I think Thor is being written really well in his series.
Juggernaut is a good character when he finally got the much needed screen time he had been lacking before.
And I like Superman only when he is SUPERMAN.
Not the chump who gets auto wins or when people try to make him far more complex then what he is.
Originally posted by grey fox
Apoc as the Third Summers brother would have been kickass.
r u srs?
All the pot in the world would be required for someone to understand that shit. Go and read the whole thing. Its ridiculous.
Emma Frost: To quote ExodusCloak "A character with such flare and personality, such wit and finesse. A character who has many faces, the callous White Queen as a opposed to the caring teacher.
She's not overpowered so if you're looking for flashy feats I suggest looking elsewhere, however she is still extremely gifted, creative and skilled when it comes to her powers. An extremely diverse and deep characterisation allows her to stand out from the rest of the crowd. On first-impression she comes across as this flawless being but dig deeper and you'll find one of the most screwed up souls to ever grace the corners of an X-Men comic. When it comes down to it her ethos is far more practical then Xavier's Dream or Magnetos Realistic approach to mutant/human coexistence. Her morals or lack of them allows her to take Xavier's dream to the next level...this balanced by her boyfriend Scott Summers good nature allows for an efficient, realistic and practical approach to the running of the Xavier Institute."
She also has the self-proclaimed "best body money can buy."
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
r u srs?All the pot in the world would be required for someone to understand that shit. Go and read the whole thing. Its ridiculous.
I DID read it. Incredibly retarded Nineties Cable and his time-travel plothole-along would of been stupid. The core IDEA though was Gold (Again, like Xorn).
Re: What makes a character a good character?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The title pretty much says it all. (Apologies, Digi, if this is a repeat thread.)What, to you, makes a character good? What makes you a fan of particular characters? If you have any example characters then that would be good too.
Is it their origins? Is it their tragedies? Is it that they're easy to relate to? Their character design even? Or is it simply that they beat this person or did that thing? (A lot of the time to the outside observer this last reason does seem like the reason some characters garner fans.)
On the flip side, what do you think makes for a bad character?
a face like a prune.blue and gold outfit with pointy shoulder pads 🙂
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Emma Frost: To quote ExodusCloak "A character with such flare and personality, such wit and finesse. A character who has many faces, the callous White Queen as a opposed to the caring teacher.She's not overpowered so if you're looking for flashy feats I suggest looking elsewhere, however she is still extremely gifted, creative and skilled when it comes to her powers. An extremely diverse and deep characterisation allows her to stand out from the rest of the crowd. On first-impression she comes across as this flawless being but dig deeper and you'll find one of the most screwed up souls to ever grace the corners of an X-Men comic. When it comes down to it her ethos is far more practical then Xavier's Dream or Magnetos Realistic approach to mutant/human coexistence. Her morals or lack of them allows her to take Xavier's dream to the next level...this balanced by her boyfriend Scott Summers good nature allows for an efficient, realistic and practical approach to the running of the Xavier Institute."
She also has the self-proclaimed "best body money can buy."
Multiple Man > Xavier > Emma.
Continuity seems to ring a bell for a lot of characters. I noticed its the characters with the short runs that are usually regarded as having the best stories. Too much focus on continuity can ruin characters but not enough can turn readers off. Wolverine, Spiderman, Superman, Batman are all victims of this. I notice I am more emotionally involved with characters that don't have a pre history and status quo.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Emma Frost: To quote ExodusCloak "A character with such flare and personality, such wit and finesse. A character who has many faces, the callous White Queen as a opposed to the caring teacher.She's not overpowered so if you're looking for flashy feats I suggest looking elsewhere, however she is still extremely gifted, creative and skilled when it comes to her powers. An extremely diverse and deep characterisation allows her to stand out from the rest of the crowd. On first-impression she comes across as this flawless being but dig deeper and you'll find one of the most screwed up souls to ever grace the corners of an X-Men comic. When it comes down to it her ethos is far more practical then Xavier's Dream or Magnetos Realistic approach to mutant/human coexistence. Her morals or lack of them allows her to take Xavier's dream to the next level...this balanced by her boyfriend Scott Summers good nature allows for an efficient, realistic and practical approach to the running of the Xavier Institute."
She also has the self-proclaimed "best body money can buy."
Wow someone actually quoted me. 😛
I think a characters ingenuity with their powers is also something that makes a character appeal to me. I also think character depth is something that is necessary for a certain bracket of character eg however I believe if applied to the wrong type of character it can actually make them worse. An example being Apocalypse, IMO they would be better off trying to make him less relatable then trying to turn him into a grey character like they did in Blood of Apocalypse. I mean a villian doesn't necessarily have to be grey to be appealing.
Characters like:
- Cassandra Nova who are constrained to black and white morals make up for that with their dialogue.
- Selene I believe has the potential to do the same in terms of dialogue because of the background that was layed out for her.
- Exodus doesn't appear much so maybe that's why he's not that annoying to me. He's a complete bigot but he expresses himself so eloquently in his dialogue, both literary tone and words.
- Mr. Sinisters appearance only needs slight modifications apart from that it seems like the look is timeless. I think what saves him is that his Marauders have done far more damage to the X-Men then most of their villians. He's also quite calculating. He wouldn't be a favourite but he's an acceptable villian.
- As for Apocalypse, what really put me off him was TAS his voice was terrible. Though it must be said that Evolution turned him into a threat. For once I actually felt as though he was a threat. And as mentioned above the best thing about Evo Apocalypse was that he only said a line or two in the whole series. His blue design was a no, no. I think he needs a new look. I liked the Pharaoh look more then most of his other looks. He also needs to become more of a threat, more calculating and use his powers in a way that isn't so mundane.
- As for Vulcan, he's a train wreck when it comes to character depth but I don't dislike the character mainly because of his character design. It's far better IMO then the other potential 3rd Summers Brothers: Adam X, Gambit and Apocalypse. He's also insane which is always a good thing. Add that to his lineage and powerset and I believe there is a good foundation layed out for a good writer to come and salvage.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
An example being Apocalypse, IMO they would be better off trying to make him less relatable then trying to turn him into a grey character like they did in Blood of Apocalypse. I mean a villian doesn't necessarily have to be grey to be appealing.
He doesn't need to be grey skinned either so he doesn't look like Darkseid with blue lips...
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
As for Apocalypse, what really put me off him was TAS his voice was terrible.
Die. 😐
His voice was damn scary (Well, at least in the first two seasons). He had some pretty good lines too...
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Though it must be said that Evolution turned him into a threat. For once I actually felt as though he was a threat.
TAS Apoc wasn't a threat?
He killed the X-Men when he got pissed. And once he got his hands on some time travel technology, he became a universal threat...
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
His blue design was a no, no.
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Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I liked the Pharaoh look more then most of his other looks.
AoA/Apoc vs. Drac look >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharaoh look uhuh
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
He also needs to become more of a threat.
You do know why Cable went back into the past, don't you?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
more calculating and use his powers in a way that isn't so mundane.
Been done on a some occasions, actually.