Dark empire sidious vs RO2 bane.

Started by Darth Hord9 pages

I'm just gonna Revan does know lightside techniques since he was jedi before a sith and you simply don't forget them. And it would be weird for a sith lord to put lightside techniques in a sith holocron. Then of course he learns lightsided techniques after his mind was reprogrammed and he regains everything after kotor. But there is no chance that he knows the fallanasi technique.

Was the fallanasi even around during kotor?

I doubt so, and even if he did met the fallanasi, he wouldn't have made the holocron because he made it as the DLOTS, not as the redeemed revan.

And sith never would include a non-darkside technique which further lowers the already extremely low chance for Bane.

Actually thats not true, lightside techniques can be extremely useful. Which is why palpatine went to master every single force power.

I think what your trying to say is revan or any sith wouldn't input lightside techniques in the holocron but rather dark side knowledge.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
Actually thats not true, lightside techniques can be extremely useful. Which is why palpatine went to master every single force power.

I think what your trying to say is revan or any sith wouldn't input lightside techniques in the holocron but rather dark side knowledge.

That is what I said, just without using the word holocron.

A few things to put into perspective:
1.Palpatine's age means not a damn. He's in a younger body and can fight DAMN well with a lightsaber in it.
2. enough 'those Jedi were WIMPS' BS, because the rest of the former Jedi are only seen in video games, books or comics-not a great way of judging skill. Stop declaring canon hyperbole and cling like a lamprey to a single book. It's just plain sad

Sorry for lateness of reply's. I've been really busy

Quit acting stupid , i KNOW who you are.

Believe what you want but can everyone just please stop calling me that. It's probably really insulting.

Ok first of all Revan is a guy

Revan can be, and for me always will be, a girl if I want her to be. Stop popping my dreams.

We would need proof of this. But it seems unlikely because he went in search of the true sith.

Unlikely, but possible. And we know next to nothing about the TEN years of Zannah training. Alot can happen in ten years.

And sith never would include a non-darkside technique

Revan wasn't like other Sith.

And the exile took mere minutes to learn them, does that mean shes better than bane? No.

Hell yeah she is!!! The Exile's potential is nearly limitless. That's why you could grow to lvl 70 in the game.

[qoute]Hell and unlike bane, luke does not rely on memorising saber sequences. [/quote]

Bane doesn't just rely on saber sequences. He got thrown off in that battle in the temple because he had never fought anyone with dual saber's. Just like Luke was off in his first fight with Lumiya.

How i forgot luke studied under yoda and obi wan whom were tutoring anakin for like what decades?

Yoda didn't have a lightsaber (lost it in ROTS)so he couldn't have taught him anything (as we can see from Luke's wild fighting style) and he was only with Kenobi for 2 days or so.

[qoute] And revan had only one month? What have you been smoking? He has been studying in the academy for years until he became a sith lord, MORE than enough time to master saber forms.[/quote]

I'm talking about after she lost her memories. Including those of lightsaber styles.

Bane's a beast in combat with huge offensive and defencive capabilities and although Sidious is great too he would (just) lose.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Sorry for lateness of reply's. I've been really busy

You seem to lack any reasoning and logical abilities, as well as knowledge of star wars canon policy, so you ARE acting like Noobaris.

Revan can be, and for me always will be, a girl if I want her to be. Stop popping my dreams.

Nobody cares what you want Revan to be. Canonically, Revan is a male, the end.

Revan wasn't like other Sith.

Wtf does this even mean?

Hell yeah she is!!! The Exile's potential is nearly limitless. That's why you could grow to lvl 70 in the game.

Gameplay mechanics aren't canon. You lose. The Exile is an average Jedi.

I'm talking about after she lost her memories. Including those of lightsaber styles.

Yet HE regained all of his memories.

Bane's a beast in combat with huge offensive and defencive capabilities and although Sidious is great too he would (just) lose. [/B]

Yet again, nobody cares about your opinion. If it is contradictory of the facts, then you are wrong. Sidious is superior to Bane in both force and saber abilities, so BANE would lose.

Revan is male.(I like popping dreams btw) This is canon so we refer to him as such. WTF do you mean Revan wasn't like other sith? Revan did fall for what seems to be a noble reason but then again so have others.

Ulic fell to try and conquer the Krath from the inside. Anakin fell to try and protect the one he loved and the same pretty much goes for Jacen. Luke fell in DE to try and destroy Sidious from inside his empire. But what all these characters have in common is that there goals become corrupt and they have fallen completely to the darkside. Read what is in Revan's holcoron. His words are that only which a true sith can speak. I don't care for Kreia's belief is because when was the last time she even saw Revan?

And btw there are quotes from canon sources that state Sidious is the most powerful sith lord in history.

Bane takes this easily. He is the Sith chosen one.

Just joking. Sidious takes this hands down.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus

Believe what you want but can everyone just please stop calling me that. It's probably really insulting.

Not an insult when its a fact

Originally posted by Darth Exodus

Revan can be, and for me always will be, a girl if I want her to be. Stop popping my dreams.
Then your an idiot who shouldn't debate if you dont care for cannon

Originally posted by Darth Exodus

Unlikely, but possible. And we know next to nothing about the TEN years of Zannah training. Alot can happen in ten years.
That we will leave it as it is since we don't know.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus

Revan wasn't like other Sith.
And?

Originally posted by Darth Exodus

Hell yeah she is!!! The Exile's potential is nearly limitless. That's why you could grow to lvl 70 in the game.
Gameplay mechanics are not canon friend, Hell vader in EAW can destroy tanks larger than an ATAT in 5 seconds as well as destroy jabba's entire palace effortlessly

Originally posted by Darth Exodus

Bane doesn't just rely on saber sequences. He got thrown off in that battle in the temple because he had never fought anyone with dual saber's.
Thats because hes using a different saber sequence dumbass which bane didn't memorise.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus

Yoda didn't have a lightsaber (lost it in ROTS)so he couldn't have taught him anything (as we can see from Luke's wild fighting style) and he was only with Kenobi for 2 days or so.
Don't necessarily need a saber to train another, a stick will do. Which is more important? The steps or the lightsaber itself?

Originally posted by Darth Exodus

I'm talking about after she lost her memories. Including those of lightsaber styles.
Doesn't mean he is not using a lightsaber form or he wouldn't even be able to contend with malak at all, your an idiot beyond belief.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus

Bane's a beast in combat with huge offensive and defencive capabilities and although Sidious is great too he would (just) lose.
Sidious would lose when he uses a form unknown to bane when it does not follow steps he remembers? Your more stupid than i thought.

through her actions at Malachor V, she has become a wound in the force, carrying the deaths of all who died in the battle within her, and that by feeding on death and leeching life energy of her companions was how she re-gained her connection to the force. According to the Masters, she was a threat to all living beings, and possibly the Force itself, and in time she would possess the same magnitude of power like Darth Nihilus and ultimately consume the galaxy - Wookiepedia

Didn't you pay attention during the game. The Exile leeches power from her dead opponents and therefore has almost limitless potential. In time the Exile could be the greatest being ever in the history of Star wars and kick everyones butt. And remember, her story is not yet finished.

Then your an idiot who shouldn't debate if you dont care for cannon

I have nothing against cannon and my words earlier were said in haste.

Gameplay mechanics aren't canon. You lose. The Exile is an average Jedi.

😆 😆 😆 How many avarage jedi do you know of who took on a whole temple of Sith, one unstoppable Sith lord and another Sith lord right after taking down a planet destroying monster. But we're not here to discuss the Exile so back on topic.

Sidious would lose when he uses a form unknown to bane when it does not follow steps he remembers? Your more stupid than i thought.

Please, lets not get personal here. I'm just saying that the Forms aren't all important. That odd red Twilek from RO2 pretty much beat a Jedi without the forms.

The only weak spot on Bane is his head. Any wounds to his hands grow back in about 2 seconds. He could probably grow his whole hand back in a min.

Thats because hes using a different saber sequence dumbass which bane didn't memorise

Just found this.

During training Kas'im had always derided fighting with two lightsabers, ensuring Bane had no experience facing such an opponent. Where Bane had been sure of victory only just moments before, his inexperience put him at a severe disadvantage, and he quickly lost his momentum.

HA.

Also we know next to nothing about Bane saber Form in RO2. Mabye HE made Sisious' Saber form like he (seemed to) Made up Zannah's.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Didn't you pay attention during the game. The Exile leeches power from her dead opponents and therefore has almost limitless potential. In time the Exile could be the greatest being ever in the history of Star wars and kick everyones butt. And remember, her story is not yet finished.

Didn't YOU pay attention to the game? Gameplay mechanics aren't canon. Not to mention, the Exile is referred to as "average". Try again.

I have nothing against cannon and my words earlier were said in haste.

You clearly do since you make a conscious effort to argue against it.

😆 😆 😆 How many avarage jedi do you know of who took on a whole temple of Sith, one unstoppable Sith lord and another Sith lord right after taking down a planet destroying monster. But we're not here to discuss the Exile so back on topic.

And yet again, it's gameplay mechanics which have no bearing on reality.

The only weak spot on Bane is his head. Any wounds to his hands grow back in about 2 seconds. He could probably grow his whole hand back in a min. [/B]

Irrelevant. Yoda can move with speed Bane hasn't seen before.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Just found this.

Oh really? I guess you forgot the part where the book itself states that bane had no defence against jar kai because he never memorised its sequence.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Also we know next to nothing about Bane saber Form in RO2. Mabye HE made Sisious' Saber form like he (seemed to) Made up Zannah's.

We do know that he attacks like a wild animal and uses his physical strength in a duel. He likes to use his orbalisks as a weapon and hit his opponent with them and he even charged head on at the jedi without his saber being activated. So what is to stop Sidious from using lightning on a someone who is charging him with no actual weapon out. And for the record Sidious is not capable of using Bane's saber style because he incorporates the orbalisks into it. He did not really make up Zannah's style he taught her how to use a saber sure but how does that equate to making a saber style which sounds a lot like Soresu.

Bane is a Djem So user. We know that.

This 'made up his own style' nonsense has to stop for every third Sith who happens to be good with a saber

Didn't YOU pay attention to the game? Gameplay mechanics aren't canon. Not to mention, the Exile is referred to as "average". Try again.

Read the quote, loser. The Exile is far from average. Where does it refer to her as average, anyway? In your head, perhaps?

You clearly do since you make a conscious effort to argue against it.

I have tyo argue against it because thats all you ever talk about. This is a discussion forum, as in you know, arguing. What else am I supposed to do.

And yet again, it's gameplay mechanics which have no bearing on reality. [/qoute]

Its not gameplay mechanics, you idiot. Its called THE STORYLINE. As in, what happens in the game.

[quote]We do know that he attacks like a wild animal and uses his physical strength in a duel.He likes to use his orbalisks as a weapon and hit his opponent with them and he even charged head on at the jedi without his saber being activated. So what is to stop Sidious from using lightning on a someone who is charging him with no actual weapon out.

I doubt that Bane (twisted genius that he is) would be stupid enough to try that against someone of Sidious' calibre. And Sidious' own style is
agressive as we can see in ROTS against Mace's companions.

Irrelevant. Yoda can move with speed Bane hasn't seen before.

Bull. Bane is one Fast devil. He creamed Zannah in their fight and she's a fast dualist. He took on 3 Jedi at once and won. He killed 8 Umbaran Shadow Assassins pretty darn quick. Yoda doesn't move that fast.

Bane is a Djem So user. We know that.

Not really. He changes his style because of the orbalisks.

Irrelevant. Yoda can move with speed Bane hasn't seen before

Hang on. Why are we talking about Yoda?

I doubt that Bane (twisted genius that he is) would be stupid enough to try that against someone of Sidious' calibre. And Sidious' own style is
agressive as we can see in ROTS against Mace's companions.


For what I hope is the last time: This is DE Palpatine. Some who moves with absolutely blinding speed and has mastered every form and style.


Bull. Bane is one Fast devil. He creamed Zannah in their fight and she's a fast dualist. He took on 3 Jedi at once and won. He killed 8 Umbaran Shadow Assassins pretty darn quick. Yoda doesn't move that fast.

Prove he's fast as DE Palpatine or concede the point.

Yoda, by the way, also took on 3 Jedi masters at once, including Depa billaba at once and won, dodging them all without even drawing his saber. And turned an army of battle droids to scrap with his lightsaber. He DOES move that fast.


Not really. He changes his style because of the orbalisks. [/B]

Force lightning and Bane is dead.
Bane's head. Wide open.

Palpatine>Bane in DE in every conceivable way