Superman vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by carver9
Don't get mad at me because you are rejecting battlezones. Rip him apart Rao.

Carver owning Quan? One of the best times here on KMC 😂

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Quan has a very well documented history when he punks out

On top onf my head

Ww vs Superman bz
Thanos vs Glads and Superman CIS off bz
Challenge offered to prove that someone owns a business
Challenge offered by philosophia
The infamous lestov challenge
Punking out to Delta

So yeah we kind of know how often quan punks out.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't get mad at me because you are rejecting battlezones. Rip him apart Rao.

He also backed out of my Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Khan challenge.

Story in Short- It started off arguing about Anakin vs Khan in the movie versus forum, he challenged me to a BZ, but he wasn't accepting the animated movie and series which has recently been declared officially canon to the live action movies by Lucasfilm.
So I said sure just swap it for Obi-Wan then so you can't Troll me on feats (Kenobi tends to have more/better Live Action feats than Anakin, even though Anakin is clearly >/= to Kenobi).

He accepted for a couple of hours then quickly backed down.

So by all means add that to the list of BZ's Quan has backed out of.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Yeah, is kind of hard to believe when he tries to portray himself really manly, but I guess he is just trying to overcome deficits.

I remember when he was using his desperate ethnic slurs he was telling me that I cut grass for 2 dollars an hour, then I mention to him that I actually own a surveillance business that services around 100 stores in my area.

Hr called me a liar and that I was making things up. So I offer him temporary access to one of the stores I service with the condition that if I prove him wrong he will have to put under his sig that he was my b1tch and that I was much better man than he was.

As you can expect, he punk out.

Don't believe me? Watch this....

HEY QUAN! Ready to take the business challenge?

I will give you temporary access to one of the stores I service , but if I prove youwrong you have to post on your profile that you are my b1tch and that I am better man than you.

If I am lying and you don't get access I will wear a badge of shame for a month

Ready to take the challenge or are you punking out again?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Nope Iam not you mr NOT putting my money where my mouth is.

And feelings is all you have woman.

FEAR ME.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Sissy

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
He also backed out of my Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Khan challenge.

Story in Short- It started off arguing about Anakin vs Khan in the movie versus forum, he challenged me to a BZ, but he wasn't accepting the animated movie and series which has recently been declared officially canon to the live action movies by Lucasfilm.
So I said sure just swap it for Obi-Wan then so you can't Troll me on feats (Kenobi tends to have more/better Live Action feats than Anakin, even though Anakin is clearly >/= to Kenobi).

He accepted for a couple of hours then quickly backed down.

So by all means add that to the list of BZ's Quan has backed out of.

You already agreed and backed out the day of because you knew Vader wasn't going to win. I made the stips quite clear a year before the battlezone was set to start and you agreed. You are very emotional as well. Unlike you and Rao I don't set out for battlezones against specific people it is a matchup I want to do regardless. You accepted and then backed out. Battlezones aren't about screaming about random challenges and being unable to modify the stips to something the posters both agree to.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't get mad at me because you are rejecting battlezones. Rip him apart Rao.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is blatantly incorrect. You agreed to my battlezone stips and the day of backed out and cried for Obi when the battlezone I wanted was Khan vs. Vader.

You already agreed and backed out the day of because you knew Vader wasn't going to win. I made the stips quite clear a year before the battlezone was set to start and you agreed. You are very emotional as well. Unlike you and Rao I don't set out for battlezones against specific people it is a matchup I want to do regardless. You accepted and then backed out. Battlezones aren't about screaming about random challenges and being unable to modify the stips to something the posters both agree to.

Urm no, everything I said there was 100 % truth and exactly how it happened.

And there's plenty of witnesses to that from the Movie Versus forum.

This is another desperate attempt from you to try and save face. But by the looks of things, you have a history of backing down from BZ's 😂

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Urm no, everything I said there was 100 % truth and exactly how it happened.

And there's plenty of witnesses to that from the Movie Versus forum.

This is another desperate attempt from you to try and save face. But by the looks of things, you have a history of backing down from BZ's 😂

I have done more than any kmcer to this day. Glory be Quan's name.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I haven't backed out of any I have agreed to yet. I had the Khan vs. Vader battlezone. Maybe I will go post the link where you agree over a year ago and then back out the day of.

I have done more than any kmcer to this day. Glory be Quan's name.

😆

You're the biggest Troll on KMC.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
😆

You're the biggest Troll on KMC.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't get mad at me because you are rejecting battlezones. Rip him apart Rao.

True 👆

Originally posted by quanchi112
You get so emotional sometimes. Quit bringing in the movie versus antics into the comic versus. You get so upset.

So you punk out once more?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have done more battlezones than you. Have you done any ? You take this too personally whereas I am the King of Objectivity.

objective:
adjective

1. (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You shouldn't degrade yourself in such a public manner.

Someone call you a sissy and the best response you have is the equivalent of this?

I thought it incredible that this much infighting was allowed till I went searching for a quote Pr made about how he thinks comics should reflect "real life".

I've discovered his last post was made August 19th.

So apparently he is on vacation.

At least I hope that's the case; I hate to think of any of the alternatives that might keep such a regular poster away from this site.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I thought it incredible that this much infighting was allowed till I went searching for a quote Pr made about how he thinks comics should reflect "real life".

I've discovered his last post was made August 19th.

So apparently he is on vacation.

At least I hope that's the case; I hate to think of any of the alternatives that might keep such a regular poster away from this site.

I BANISHED PR FROM THE HOUSE OF EL!!!

His offenses had become too many!

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am never angry at you I simply pity you for your inability to understand your own arguments. Your arguments blow up all the time on you which is quite sad.

Dude, stop this nonsense of attacking Carver.

Carver, stop attacking Quan (there are enough people doing it already).

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
True 👆

So you punk out once more?

objective:
adjective

1. (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

Someone call you a sissy and the best response you have is the equivalent of this?

I am as objective as they come.

It is the truth.

People often claim "facts" that are erroneous or misleading because they give general maxims as absolutes.

Case in point is the following:

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
A teenage girl physically on par with a woman. But a woman is not on par with a man.

It's obvious how the above is related to this thread.

General maxim: Man is stronger than woman.
Superman is a man. Wonder Woman is a woman.

Therefore it "MUST" follow: Superman is stronger than Wonder Woman.

There's also the general maxim: Man is stronger than girl.
Superman is a man. Supergirl is a girl.

Therefore it "MUST" follow: Superman is stronger than Supergirl.

And people then, presumably in love with "real life" principles, often try to use "real science" to "justify" why this "is" and "SHOULD" be so.

"It's only logical" ... ?

----

Well, it's not.

All men are NOT stronger than all women.
It is not even true that all men are stronger than all girls.
Sometimes it is not even true that strong, fit, and bigger men experienced with fighting are stronger than all girls.

In the comics Jeph Loeb posited this was not true for Superman and Supergirl.
In point of fact Loeb posited Kara was actually stronger than Clark.

To me, both in comic book terms, AND in "real life" terms this makes complete sense, at least from the 2003 to 2008 pre-"World of New Krypton" series, and above all before the Sterling Gates era.

In other words, it makes sense for the time period of Greg Rucka's "Sacrifice" arc, which was put smack in the middle of that 2003 to 2008 period.

But people need to be actually SHOWN this stuff. Merely telling them won't do it.
So, you especially, Delta, see what you think of the following.

You should have little trouble understanding the point of the illustration with all the noise you've made about what would happen if "real life" principles are to be considered when examining these works:

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Originally posted by bluewaterrider

(from the Superman versus Darkseid DCnU thread, which you can go to by clicking here:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=600703&pagenumber=5)

You one of the people on that escalator?

What do you leg press anyway? About 320?

Originally posted by Delta1938

Should I be less subtle?

Definitely more than that, but since Quanny punked-out and is trying to turn his cowardice into a win by calling me gay, I'm trying not to fuel the fire and give him more to distort.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider

mmm

You're avoiding me for fear of Quanchi?

After all that talk about courage?

Dude, this is not a setup.

Not on that account anyway. I'm not partners with Quan or anyone else.

Here, if you don't want to give a specific number, let's compromise.

But be honest:

Muster up the courage to at least answer whether its above or below 900 pounds?

Originally posted by Delta1938

Not fear of Quan. His damage control over punking out can cause warnings or worse from the mods if I continue. That's what I'm avoiding. Had he accepted, we could've worked out the details in PM.

I never accused you of a set-up or working with Quanny or anything. Doesn't change the fact that regardless of your motivations, he won't take it to do more of his damage control.

And [b]under[/b].

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apzAUaeLQF8
(Fourteen year old girl leg presses 1034 pounds.
Clip is 1 minute in length.)

fourteenyears

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
He also backed out of my Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Khan challenge.

Story in Short- It started off arguing about Anakin vs Khan in the movie versus forum, he challenged me to a BZ, but he wasn't accepting the animated movie and series which has recently been declared officially canon to the live action movies by Lucasfilm.
So I said sure just swap it for Obi-Wan then so you can't Troll me on feats (Kenobi tends to have more/better Live Action feats than Anakin, even though Anakin is clearly >/= to Kenobi).

He accepted for a couple of hours then quickly backed down.

So by all means add that to the list of BZ's Quan has backed out of.

Terrible. Just outright terrible. Thanks for the updates you all. I thought Quan was the aggressor concerning battlezones. Guess I was misinformed.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
People often claim "facts" that are erroneous or misleading because they give general maxims as absolutes.

Case in point is the following:

It's obvious how the above is related to this thread.

General maxim: Man is stronger than woman.
Superman is a man. Wonder Woman is a woman.

Therefore it "MUST" follow: Superman is stronger than Wonder Woman.

There's also the general maxim: Man is stronger than girl.
Superman is a man. Supergirl is a girl.

Therefore it "MUST" follow: Superman is stronger than Supergirl.

And people then, presumably in love with "real life" principles, often try to use "real science" to "justify" why this "is" and "SHOULD" be so.

"It's only logical" ... ?

----

Well, it's not.

All men are NOT stronger than all women.
It is not even true that all men are stronger than all girls.
Sometimes it is not even true that [b]strong, fit, and bigger men experienced with fighting are stronger than all girls.

In the comics Jeph Loeb posited this was not true for Superman and Supergirl.
In point of fact Loeb posited Kara was actually stronger than Clark.

To me, both in comic book terms, AND in "real life" terms this makes complete sense, at least from the 2003 to 2008 pre-"World of New Krypton" series, and above all before the Sterling Gates era.

In other words, it makes sense for the time period of Greg Rucka's "Sacrifice" arc, which was put smack in the middle of that 2003 to 2008 period.

But people need to be actually SHOWN this stuff. Merely telling them won't do it.
So, you especially, Delta, see what you think of the following.

You should have little trouble understanding the point of the illustration with all the noise you've made about what would happen if "real life" principles are to be considered when examining these works:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apzAUaeLQF8
(Fourteen year old girl leg presses 1034 pounds.
Clip is 1 minute in length.)

fourteenyears [/B]

You are talking about an exception and not the general rule.

I leg pressed almost 800 lbs when I was 14 I didn't press more because We could not find more people and it was not in a high tech gym but a rather rudimentary one (no poleys)

if you want to go that route why not compare the strongest man in the world vs the strongest woman in the world vs the strongest girl in the world and see who is stronger

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never agreed to yout stipulations but was more than ready to do one more battlezone repping Thanos against Superman but you scurried away.

I am as objective as they come.

It is the truth.

You were saying over and over again that Thonos win a cis less match vs Superman and Gladiator, I challenge you to back up your trolling claims and you just lower you eyes in sign of submission while trying to make things up onto why you punk out.

Originally posted by carver9
Terrible. Just outright terrible. Thanks for the updates you all. I thought Quan was the aggressor concerning battlezones. Guess I was misinformed.

Yep quite sad, but I know he is just an act.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Nah thats not me on the pic.

But about my poor english what are you going to do about it?

Expunge my bacteria?

hahah Was that Quanny's response to the pic I posted of "You're not this gay but dammit if you're not trying?" That damage control is bad even by Quanny's standards.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
People often claim "facts" that are erroneous or misleading because they give general maxims as absolutes.

Case in point is the following:

It's obvious how the above is related to this thread.

General maxim: Man is stronger than woman.
Superman is a man. Wonder Woman is a woman.

Therefore it "MUST" follow: Superman is stronger than Wonder Woman.

There's also the general maxim: Man is stronger than girl.
Superman is a man. Supergirl is a girl.

Therefore it "MUST" follow: Superman is stronger than Supergirl.

And people then, presumably in love with "real life" principles, often try to use "real science" to "justify" why this "is" and "SHOULD" be so.

"It's only logical" ... ?

----

Well, it's not.

All men are NOT stronger than all women.
It is not even true that all men are stronger than all girls.
Sometimes it is not even true that [b]strong, fit, and bigger men experienced with fighting are stronger than all girls.

In the comics Jeph Loeb posited this was not true for Superman and Supergirl.
In point of fact Loeb posited Kara was actually stronger than Clark.

To me, both in comic book terms, AND in "real life" terms this makes complete sense, at least from the 2003 to 2008 pre-"World of New Krypton" series, and above all before the Sterling Gates era.

In other words, it makes sense for the time period of Greg Rucka's "Sacrifice" arc, which was put smack in the middle of that 2003 to 2008 period.

But people need to be actually SHOWN this stuff. Merely telling them won't do it.
So, you especially, Delta, see what you think of the following.

You should have little trouble understanding the point of the illustration with all the noise you've made about what would happen if "real life" principles are to be considered when examining these works:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apzAUaeLQF8
(Fourteen year old girl leg presses 1034 pounds.
Clip is 1 minute in length.)

fourteenyears [/B]

I don't go by the Superman is stronger than Wonder Woman because he's a man, due to their different origins and power sources. I go by Superman is stronger because of his feats and showings, including blatantly overpowering Wonder Woman.

But that logic applies to Superman/Supergirl. Supergirl being stronger than Superman is only going if, you know, you ignored the actual end of the storyline and we find-out Kara simply doesn't have Kal's restraint. Superman's got a lot of showings before and after that simply prove he's stronger. Your ignorance doesn't mean valid evidence doesn't exist, and you've been shown. He's caught her punch and sent her flying back, overpowered Ursa(who overwhelmed Kara) and Non AT ONCE, amongst numerous other examples. Your desire to put women ahead of men for whatever reason doesn't mean that you're correct.

Of course there's exceptions, but you're not really aware of context for her and others.

Also Blue, do you acknowledge you argued the Doomsday technique scans out of context?