Originally posted by RaoulPretty good points there. Supes wasnt holding back. WW was holding back. Supes was amped while WW wasnt.
and that is where the problem lies with us agreeing lol...😐
somewhere a small infant is crying, it can feel the tremors in the force caused by my anguish... 🙁
Just because Superman didnt dominate her you cant say he was fighting like an idiot when in this story he beat the jla using his head.
Originally posted by h1a8
Look here:
The freezing breath slows her down.
For some strange reason not only did Superman stop freezing her but he
could have blasted a hv beam through her neck in the process of after.This tactic shows how Superman can win easily.
of course she is trying to not hurt him and didn't cross her bracelets, which would have made the breath null. You do know she has one of the strongest force fields in comics right?
Originally posted by fangirl101
of course she is trying to not hurt him and didn't cross her bracelets, which would have made the breath null. You do know she has one of the strongest force fields in comics right?
I forgot about that.
Thanks for reminding me.
I never seen her cross her bracelets though I heard my many people that she can do it. If that's the case then would this be at least a stalemate for her since Superman won't be able to penetrate the field?
Originally posted by h1a8
I forgot about that.
Thanks for reminding me.
I never seen her cross her bracelets though I heard my many people that she can do it. If that's the case then would this be at least a stalemate for her since Superman won't be able to penetrate the field?
she crossed her bracelets twice at least that I can remember. once to block the pantheon's power. once becuz she said the field of a shot gun was too wide to protect the peopel behind her. oh 3. she crossed them to block the omegas.
Originally posted by fangirl101
she crossed her bracelets twice at least that I can remember. once to block the pantheon's power. once becuz she said the field of a shot gun was too wide to protect the peopel behind her. oh 3. she crossed them to block the omegas.
That might be WW's optimal strategy and thus this is a stalemate. Right?
Originally posted by h1a8
That might be WW's optimal strategy and thus this is a stalemate. Right?
I wouldn't say that. If she crossed her bracers for the force field and got a nice godwave amp, it would be curtains for superman. or if she pullled out that invisible orb and put on her guantlet or some other nasty magic trick.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I wouldn't say that. If she crossed her bracers for the force field and got a nice godwave amp, it would be curtains for superman. or if she pullled out that invisible orb and put on her guantlet or some other nasty magic trick.
Wow! I'm glad some here know about WW. I admit at first (when I joined here) I underrated her quite a bit. I didn't know she had FTL reflexes, was that fast, was that strong, had superior fighting style to any style on Earth, has thousands of years of experience, or had all those magical items (like tiara and god wave and stuff). I didn't know she had a HF either.
By me not knowing this basic stuff about her I've embarrassed myself quite well in the past. But now I know better.
Originally posted by h1a8
Wow! I'm glad some here know about WW. I admit at first (when I joined here) I underrated her quite a bit. I didn't know she had FTL reflexes, was that fast, was that strong, had superior fighting style to any style on Earth, has thousands of years of experience, or had all those magical items (like tiara and god wave and stuff). I didn't know she had a HF either.By me not knowing this basic stuff about her I've embarrassed myself quite well in the past. But now I know better.
well get ready for her to get amped up some more. gail simone and DC has plans for her. she's about to use her healing factor even more. she's used her lasso as a weapon. i'm sure gail will figure out more creative ways for her to use her powers.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't follow your quantifications at all. They appear to be quite arbitrary and overall pointless considering that either way, Wonder Woman hadd no such amp/enhancements. And when you add in the assistance of Waverider also? Superman was much better prepared during the fight and got his butt kicked equally as bad. The H/P Doomsday clone that Wonder Woman fought also evolved on the fly. He kept doubling and redoubling his strength and durability in that fight. If you want scans of the 'Hunter/Prey' fight, go to the Doomsday respect thread. If you want scans of the Wonder Woman fight, go to the Wonder Woman respect thread.
The fight was supposed to be from Earth to Venus. They weren't supposed to actually make it to the sun's surface. But I can't find the interview where Greg Rucka clarified that, and to be honest, the artist's depiction is very contradictory. I know most people interpret it as going to the sun and who could blame them from the art. The Sun can only look so big in the background even from the distance of Venus...
Point is H/P doomsday is clearly more powerful than WW fought simply there is no comparable in term of those two beast.Doomsday and superman withstand 1000000 nule blast and escape with little difficulty,waverider doesn't even last on H/p doomsday. Rucka mention that he and illustrator screw up big time on sacrifice story..he clearly not sunamped when fought with WW.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Pretty good points there. Supes wasnt holding back. WW was holding back. Supes was amped while WW wasnt.Just because Superman didnt dominate her you cant say he was fighting like an idiot when in this story he beat the jla using his head.
that statement alone shows a severe misinterpretation of the comic... he was clear headed when fighting the jla, he wasnt when fighting diana...
Originally posted by quanchi112
So again in your opinion since he didnt dominate he wasnt thinking clearly.
actually no, thats not what i said.
Why wasnt he clearheaded when he fought Diana?
lord had just made him watch something incredibly traumatic, and given how much lord had been messing with clark's mind over the years, there's no telling what other damage he could have done to clark's mind...
against the jla, he was in full control, fighting strategically...
Originally posted by h1a8
Are you guys crazy or just sexist. Fangirl just proved that WW can't lose if she crosses her bracelets and prays for the Godwave. How is Superman going to get past that?
And how many times has Wonder Woman used this tactic, exactly?
I can count dozens - hundreds, even - of times that Superman has overwhelmed a powerful opponent by using whatever advantage he had at his disposal - be it speed, ranged attacks, or brute force.
How many times has Wonder Woman met a powerful foe and....
Crossed her bracelets and prayed for the Godwave? It's not in character in the least.
Originally posted by Soljer
And how many times has Wonder Woman used this tactic, exactly?I can count dozens - hundreds, even - of times that Superman has overwhelmed a powerful opponent by using whatever advantage he had at his disposal - be it speed, ranged attacks, or brute force.
How many times has Wonder Woman met a powerful foe and....
Crossed her bracelets and prayed for the Godwave? It's not in character in the [b]least
. [/B]
It only takes someone to perform a feat only once to prove that it is in their character to do it (unless they were mind controlled). In this forum we try to find out who will win based off power the characters using their power set to the best of their abilities with optimal strategy. Otherwise this is just Mickey Mouse stuff.
Originally posted by Soljer
And how many times has Wonder Woman used this tactic, exactly?I can count dozens - hundreds, even - of times that Superman has overwhelmed a powerful opponent by using whatever advantage he had at his disposal - be it speed, ranged attacks, or brute force.
How many times has Wonder Woman met a powerful foe and....
Crossed her bracelets and prayed for the Godwave? It's not in character in the [b]least
. [/B]
Superman isn't even powerful enough for her to warrant the Godwave. She's battled people in his range dozens of times.
Originally posted by RaoulSo he was under duress and had nothing holding him back. I hear oh well he was holding back all the time or that he didnt sppedblitz. You have your opinion and I have mine. I have seen other characters fight under duress and not seen the excuses made for these characters. Face it he wanted to kill her but she prevented it while keeping his safety in mind.
actually no, thats not what i said.lord had just made him watch something incredibly traumatic, and given how much lord had been messing with clark's mind over the years, there's no telling what other damage he could have done to clark's mind...
against the jla, he was in full control, fighting strategically...