Originally posted by snoopdogg
I might as well ask you also. Is Captain American superhuman?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Captain America is low level superhuman in strength - He has been described numerous times on panel as superhuman AND (unlike Beast) has strength feats that back those statements.
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Marvel assumes you are reading the comic books, they want you to read the Handbooks BUT they aren't going to publish something in their that you need to read to understand what is happening in the actual comic books. If you can't read an issue of x-men and come to the conclusion that Beast has class 10 strength without having been previously influence then what was written in a hand book... then the hand book isn't accurate.
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Keep in mind - as a Canadian - I find Captain America about as appealing a power tool boring into my brain... but that doesn't change the fact that in spite of being an X-Men fanatic who has read virtually every issue with a even a slight connection to the team (that's a lot of Beast experience), Captain America has more impressive feats of strength.
I mean: what sort of conclusion should I draw form the fact that I have much more experience with the Beast... yet Captain America has consistently shown himself to be stronger?
Originally posted by snoopdogg
The handbook writers must have saw something. That's wierd.
I imagine a strength upgrade was originally part of the "Beast turns feral and more cat like in appearance" pitch... but no one ever actual solidified it in the actual comics. Some editor likely has it in writing on his desk, but it never made into the comics. /shrug
I never thought most "peak humans" in DC and Marvel could really be peak human. They're just as "peak" as someone can get with training. Captain America should be the only real peak human because of the Super Soldier Serum. And if you can become a real peak human by exercising then there's no big deal about the serum anyways. IMO Captain America should have "Conan the Barbarian" stats, like strangling a prehistoric gorilla-man and throwing stuff so heavy that legendary strongmen can barely lift it, or killing a guy with one punch. Very nearly superhuman. While Batman, Daredevil and other guys who got into shape by lifting weights should just be superior to Olympic athletes, but never genuinely Captain America level. "Peak human" should mean something, and not every comic book character who works out a lot should be considerable peak human.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Keep in mind - as a Canadian - I find Captain America about as appealing a power tool boring into my brain...
Im from the UK. 🙄
Originally posted by snoopdogg
For sh!ts and giggles here's Beasts bio:I'd scans Cap's but it's too big to get a good scan in my scanner.
Well thats great according to that bio Cap is faster than Beat. Cap can run at 60 mph, Beast can run at 40mph, cant be bothered to analyse the rest Beast loses.
Hell its says he has the agility of an ape. What that peak human? Hes also compared to a circus performer, no evidence from his bio proves that he has superhuman agility.
Originally posted by Juk3n
I can see your point, and you make a good good thorough point.
It's just in this case, the difference is about 20x the pressing strength -
I'm not arguing strength, I know beast is stronger, its speed and reflexes that matter, beast could end or severely hinder caps chances of a win, as could cap end beast's chances of a win with a pressure point. Who's gonna get the first attack is what matters.
Originally posted by Juk3n
if this is Current beast, How much STRONGER does someone have to be to stand a chance against Caps Skill?
Again, strength is not a major issue here.
Originally posted by Juk3n
This is peak human Martial artist vs Class 20 Wild animal...
Class 20 is very debatable, and beast is far from a wild animal, this ain't sabretooth.
Originally posted by Juk3n
WITH Training FROM the Martial artist and other sources,
His training in martial arts doesn't even scratch the surface of what cap is capable of.
Seriously. 😐
Originally posted by Juk3n
WITH genius level Interlect
Beast is a genius, just not in tactics. Both men are genius in their own fields, but its caps genius level intellect that will matter more in this fight.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneRead it again. It says he has superhuman agility, speed, & endurance.
Im from the UK. 🙄Well thats great according to that bio Cap is faster than Beat. Cap can run at 60 mph, Beast can run at 40mph, cant be bothered to analyse the rest Beast loses.
Hell its says he has the agility of an ape. What that peak human? Hes also compared to a circus performer, no evidence from his bio proves that he has superhuman agility.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Read it again. It says he has superhuman agility, speed, & endurance.
Yeah well like ive been saying peak human and superhuman can mean the same thing the term is often abused when dealing with street level characters. He has superhuman speed but his top speed is 40 mph, thats peak human. But quite frankly peak human, enhanced and superhuman can all be samething when dealing with bios.