know a lot about the users here while only registering on December 15 and Nebaris last account was banned about a week before and you argue for the same things.Downplaying Sidious. The talk of burden of proof sounds very familiar too. Appears to know a lot more than most new comers and has access to numerous sources. Not main traits that a true newcomer would have and there is no way that it is a coincidence.

Conclusion:Nebaris ..............why do you even bother coming back? Why don't you start fresh on some other board and stay off kmc because this is getting old real fast you have easily been banned over 10 times and yet here you are again. I have nothing against you but this is just ridiculous now.

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
I don't see why everyone thinks bane is so great?

Well, perhaps his strength in the force - stated as being far greater than the entire BoD's - is one reason.

Or, perhaps, how he was able to absorb energy (in the form of lightning) so powerful that it was described as consuming "anything and everything in its path" and was said to have eventually destroyed the entire planet if all the Sith Lords had kept the ritual going, fully harnesses it, and redirects it with a planet wide scale.

in RO2 the echani jedi would have killed him in easily if it weren't for his orbalisks.
on page 275 in RO2 last paragraph of the page

"raskta's blue blades flickered too quickly for the eye to see , neutralizing her enemy's initial, wild attack then landing half a dozen lethal blows to his chest and abdomen"

without his armor raskta would have annihilated bane in seconds.

Clearly you missed the part where Bane doesn't give a shit about defending himself properly with the protection provided by his orbalisk armour. He even runs right at a Jedi without his lightsaber activated at one point; would you argue he'd do the same without the armour in this case as well?

Sidious would have no problem with Bane at all.

Please. Perhaps if we were to go by your absurd logic. Nothing even points to Sidious being a top 10 force user. He's a second rate force user at best.

Please. Perhaps if we were to go by your absurd logic. Nothing even points to Sidious being a top 10 force user. He's a second rate force user at best. [/B]

Yep, clearly Noobaris. Arguing against canon and logic. Rex, can you ban this fool? He embarasses himself everytime he comes back here. Second rate force user, LOL.. Yes, lets argue with GL, various canon sources, and the ancient sith. What a moron.

Originally posted by NateGreySummers
Yeah, because I'm really going to post every single piece of canon SW material and analyse them sentence by sentence just to prove that you're wrong. Right. The guy who pretends to watch Heroes was claiming that something that doesn't exist in canon actually exists in canon, and indicated that you were the one who originally [wrongly] pointed this out. I know for a fact that such a thing is never stated or shown in canon, ergo if what "The guy who pretends to watch Heroes" was saying about you is true, you quite clearly don't actually know what you're talking about.

*waits for a burden of proof fallacy from a certain someone*

BTW, wink at me and call me "sport" ever again, and I will bombard your Private Messages box with Ushgarak's private collection of Hentai pictures, and believe me, that's some nasty sh1t.

So, the above diatribe is essentially useless; you don't have the "desire" (aka, the means) to prove your "point".

Sheesh, Nebaris. I stick up for your intellect and you let me down. Again. Better luck next time, sport. 😉

1. Nihilus.
2. Sekot.
3+. Various powerful Ancient Sith.
4. Sion.
5. Nyax.
6. Luke.
7. Jacen.
8. Raynar.
9. Lomi Plo.
10. Kyp.
11. Bane.
12. Exar.
13. Nadd.
14. Sidious. 👇

Unlucky about that.

Originally posted by NateGreySummers
1. Nihilus.
2. Sekot.
3+. Various powerful Ancient Sith.
4. Sion.
5. Nyax.
6. Luke.
7. Jacen.
8. Raynar.
9. Lomi Plo.
10. Kyp.
11. Bane.
12. Exar.
13. Nadd.
[b]14.
Sidious. 👇

Unlucky about that. [/B]

A list? LOL.

That's the best you've got? Guess we better watch our backs for the nights you've gotta pick up groceries.

Raise your game or get the hell off the court.

Sport. 😉

Originally posted by Gideon
Sport. 😉

LOL. Clearly someone's desperate to get their eyes on Ush's private picture collection. If you really want to see it, you only have to ask Gideon.