Originally posted by Raoul
while its true he has no defence against magic, it's not quite the crutch its made out to be.he's fought captain marvel, arion, black adam and diana, and done very well.
in the jla/avengers crossover, which is supposed to be canon, he beat thor, even stopping the hammer at one point...
We can add:
Blaze, Satannus, Dominus, Disciple, Asmodel, Arion, Adversary, Eclipso, Neron, etc. 😉
Originally posted by fangirl101
Avalon. You do understand time lines right? I'm sure you do. Zoom was punching Wondy BEFORE the sacrifice arc. Superman was Sun amped thus making his punch far superior to Zooms. The rest of your post isn't worth my time. It's pretty obvious Superman was thinking tactically. It's also obvious that Batman survived attacks from Amazo who is Superior to Superman. And He was in his regular Suit. You reaching is so funny to me. Reach on.
Strange and faulty thinking that follows only your line of warped thought. You are welcome to ignore the rest of my post. It's easy to see that you ignore what proves you wrong.
Check and mate. Thanks for playing.
Originally posted by Enyalus
In Superman/Batman Bruce actually takes several punches from Darkseid. He has a motherbox on him to heal the wounds afterwards, but I don't think it had anything to do with him surviving initially.
Batman says right on the panel that the Motherbox is protecting him from Darkseid's hits.
The sacrafice fight clearly has circumstances of CIS going for supes that isn't a accurate portrayal of how he would fight under normal circumstances. NvR can try as he might, but building a argument around faulty logic and painfully obvious bias is no way to win a fight...supes handily takes the overwhealming majority.
Originally posted by Raoul
not as much as ww fans would like to think so...
If she has her weapons, it certainly would. In a normal fight, not so much.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman should still win the majority of fights here,but might lose a few to her skill.
Agreed. (I'm assuming no bloodlust here? Standard equip and no dip for Supes?)
Originally posted by The Great Galen
The sacrafice fight clearly has circumstances of CIS going for supes that isn't a accurate portrayal of how he would fight under normal circumstances. NvR can try as he might, but building a argument around faulty logic and painfully obvious bias is no way to win a fight...supes handily takes the overwhealming majority.
I'm tired of talking about the Sacrifice arc. They were both fighting under disadvantages. If WW had gotten a win over Clark in that fight, I would agree that you couldn't hold too much merit in it because he thought he was fighting someone else and would have fought her differently.
On the flip side, it's still not a bad showing for Diana. If Clark knew he was fighting Diana his punches wouldn't magically be harder nor would his durability suddenly increase. They beat each other up pretty badly. That's exactly what would have happened anyway.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
I'm tired of talking about the Sacrifice arc. They were both fighting under disadvantages. If WW had gotten a win over Clark in that fight, I would agree that you couldn't hold too much merit in it because he thought he was fighting someone else and would have fought her differently.On the flip side, it's still not a bad showing for Diana. If Clark knew he was fighting Diana his punches wouldn't magically be harder nor would his durability suddenly increase. They beat each other up pretty badly. That's exactly what would have happened anyway.
Supes was fighting illusions and clearly wasn't in his right mind...whenever you have"mind control"it always compromises the situation. Supes has alreayd dominated opponents far beyond WW's scope in power...obviosuly the only way she was a contender was because of"insert plot device"here. In a forum battle that excludes PIS/CIS It's a differten story.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Supes was fighting illusions and clearly wasn't in his right mind...whenever you have"mind control"it always compromises the situation.
That's a Supes fanboy copout. When he fights Batman without knowing it, J'onn notes specifically that he made a lot of tactically good decisions and that level of control isn't typically shown by someone who is being mind-controlled. So why wouldn't the same hold true when he was fighting Diana?
That's a rhetorical question, btw.
Originally posted by Enyalus
That's a Supes fanboy copout. When he fights Batman without knowing it, J'onn notes specifically that he made a lot of tactically good decisions and that level of control isn't typically shown by someone who is being mind-controlled. So why wouldn't the same hold true when he was fighting Diana?That's a rhetorical question, btw.
Ye right 😉 Actually when fighting Batman who do you think that supes actually fight his mind at that time.?